days of the stupid computer done?

well not with the monetary system in use.

and especially not with a central/world bank.

corperations dont look out for the consumer, they cant afford to,

do you think bestbuy will ever be like yes this computer on our shelf is nice, but the one across the street at circuit city is much better for the price, that they would stay in business long?... lol no, corperations cant afford to be ethical.

not with the above mentioned system still in use.

no i mean like currently u can buy a better PC and build it yourself with the same money it costs to buy one from said mom& pop shop/bestbuy/circut city/ etc. and more and more it seems people are turning towards that. so will we ever see the day where they make there price tags match there preformance.aura_enchanted

well not with the monetary system in use.

and especially not with a central/world bank.

corperations dont look out for the consumer, they cant afford to,

do you think bestbuy will ever be like yes this computer on our shelf is nice, but the one across the street at circuit city is much better for the price, that they would stay in business long?... lol no, corperations cant afford to be ethical.

not with the above mentioned system still in use.

Lach0121

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

well not with the monetary system in use.

and especially not with a central/world bank.

corperations dont look out for the consumer, they cant afford to,

do you think bestbuy will ever be like yes this computer on our shelf is nice, but the one across the street at circuit city is much better for the price, that they would stay in business long?... lol no, corperations cant afford to be ethical.

not with the above mentioned system still in use.

theragu40

First off, we do have a central/world bank sir, where do you think we get the ###billion dollar bail-out from?

and second off your "the profit to exist" is just what you have been taught.

and also bestbuy is losing money and will more than likely follow circuit city's path in the future.

so we disagree, as most do.

this is just a prime example of people clinging to a failing system.

[QUOTE="theragu40"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

well not with the monetary system in use.

and especially not with a central/world bank.

corperations dont look out for the consumer, they cant afford to,

do you think bestbuy will ever be like yes this computer on our shelf is nice, but the one across the street at circuit city is much better for the price, that they would stay in business long?... lol no, corperations cant afford to be ethical.

not with the above mentioned system still in use.

Lach0121

First off, we do have a central/world bank sir, where do you think we get the ###billion dollar bail-out from?

and second off your "the profit to exist" is just what you have been taught.

and also bestbuy is losing money and will more than likely follow circuit city's path in the future.

so we disagree, as most do.

this is just a prime example of people clinging to a failing system.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="theragu40"] Monetary system? You mean, like, exchanging money for goods and services? And we have no central world bank. It's hardly a question of whether corporations are being ethical. They have to make a profit in order to exist. Also, that strategy apparently works just fine for Best Buy, since Circuit City is the one that's bankrupt loltheragu40

First off, we do have a central/world bank sir, where do you think we get the ###billion dollar bail-out from?

and second off your "the profit to exist" is just what you have been taught.

and also bestbuy is losing money and will more than likely follow circuit city's path in the future.

so we disagree, as most do.

this is just a prime example of people clinging to a failing system.

where does the government get this money???? huh?

and secondly i was reffering to best buy failing, due to the fact it is part of this monetary system...

factual?? lol right.

lol you think what you want, but you are wrong, and im not gonna waste my time sitting here trying to explain

just for future referrence, do yourself a favor and dont be a blind follower ok.

and dont bother quoting me on here, or responding, save your time and effort. peace.

You are a hilarious, misguided, and pathetic man. Link me to something that shows me a centralized world bank and I will eat my words. Such a thing does not exist. If you'll read my post, I said that the government borrows money from banks in other countries. That is how the US has a national debt. That's how the economy works. The government infuses borrowed money into the economy in the hopes that it will stimulate spending and stabilize the markets. Google Keynesian economics.

And Best Buy...I don't think I have any idea what you're talking about. Do you mean capitalism? Because then at least I understand what you're trying to say (though I still disagree with you). The whole idea of a corporation is to make money. Hence if they stop making money, they cease to exist. That's how capitalism works. In a communistic society, there are no corporations, because the concept of profit is lost. Here profit still exists...and that is why companies like Dell and HP and Gateway will continue to charge a little more for their systems. They have to make a profit, or they will no longer be viable as companies. I don't know where you live or what system you think you are part of...but I am no blind follower and do not hope to be. If you want to debate that America should move away from capitalism that's one thing (though I again would disagree with you), but I don't think you really have any idea what you think. lol. just lol.theragu40

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

posting wars gotta love em..aura_enchanted

It'll never changepeople will always overpay for low quality stuff they don't understand. This goes for pretty much anything, from PCs to audio equipment to cars...markop2003

[QUOTE="theragu40"]You are a hilarious, misguided, and pathetic man. Link me to something that shows me a centralized world bank and I will eat my words. Such a thing does not exist. If you'll read my post, I said that the government borrows money from banks in other countries. That is how the US has a national debt. That's how the economy works. The government infuses borrowed money into the economy in the hopes that it will stimulate spending and stabilize the markets. Google Keynesian economics.

And Best Buy...I don't think I have any idea what you're talking about. Do you mean capitalism? Because then at least I understand what you're trying to say (though I still disagree with you). The whole idea of a corporation is to make money. Hence if they stop making money, they cease to exist. That's how capitalism works. In a communistic society, there are no corporations, because the concept of profit is lost. Here profit still exists...and that is why companies like Dell and HP and Gateway will continue to charge a little more for their systems. They have to make a profit, or they will no longer be viable as companies. I don't know where you live or what system you think you are part of...but I am no blind follower and do not hope to be. If you want to debate that America should move away from capitalism that's one thing (though I again would disagree with you), but I don't think you really have any idea what you think. lol. just lol.Lach0121

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

I thought the bail out came from the International Monetry Fund

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="theragu40"]You are a hilarious, misguided, and pathetic man. Link me to something that shows me a centralized world bank and I will eat my words. Such a thing does not exist. If you'll read my post, I said that the government borrows money from banks in other countries. That is how the US has a national debt. That's how the economy works. The government infuses borrowed money into the economy in the hopes that it will stimulate spending and stabilize the markets. Google Keynesian economics.

And Best Buy...I don't think I have any idea what you're talking about. Do you mean capitalism? Because then at least I understand what you're trying to say (though I still disagree with you). The whole idea of a corporation is to make money. Hence if they stop making money, they cease to exist. That's how capitalism works. In a communistic society, there are no corporations, because the concept of profit is lost. Here profit still exists...and that is why companies like Dell and HP and Gateway will continue to charge a little more for their systems. They have to make a profit, or they will no longer be viable as companies. I don't know where you live or what system you think you are part of...but I am no blind follower and do not hope to be. If you want to debate that America should move away from capitalism that's one thing (though I again would disagree with you), but I don't think you really have any idea what you think. lol. just lol.markop2003

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

I thought the bail out came from the International Monetry Fund

world bank and imf, i think are 2 faces of the same corperation.

posting wars gotta love em..aura_enchanted

and to you, your the OP right, i do apologize your thread turned into this. lol is not exactly what i had intended, all i wanted to do at first was answer your question.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

Lach0121

I thought the bail out came from the International Monetry Fund

world bank and imf, i think are 2 faces of the same corperation.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="markop2003"]

I thought the bail out came from the International Monetry Fund

theragu40

world bank and imf, i think are 2 faces of the same corperation.

and im sorry for insulting you earlier man

im trying to better myself, and i cant do that, by insulting people.

and all i ask is that you dont insult me.

so friends?

Friends :) I take back my insults as well.theragu40

yay, this is one way how society can become civilized.

[QUOTE="theragu40"]You are a hilarious, misguided, and pathetic man. Link me to something that shows me a centralized world bank and I will eat my words. Such a thing does not exist. If you'll read my post, I said that the government borrows money from banks in other countries. That is how the US has a national debt. That's how the economy works. The government infuses borrowed money into the economy in the hopes that it will stimulate spending and stabilize the markets. Google Keynesian economics.

And Best Buy...I don't think I have any idea what you're talking about. Do you mean capitalism? Because then at least I understand what you're trying to say (though I still disagree with you). The whole idea of a corporation is to make money. Hence if they stop making money, they cease to exist. That's how capitalism works. In a communistic society, there are no corporations, because the concept of profit is lost. Here profit still exists...and that is why companies like Dell and HP and Gateway will continue to charge a little more for their systems. They have to make a profit, or they will no longer be viable as companies. I don't know where you live or what system you think you are part of...but I am no blind follower and do not hope to be. If you want to debate that America should move away from capitalism that's one thing (though I again would disagree with you), but I don't think you really have any idea what you think. lol. just lol.Lach0121

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

Just out of curisoity, how old are you, are you still in school?

While I do not know for sure, I would be willing to bet money that we put more money into the World Bank then we will ever get out of it, if we get any at all.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="theragu40"]You are a hilarious, misguided, and pathetic man. Link me to something that shows me a centralized world bank and I will eat my words. Such a thing does not exist. If you'll read my post, I said that the government borrows money from banks in other countries. That is how the US has a national debt. That's how the economy works. The government infuses borrowed money into the economy in the hopes that it will stimulate spending and stabilize the markets. Google Keynesian economics.

And Best Buy...I don't think I have any idea what you're talking about. Do you mean capitalism? Because then at least I understand what you're trying to say (though I still disagree with you). The whole idea of a corporation is to make money. Hence if they stop making money, they cease to exist. That's how capitalism works. In a communistic society, there are no corporations, because the concept of profit is lost. Here profit still exists...and that is why companies like Dell and HP and Gateway will continue to charge a little more for their systems. They have to make a profit, or they will no longer be viable as companies. I don't know where you live or what system you think you are part of...but I am no blind follower and do not hope to be. If you want to debate that America should move away from capitalism that's one thing (though I again would disagree with you), but I don't think you really have any idea what you think. lol. just lol.opamando

lol do you feel better now? http://www.worldbank.org/ just because it isnt in one building does not mean it isnt a central bank.

please do check out the site map, as well as notice the stimuls bail out topic :)

Just out of curisoity, how old are you, are you still in school?

While I do not know for sure, I would be willing to bet money that we put more money into the World Bank then we will ever get out of it, if we get any at all.

but the world bank does actually create money out of thin air.

but i do disagree on teh world bank FAQ you have there. and it does not operate how most of the world thinks it does.

in all honesty im kinda tired of going thru this lol, i dont know exactly how they operate, but truth be told i doubt half of their employees do as well.

but i know they are extremely crooked and behind most of the bs that has happened the past few hundred years.

"give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes the laws" Mayer A. Rothschild.

About the thread :arrow:

I selected my components(reading reviews,benchmarks,etc...) in drop-down menus on a website thus choosing the whole setup. It costed me 1000€ to have it built,tested, delivered to my doorstep.

The website vendor also sells a pre-built system, that has all the "baby brothers" of MY chosen components instaled (same OS) and it costs 113€ more..

Solid warranties included for all components.

A little confused...but happy! :D

yeah sorry bout the topic thread,

lets get back to the topic at hand, we have kinda went a little off course. lol. but im gonna go game now, and maybe eat. oh eat sounds good.

i sell these store bought PCs for a living (but mainly i sell laptops, coz our desktop market is very slow). Its not a matter of gettin rid of "stupid computers", its a matter of should we issue computer licence (a la Drivers licence) because we see so many people who still lack basic PC knowledge. I had a family that bought a laptop off me, then they returned it claiming the battery wasn't lasting long (it was fine, they were just cranking all the features on at once, like wi-fi with USB broadband, full screen brightness and speakers on high). when i swapped it over i suggested they purchase a USB drive to transfer their documents over. THese people gladly spent $5 on a drive, only to question me on how do they "drag and drop".

this is just one case of many "Face-palm" worthy moments in basic computer use. THes days my store bought PCs are getting decent value, but mainly i recommend them over custom builds due to warranty claiming. The small shops near me that you can custom build at (AUstin Computers, PLE, Arrow, I am australian btw) generally have trerrible service and will not chase warranty claims for the customer (they ahve to do it themselves).

I think Lach012 just got done watching zeitgeist :P

But to stay on topic, prebuilt computers are actually cheaper than building your own if you are not looking to game with it. If you are looking to build a gaming computer then thats where you get ripped off because companies charge a lot for a prebuilt gaming computer.

I think Lach012 just got done watching zeitgeist :P

But to stay on topic, prebuilt computers are actually cheaper than building your own if you are not looking to game with it. If you are looking to build a gaming computer then thats where you get ripped off because companies charge a lot for a prebuilt gaming computer.

Trilvester

That's not always the case, especially if you're a smart shopper on the lookout for deals, but generally that is true. However, would you rather save $50 or have a system using high-quality, hand picked components that can all be upgraded at anytime? Plus no bloatware preinstalled on the PC.

I think Lach012 just got done watching zeitgeist :P

But to stay on topic, prebuilt computers are actually cheaper than building your own if you are not looking to game with it. If you are looking to build a gaming computer then thats where you get ripped off because companies charge a lot for a prebuilt gaming computer.

Trilvester

zeitgeist is just a single source, you can look the stuff up on your own.. lol

but its best to stay on topic :P

will there ever be a day when we stop seeing storebought PC's that are both a) overpriced and b) under powered??aura_enchanted

if everything cost as much as they should, we wouldn't be living in the capitalist countries we do now.AzNs3nSaT1On

[QUOTE="AzNs3nSaT1On"]if everything cost as much as they should, we wouldn't be living in the capitalist countries we do now.ferret-gamer

lol ....