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#1 Gamesterpheonix
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Title. How are the bugs, how is the gameplay, how does it perform, what is currently the biggest problem with the game? The user score has been dropping for the game since launch. Currently at 7.3.

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#2 DevilMightCry
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You can read my review of it. Still the same. If you have little patience, wait a few weeks of not sure. It's still buggy.
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The gameplay is fantastic and a definite step up from other shooters.

The bugs are still there. The ones I encountered were hits not registering and my control layout randomly going back to default (very frustrating when you have an AZERTY keyboard)

Performance is great for me. I have a C2Duo and a HD4870 and I play everything on high at 1680x1050.

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#4 Croag821
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I'd wait. I'm a veteran RO1 player and I regret spending so much money on the game. It's definitely a solid game, but it's just in a bad state right now and I find myself getting frustrated playing it. I keep getting gameplay hampering bugs such as the double front iron sights, gun not shooting with first shot (this one gets me killed a lot), and the net code seems to be off. Also the entire stat/progression system is entirely jacked up to the point of no return (I was honor level 7 and randomly got upgraded to 22, I have 1600% accuracy with some guns, I have way to many kills/deaths etc.). All in all in a couple of months I'm sure the game will be awesome, but as it is now I personally find it more frustrating than fun as I always feel I'm battling bugs. I'd advise waiting for things to get fixed and the price to drop.
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#5 kris9031998
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Buggy. Once i got a single kill and got like 10 different achievements, some were like "Get 100 kills with a tank" When i have never used the tank online :?
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#6 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Still very buggy. It doesn't stop me from enjoying the game though.
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#7 lawlessx
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Still very buggy. It doesn't stop me from enjoying the game though.SF_KiLLaMaN
well some people can't even launch the game..we are the lucky ones here. I would suggest people to wait afew weeks and check the message board for patch notes
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They've been patching it massively since release, and it's quite good at the moment. My major gripes with it is the clunkiness of cover at times (not that you need to use the system) and the complete lack of team coordination options - no voice commands that I can find, and no proper order system - everything is poorly explained, so new players are oblivious to the games intricacies and many matches feel like a chaotic rabble.
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#9 jedikevin2
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Only bug i've had is fps drop to 1fps as the world re-renders after I died for some reason. Absolutely love the game. Great gameplay, getting amazing hitbox registration, tweaked the ini to my liking to get 70 fps in 32 player servers (64 has me sitting between 49-65). A solid 8.5/10.
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I heard you have to lead your targets in RO2. Sounds like bad netcode to me, last time I did that was in Halo:Combat evolved . Throw in a ballastics system and I heard its very hard to kill people. Lag compensation is not ideal but its far superior to leading your aim due to the lack of it.

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#11 MyopicCanadian
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Performance is terrible for a lot of people, myself included. I have most of the settings turned down, and I only play on SOME larger servers... depending on the server or the map, the game can get very laggy with 64 people. Aside from that, audio cuts out sometimes during a map change and I have to restart the game, and I occasionally get stuck in the map when going prone.

Gameplay itself is amazing. I'm completely addicted to this game... there's nothing else like it, and the solid map design makes for some REALLY intense battles. One of the main things that kept me away from playing RO1 that much was the abundance of tank maps and large open fields. Playing as any type of infantry was just painful.

Overall, the bugs and performance issues are only slightly hampering my experience, because I'm still having a blast and it's the main game I go to right now.

Also thought I'd mention that I'm hearing a lot of issues of laggy servers and people unable to shoot moving targets. I haven't had that much of a problem finding servers that I ping under 100 to *IN GAME*. I know that some servers will show a low ping and when you get in its 200 or so. I just avoid those servers. And I haven't had too much of an issue hitting moving targets using my Mosin-Nagant. I think as well, some people don't realize that you may actually hit the target, but hitting them on the side, it is likely that it will be a killshot. I've noticed myself trying to peg moving targets, thought I had missed, and then getting kill assists a few minutes later.

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I'd wait. I'm a veteran RO1 player and I regret spending so much money on the game. It's definitely a solid game, but it's just in a bad state right now and I find myself getting frustrated playing it. I keep getting gameplay hampering bugs such as the double front iron sights, gun not shooting with first shot (this one gets me killed a lot), and the net code seems to be off. Also the entire stat/progression system is entirely jacked up to the point of no return (I was honor level 7 and randomly got upgraded to 22, I have 1600% accuracy with some guns, I have way to many kills/deaths etc.). All in all in a couple of months I'm sure the game will be awesome, but as it is now I personally find it more frustrating than fun as I always feel I'm battling bugs. I'd advise waiting for things to get fixed and the price to drop.Croag821

So much money on it? You coulda got it for $28 at GMG, the game is amazing. Yea theres a few bugs, but nothing major. In 2 months this will be the multiplayer game to play. There will be free dlc and patches for a long time.

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#13 Sharpie125
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I heard you have to lead your targets in RO2. Sounds like bad netcode to me, last time I did that was in Halo:Combat evolved . Throw in a ballastics system and I heard its very hard to kill people. Lag compensation is not ideal but its far superior to leading your aim due to the lack of it.

bonafidetk

Don't get me wrong, I find it very hard to hit anybody that's not running in a straight line away or towards me, but it shouldn't be a walk in the park to hit a moving target. I find myself more on the receiving end of this, running to the battlefield and getting rifled a couple hundred metres away.

What's broken is achievements and stats, and some minor gameplay bugs (the only one I've noticed is getting stuck on the map's geometry/actually falling into the map and dying). As for stability, I think other people have it worse off than myself. I'm running on a 3 year old computer with fairly mid-range hardware on high and no AA and have experienced no crashes to desktop or BSODs like other people. I'm still on XP, however.

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#14 Croag821
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So much money on it? You coulda got it for $28 at GMG, the game is amazing. Yea theres a few bugs, but nothing major. In 2 months this will be the multiplayer game to play. There will be free dlc and patches for a long time.

Cloud567kar

Well sorry I guess I'm not rich, I consider a $30 game investment quite a bit of money.

Like I said I think its a solid game, but saying thiers just a few bugs and it's nothing major is an understatement. Their are 100s of bugs, many of which where brought up in beta and never fixed, and some people can't even play because of crashes.

Like you said I'm sure in 2 months the game will be in a better condition and much more playable but why wouldn't the OP just wait till then and spend even less money on it?

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I am personally waiting until there is a sale. I'm certain the game is great and all, but I'll wait until it's properly fixed before jumping in. And, BF3 is launching in five weeks anyways.

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[QUOTE="Croag821"]I'd wait. I'm a veteran RO1 player and I regret spending so much money on the game. It's definitely a solid game, but it's just in a bad state right now and I find myself getting frustrated playing it. I keep getting gameplay hampering bugs such as the double front iron sights, gun not shooting with first shot (this one gets me killed a lot), and the net code seems to be off. Also the entire stat/progression system is entirely jacked up to the point of no return (I was honor level 7 and randomly got upgraded to 22, I have 1600% accuracy with some guns, I have way to many kills/deaths etc.). All in all in a couple of months I'm sure the game will be awesome, but as it is now I personally find it more frustrating than fun as I always feel I'm battling bugs. I'd advise waiting for things to get fixed and the price to drop.Cloud567kar

So much money on it? You coulda got it for $28 at GMG, the game is amazing. Yea theres a few bugs, but nothing major. In 2 months this will be the multiplayer game to play. There will be free dlc and patches for a long time.

lol wut? there are more than a few.

Random crashes

Guns not shooting/reloading

Cover system is wacked out, half the time I will be in cover and go to use iron sights and he will aim into the wall

Performence is terrible (I have a 2 gig 6950 and an i5 2500k and can only play on medium after the patch)

Menus and navigation in game is atrocious, clicking respawn never felt so horrible. How can menus be this buggy really?

I can't stress enough about the menus, clicking to choose a gun or where to respawn is a hassle.

Russians almost always lose, their guns a are aweful, you need to have a great team in order to beat the axis.

Hit boxes are off, I have unloaded with a PPSH on somone and hit them with the whole clip according to the blood that spatted out only to get killed by a sing bolt bullet.

Guns are like laser, its like playing BF Bad Company. There is barely any bullet drop. What happened to the days of RO1 where bullets would just narrowly miss. Now everything is a hit. Its rediculous.

Climbing ladders on Grain Elevator is aweful.

You have two seconds to get back in bounds if you are out then boom you die. You will never make it back...you always die. And you dont know where the boundaries are until its to late. Boundaries also change depending on what is being captured and you could die two seconds later where it was safe a second ago.

Civer/Bandage/Use ARE THE SAME DAMN BUTTON!!!! THIS IS PC HOW CAN YOU HAVE THREE FUNCTIONS THE SAME DAMN BUTTON!!!!!!

Some of the decisions these guys made i s mind boggling really. With this being said, the game is kind of fun until you get frustrated by one of th MANY bugs......have fun playing this mess of a release.

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#17 jedikevin2
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I am personally waiting until there is a sale. I'm certain the game is great and all, but I'll wait until it's properly fixed before jumping in. And, BF3 is launching in five weeks anyways.

The_Capitalist

The BF3 is odd considering your statement is waiting till bugs are fixed. BF3 will have many bugs as well and you will need to wait on that game as well. Bugs will happen, just nature of things. It took 6 years for counterstrike source to finally have the bulk of bugs removed for example. Wait for one game, in 5 weeks don't wait for other since one has bugs? Odd..

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#18 bonafidetk
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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

I am personally waiting until there is a sale. I'm certain the game is great and all, but I'll wait until it's properly fixed before jumping in. And, BF3 is launching in five weeks anyways.

jedikevin2

The BF3 is odd considering your statement is waiting till bugs are fixed. BF3 will have many bugs as well and you will need to wait on that game as well. Bugs will happen, just nature of things. It took 6 years for counterstrike source to finally have the bulk of bugs removed for example. Wait for one game, in 5 weeks don't wait for other since one has bugs? Odd..

I didnt see any particular bugs in the BF3 alpha. I dont think there will be bugs any where near the level of RO2 release in BF3. I think the most likely problem will be some of the weapon balance like it was in BFBC2.
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#19 The_Capitalist
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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

I am personally waiting until there is a sale. I'm certain the game is great and all, but I'll wait until it's properly fixed before jumping in. And, BF3 is launching in five weeks anyways.

jedikevin2

The BF3 is odd considering your statement is waiting till bugs are fixed. BF3 will have many bugs as well and you will need to wait on that game as well. Bugs will happen, just nature of things. It took 6 years for counterstrike source to finally have the bulk of bugs removed for example. Wait for one game, in 5 weeks don't wait for other since one has bugs? Odd..

I've watched over a six hours of alpha footage back during the alpha's release. It looked pretty good to me. Sure, there might be some balancing issues, but if the game plays well and doesn't crash, I'll be satisfied enough. As for RO2, I bet it'll be prime by next year. By then, all of the bugs would have been fixed, lots of free content will be out, and the game will be just $30 or less.

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#20 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

I am personally waiting until there is a sale. I'm certain the game is great and all, but I'll wait until it's properly fixed before jumping in. And, BF3 is launching in five weeks anyways.

bonafidetk

The BF3 is odd considering your statement is waiting till bugs are fixed. BF3 will have many bugs as well and you will need to wait on that game as well. Bugs will happen, just nature of things. It took 6 years for counterstrike source to finally have the bulk of bugs removed for example. Wait for one game, in 5 weeks don't wait for other since one has bugs? Odd..

I didnt see any particular bugs in the BF3 alpha. I dont think there will be bugs any where near the level of RO2 release in BF3. I think the most likely problem will be some of the weapon balance like it was in BFBC2.

The bc2 beta played perfectly for me but the full game had a constant problem of freezing my computer requiring a hard reset each time it happened very annoying enjoyed the game in spite of it since it was so good but took dice months to finally fix that. If you look it up there was a big thread with alot of people having the same problem.
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#21 KHAndAnime
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It's literally the buggiest game I've ever played. Occasionally it's playable and enjoyable but for the most part it doesn't even work. There are dozens of things that should have been fixed before the game even launched. Some problems I've experienced... - It's impossible to mute microphones - Server browser incorrectly reporting ping - Ping randomly shoots up to 400+ in local servers for no apparent reason - Glitchy animations - Crashing - Blurry graphics etc. Just from the top of my head.
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#22 Gamesterpheonix
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lol this is depressing. I didnt think it was THAT bad from what I was hearing but damn. lol. I guess I will wait a while but I was hoping it would be my next big online FPS game - Ive only played Bad Company 2 online since I stopped playing TF2. Nothing else really has a population and I dont want to lay the old games like CSS or RO1 or the Unreal games or some crap. Sigh. I guess Ill have to wait for BF3 or something...
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#23 SF_KiLLaMaN
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They should have delayed it, but that would have been costly trying to release around the same time as BF3 and MW3.
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#24 kozzy1234
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The gameplay is fantastic, so is the music and level design.

There are still alot of bugs but they ahve had 3 patches already and more on the way (Tripwire also supports there games with content and updates for years after release).

Its a ton of fun with friends though, worth the price to get it now if you enjoy these types of games. But if you want to wait a month or two for more of the bugs to be fixed then wait a bit might even get it on sale.

Does take a little while to learn everything (maps, guns, controls) for some people but once you get the hang of things its really alot of fun.

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#25 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="Croag821"]I'd wait. I'm a veteran RO1 player and I regret spending so much money on the game. It's definitely a solid game, but it's just in a bad state right now and I find myself getting frustrated playing it. I keep getting gameplay hampering bugs such as the double front iron sights, gun not shooting with first shot (this one gets me killed a lot), and the net code seems to be off. Also the entire stat/progression system is entirely jacked up to the point of no return (I was honor level 7 and randomly got upgraded to 22, I have 1600% accuracy with some guns, I have way to many kills/deaths etc.). All in all in a couple of months I'm sure the game will be awesome, but as it is now I personally find it more frustrating than fun as I always feel I'm battling bugs. I'd advise waiting for things to get fixed and the price to drop.BodomArmy666

So much money on it? You coulda got it for $28 at GMG, the game is amazing. Yea theres a few bugs, but nothing major. In 2 months this will be the multiplayer game to play. There will be free dlc and patches for a long time.

lol wut? there are more than a few.

Random crashes

Guns not shooting/reloading

Cover system is wacked out, half the time I will be in cover and go to use iron sights and he will aim into the wall

Performence is terrible (I have a 2 gig 6950 and an i5 2500k and can only play on medium after the patch)

Menus and navigation in game is atrocious, clicking respawn never felt so horrible. How can menus be this buggy really?

I can't stress enough about the menus, clicking to choose a gun or where to respawn is a hassle.

Russians almost always lose, their guns a are aweful, you need to have a great team in order to beat the axis.

Hit boxes are off, I have unloaded with a PPSH on somone and hit them with the whole clip according to the blood that spatted out only to get killed by a sing bolt bullet.

Guns are like laser, its like playing BF Bad Company. There is barely any bullet drop. What happened to the days of RO1 where bullets would just narrowly miss. Now everything is a hit. Its rediculous.

Climbing ladders on Grain Elevator is aweful.

You have two seconds to get back in bounds if you are out then boom you die. You will never make it back...you always die. And you dont know where the boundaries are until its to late. Boundaries also change depending on what is being captured and you could die two seconds later where it was safe a second ago.

Civer/Bandage/Use ARE THE SAME DAMN BUTTON!!!! THIS IS PC HOW CAN YOU HAVE THREE FUNCTIONS THE SAME DAMN BUTTON!!!!!!

Some of the decisions these guys made i s mind boggling really. With this being said, the game is kind of fun until you get frustrated by one of th MANY bugs......have fun playing this mess of a release.

What? Sucks to be you I have a 570 and a 2500k at 4.1 and am running at max.

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#26 simardbrad
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Red Orchestra 2 is VERY playable at this stage. It definetly has less issues than both BC2 and Black Ops did at their respective releases. History has shown that Tripwire Interactive is very good at keeping long term support as well!

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#27 Iantheone
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What? Sucks to be you I have a 570 and a 2500k at 4.1 and am running at max.

Cloud567kar
4890 and running it at max :P
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absolutely abysmal performance. Any settings it runs at 20fps, on an Athlon 640 and 6950
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#29 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Red Orchestra 2 is VERY playable at this stage. It definetly has less issues than both BC2 and Black Ops did at their respective releases. History has shown that Tripwire Interactive is very good at keeping long term support as well!

simardbrad
Some people can't even start the game and then even more get awful performance. I love RO2 and I am one of the lucky ones that can actually play this game with decent performance.
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#30 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="simardbrad"]

Red Orchestra 2 is VERY playable at this stage. It definetly has less issues than both BC2 and Black Ops did at their respective releases. History has shown that Tripwire Interactive is very good at keeping long term support as well!

SF_KiLLaMaN
Some people can't even start the game and then even more get awful performance. I love RO2 and I am one of the lucky ones that can actually play this game with decent performance.

The game for some reason performs really well on older systems, and not very well on newer systems.
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I personally dont see any problems with the game. Than again, the bugs in New Vegas never bothered me either.
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#32 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="simardbrad"]

Red Orchestra 2 is VERY playable at this stage. It definetly has less issues than both BC2 and Black Ops did at their respective releases. History has shown that Tripwire Interactive is very good at keeping long term support as well!

ferret-gamer
Some people can't even start the game and then even more get awful performance. I love RO2 and I am one of the lucky ones that can actually play this game with decent performance.

The game for some reason performs really well on older systems, and not very well on newer systems.

Yeah. Probably why I can play on medium with no problem.
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#33 Gamesterpheonix
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[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

What? Sucks to be you I have a 570 and a 2500k at 4.1 and am running at max.

Iantheone
4890 and running it at max :P

lol from the screens it doesnt look like it as demanding as say BC2. lol. The only reason why its taking a little more to run maxed is the crappy bugs.
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#34 millerlight89
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I haven't really had any of these bug issues everyone seems to be having, however the performance of this game is a complete joke. Tripwire released this whole thing addressing that their game pushes all of these polygons and is doing soooo much more than these "console ports," and that's the reason for the poor performance. Yea complete bs guys, complete BS. Game looks good, but in no way is it some amazing achievement like they want to think. The fact of the matter is the game is poorly optimized and they know it. I should NOT be getting freaking 50 - 60 FPS with an SLI system.
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#35 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="simardbrad"]

Red Orchestra 2 is VERY playable at this stage. It definetly has less issues than both BC2 and Black Ops did at their respective releases. History has shown that Tripwire Interactive is very good at keeping long term support as well!

ferret-gamer

Some people can't even start the game and then even more get awful performance. I love RO2 and I am one of the lucky ones that can actually play this game with decent performance.

The game for some reason performs really well on older systems, and not very well on newer systems.

The game runs on older systems better because the game doesnt utilize what the newer hardware has very well.

Also the game might not look amazing to some but look at the amount of detail everywhere.

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#36 millerlight89
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Uh disregard my post about poor performance. I turned on the one thread frame lag options and my FPS went up to 98 and no longer bounces around like a maniac......weird.
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#37 jedikevin2
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Uh disregard my post about poor performance. I turned on the one thread frame lag options and my FPS went up to 98 and no longer bounces around like a maniac......weird.millerlight89
I was about to say M... No way you should be bouncing around with such a FPS unless something else was the issue. From my understanding though, that option puts lag on your CPU to I guess not cause it to go unsync with the gpu's etc etc.
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#38 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Uh disregard my post about poor performance. I turned on the one thread frame lag options and my FPS went up to 98 and no longer bounces around like a maniac......weird.jedikevin2
I was about to say M... No way you should be bouncing around with such a FPS unless something else was the issue. From my understanding though, that option puts lag on your CPU to I guess not cause it to go unsync with the gpu's etc etc.

Yea I wasn't too sure about that option so I left it unchecked. I was getting like 45-85 FPS constantly going from the highest to the lowest in that range. Now it hovers around 85-98 on 32 man servers. 64 man servers are still a pain and I'm not too sure the maps are too good for that many anyways.