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#1 Hamwize
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I'm after playing a game, any game, that is a really good representation of Dungeons & Dragons on the PC. Not too bothered about which ruleset, or how old the game is, I'm just in the mood for stat rolling, good/evil alignments, and shooting 'Melf's acid arrow's' at monsters.

Can anyone recommend a good, faithful interpretation of D&D? The more hardcore the better. Nevewinter Nights springs to mind, but I know there was a few others that came out during the late 90's/early 00's.

Thanks!

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#2 ionusX
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legend of grimrock

wizardry series is pretty faithful to that sort of game though not directly D&D related

dragon age: origins has a NWN mod i believe in the works (or had 1 rather).

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#3 Planeforger
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Check out the Dungeons and Dragons Anthology on Gamergate.

$20 gets you the best of the best official Dungeons and Dragons games, of various kinds:

- Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 are great all-round packages, and are two of the most 'complete' fantasy RPGs ever made
- Icewind Dale 1 and 2 are fantastic dungeon crawlers, focused on party composition and strategic combat
- Planescape Torment offers some of the best writing you'll ever find in a videogame, and is one of my all-time favourite games
- Temple of Elemental Evil did a good job of converting the D&D ruleset to digital form.

One warning: you'll have to download all of the games together, so that's a 10GB download. Totally worth it though.

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legend of grimrock

wizardry series is pretty faithful to that sort of game though not directly D&D related

dragon age: origins has a NWN mod i believe in the works (or had 1 rather).

ionusX

Neither wizardry nor grimrock are really D&D. Neither is dragon age (dunno about that mod, but the way everything is implemented in DA it's as far from D&D as you can get without making the game a first person shooter).

Some D&D-based games for the OP:

Baldur's gate and Baldur's gate 2 (+ expansion). Personally i found BG1 boring as hell but BG2 is awesome and you should play it if you already haven't. It's based on some old D&D ruleset, 2 or 2.5 or something. It even has that thac0 thing as a stat and lower armor class means more defense.

Icewind dale and Icewind dale 2. Very similar games to BG, but they are based on a newer ruleset IIRC.

Temple of elemental evil - one of the very rare turn-based D&D games (all others I mentioned so far are real time with pause). Very good combat system (probably best i've seen in a D&D computer game) but the game itself just screams "underdeveloped" - very little content, very short. I've heard there are some nice mods for it tho.

I don't know for certain but i think Pool of radiance games are directly based on D&D. I've only played ruins of myth drannor, but long ago so i've forgotten everything about it. All i remember that it was D&D and turn-based too but for some reason I didn't like it much.

Neverwinter nights 1 is sort of an inbred bastard child of D&D games. Very butchered implementation of D&D rules (you control only 1 character and 1 AI henchman and it plays more like Diablo than a proper D&D game). nevertheless, it can be pretty fun, and yes you can shoot melf's acid arrow at people. it also has multiplayer and a ton of mods, so you can play it with friends like a tabletop game.

Neverwinter nights 2 is closer to games like BG and IWD than the 1st NWN. Made by a company notorious for incredibly buggy games and horrible optimization. i think it's a step up from the first NWN, so play it.

that should be enough for the beggining

EDIT: oh right, i forgot Planescape: Torment, but that game may be a little different than what you are looking for. it's based on D&D, but has a lot of things that differ from it. it's mostly about story, quests and interactions with NPCS and using skill checks in dialogues. killing monsters makes up about 5% of the game. and the spells in the game are mostly unique and not directly taken from tabletop D&D. this game is kind of like a cross-breed between D&D and final fantasy except, unlike FF, it doesn't suck

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#5 Planeforger
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...And I've got to completely agree with the above post. BG1, NWN1, and Pool of Radiance were all a bit underwhelming. Neverwinter Nights 2 was pretty good though - I should have added that to my list.
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#6 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

legend of grimrock

wizardry series is pretty faithful to that sort of game though not directly D&D related

dragon age: origins has a NWN mod i believe in the works (or had 1 rather).

i_saw_a_mudcrab

Neither wizardry nor grimrock are really D&D. Neither is dragon age (dunno about that mod, but the way everything is implemented in DA it's as far from D&D as you can get without making the game a first person shooter).

Some D&D-based games for the OP:

Baldur's gate and Baldur's gate 2 (+ expansion). Personally i found BG1 boring as hell but BG2 is awesome and you should play it if you already haven't. It's based on some old D&D ruleset, 2 or 2.5 or something. It even has that thac0 thing as a stat and lower armor class means more defense.

Icewind dale and Icewind dale 2. Very similar games to BG, but they are based on a newer ruleset IIRC.

Temple of elemental evil - one of the very rare turn-based D&D games (all others I mentioned so far are real time with pause). Very good combat system (probably best i've seen in a D&D computer game) but the game itself just screams "underdeveloped" - very little content, very short. I've heard there are some nice mods for it tho.

I don't know for certain but i think Pool of radiance games are directly based on D&D. I've only played ruins of myth drannor, but long ago so i've forgotten everything about it. All i remember that it was D&D and turn-based too but for some reason I didn't like it much.

Neverwinter nights 1 is sort of an inbred bastard child of D&D games. Very butchered implementation of D&D rules (you control only 1 character and 1 AI henchman and it plays more like Diablo than a proper D&D game). nevertheless, it can be pretty fun, and yes you can shoot melf's acid arrow at people. it also has multiplayer and a ton of mods, so you can play it with friends like a tabletop game.

Neverwinter nights 2 is closer to games like BG and IWD than the 1st NWN. Made by a company notorious for incredibly buggy games and horrible optimization. i think it's a step up from the first NWN, so play it.

that should be enough for the beggining

EDIT: oh right, i forgot Planescape: Torment, but that game may be a little different than what you are looking for. it's based on D&D, but has a lot of things that differ from it. it's mostly about story, quests and interactions with NPCS and using skill checks in dialogues. killing monsters makes up about 5% of the game. and the spells in the game are mostly unique and not directly taken from tabletop D&D. this game is kind of like a cross-breed between D&D and final fantasy except, unlike FF, it doesn't suck

oh im not saying their even tied to that franchise. im not that flat headed. but D&D has at its core been a game about stats and character sheets and turn oriented combat. wizardy happens to do all of that quite nicely actually. a game doesnt need to be tied to a franchise in order to be at its core a similar game

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#7 bussinrounds
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Yea, if your a big combat guy, i would def stick with the turn based d&d games. Best and 'cleanest' representation.

D&D Gold Box Games and Forgotten Realms Unlimited Adventures editor...modules for it - http://frua.rosedragon.org/modulelist/file.php

Dark Sun games

Temple of Elemental Evil (MUST get the Circle of 8 modpack) http://www.co8.org/forum/

Warriors of the Eternal Sun

Knights of the Chalice http://www.heroicfantasygames.com/

If your a big 'story' guy, play Planescape:Torment.

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You know you could just start playing actual D&D or some other RPG if you're interested in that kind of thing. There you are actually given free will instead of the illusion of free will (e.g. whatever the writers could think of).

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Check out the Dungeons and Dragons Anthology on Gamergate.

$20 gets you the best of the best official Dungeons and Dragons games, of various kinds:

- Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 are great all-round packages, and are two of the most 'complete' fantasy RPGs ever made
- Icewind Dale 1 and 2 are fantastic dungeon crawlers, focused on party composition and strategic combat
- Planescape Torment offers some of the best writing you'll ever find in a videogame, and is one of my all-time favourite games
- Temple of Elemental Evil did a good job of converting the D&D ruleset to digital form.

One warning: you'll have to download all of the games together, so that's a 10GB download. Totally worth it though.

Planeforger

I bought mine retail for the same price. Comes in 2 DVDs.

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Actually the two KoTOR games are both based on a D&D rules set (the setting is obviously not from D&D).
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Might and Magic 1-5 are ok for RPGs with turn-based combat and DnD-style elements.

Everything from Spiderweb Software is quite good too.

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You know you could just start playing actual D&D or some other RPG if you're interested in that kind of thing. There you are actually given free will instead of the illusion of free will (e.g. whatever the writers could think of).

ex-mortis

ikr...cant tell u how many times i ended up messing up a dm's plan for the campaign because i would side track stuff with my rogue that i have...gotta love gettin out of prison or talking your way out of a "major" fight

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#13 ex-mortis
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[QUOTE="ex-mortis"]

You know you could just start playing actual D&D or some other RPG if you're interested in that kind of thing. There you are actually given free will instead of the illusion of free will (e.g. whatever the writers could think of).

lpjazzman220

ikr...cant tell u how many times i ended up messing up a dm's plan for the campaign because i would side track stuff with my rogue that i have...gotta love gettin out of prison or talking your way out of a "major" fight

Sadly though I have never been in a game before; D&D isn't a huge thing where I live (Iceland) so it's difficult to find a group.

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Two new great rpgs with an old school feel to them are LEGEND OF GRIMROCK and AVERNUM: ESCPAE THE PIT. Not exactly D+D but they are modern rpgs with a very old school feel to them (Old School D+D rpgs are some of my favs and I am loving these two new indie rpgs).

Give those a try!

Also might wanan try Drakensang,Planescape Torment, Baldurs Gate, Darksun and Neverwinter Nights series.

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Keep in mind that different games use different D&D rulesets. The older ones use 2nd Ed rules, while Neverwinter Nights 2 use 3rd edition rules.
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I'm after playing a game, any game, that is a really good representation of Dungeons & Dragons on the PC. Not too bothered about which ruleset, or how old the game is, I'm just in the mood for stat rolling, good/evil alignments, and shooting 'Melf's acid arrow's' at monsters.

Can anyone recommend a good, faithful interpretation of D&D? The more hardcore the better. Nevewinter Nights springs to mind, but I know there was a few others that came out during the late 90's/early 00's.

Thanks!

Hamwize
Baldurs Gate or IceWind Dale Series? Dungeons and Dragons Online? (I guess that uses the ruleset?)
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Actually the two KoTOR games are both based on a D&D rules set (the setting is obviously not from D&D). Mazoch
You mean the setting is not by Wizards of the Coast.. DnD is merely the ruleset in which a person can play what ever setting you want.. When i use to play PnP I always avoided Faerun or any other Wizards of the Coast setting.. To be frank they were stupid and entirely too cliche based around LoTR.. I honestly prefered settings like Warhammer Fantasy which is far darker and far more middle ages gothic.
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Keep in mind that different games use different D&D rulesets. The older ones use 2nd Ed rules, while Neverwinter Nights 2 use 3rd edition rules.ChiliDragon
NWN 2 uses 3.5 I believe.. NWN1 uses 3.0.. I am curious if they are going to release a game with 4.0 edition rules.. I actually like 4.0 edition ALOT compared to the older ones.
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]Keep in mind that different games use different D&D rulesets. The older ones use 2nd Ed rules, while Neverwinter Nights 2 use 3rd edition rules.sSubZerOo
NWN 2 uses 3.5 I believe.. NWN1 uses 3.0.. I am curious if they are going to release a game with 4.0 edition rules.. I actually like 4.0 edition ALOT compared to the older ones.

Duh. That's what I get for typing while watching Firefly. And a game based on the 4th Ed rule set would play like any generic fantasy MMO.
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[QUOTE="ChiliDragon"]Keep in mind that different games use different D&D rulesets. The older ones use 2nd Ed rules, while Neverwinter Nights 2 use 3rd edition rules.sSubZerOo
NWN 2 uses 3.5 I believe.. NWN1 uses 3.0.. I am curious if they are going to release a game with 4.0 edition rules.. I actually like 4.0 edition ALOT compared to the older ones.

If i'm not mistaken there are quite a lot of people that dislike 4.0 and I'm not even a huge fan of it either. Now we weren't all the heavy into the roleplaying, but the combat was just yawn inducing. First 2 or 3 rounds use all encounters and for the next 6 and beyond I get to use the same skill again and again... Woohoo!! Talk about exciting. And sadly that was with my second character because I was bored of my Paladin. I made my second character to be more exciting and it barely was. And honestly calling the setting Dungeon & Dragons is probably a better choice than Wizards of the Coast. Because Wizards are the publishers and as such saying the setting is Wizards could mean it is Magic and not D&D.
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#21 Lach0121
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legend of grimrock

ionusX

this game interests me as well, I am curious, is it turned based?