Dead Space 3 Producer DEFENDS PC port

http://games.on.net/2013/01/we-want-it-to-be-great-on-all-systems-dead-space-3-producer-defends-pc-port/

To be fair though, part 1 and 2 were perfect ports, I don't know why PC Gamers are worried about the port for part 3.

What amazes me is that they are making it dx10 only when Frostbite 2 is a dx11 native engine. I just don't get why they would do that. ferret-gamer

What amazes me is that they are making it dx10 only when Frostbite 2 is a dx11 native engine. I just don't get why they would do that. ferret-gamer

Game looks fine on consoles, it will look even better at high resolutions. DS2 was a good port, PC gamers shouldn't expect every game to be the best PC port in the world. Especially when DS2 was almost cancelled on PC. If more people bought it on PC, you'd probably see a better port.

I'm happy we are getting it the same day as consoles.

"The biggest thing is we want to make sure the quality of the experience is consistent across all platforms so we don't have one userbase saying it's better on their system."

See, the problem with that attitude is that the PC is going to be able to beat any console, any day. Do they limit the game to sub-1080p resolutions because the 360/PS3 can't output above that? The reason PC needs "special treatment" is because it's an ever-evolving platform with a huge range of different hardware specs. It's not one unified, static platform like consoles, and he needs to acknowledge that.

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"The biggest thing is we want to make sure the quality of the experience is consistent across all platforms so we don't have one userbase saying it's better on their system."

metroidfood

See, the problem with that attitude is that the PC is going to be able to beat any console, any day. Do they limit the game to sub-1080p resolutions because the 360/PS3 can't output above that? The reason PC needs "special treatment" is because it's an ever-evolving platform with a huge range of different hardware specs. It's not one unified, static platform like consoles, and he needs to acknowledge that.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]What amazes me is that they are making it dx10 only when Frostbite 2 is a dx11 native engine. I just don't get why they would do that. nutcrackr

Game looks fine on consoles, it will look even better at high resolutions. DS2 was a good port, PC gamers shouldn't expect every game to be the best PC port in the world. Especially when DS2 was almost cancelled on PC. If more people bought it on PC, you'd probably see a better port.

I'm happy we are getting it the same day as consoles.

Oh, i thought it was using FB2

Bit of a poor excuse. I'm not going to get all 'entitled' and say; we deserve a superior experience because out systems can accommodate a superior experience. However, saying they don't want one system to have something because another system can't support it is a bit of a cop out. They should just say time, budget and whatever else doesn't allow for added features to the PC version, which would be a reasonable response.C_Rule

With all the kinect, coop and microtransactions its clear they had a plan from the get go with what they wanted to do with this game and making a superior PC port was probably never in discussion. I personally don't think it was lazyness, just more of a case of "we are a console developer first and foremost" and it shows with the first 2 games on PC. The first game had an issue with vsync causing the mouse to move like crap when turned on and the 2nd while being better job overall still didn't have additional features beyond the usual tweaking shadows and HDR stuff. Overall the ports were as bare bones as you could get so I never expected them to do anything more then provide the basics.

I actually think this guy is telling the truth about their original intent because its clear that they just don't care to make a superior PC port.

I had no problem with the second game. It was just the first one, going through menus was annoying as the mouse sensitivity felt really weird.

Can anyone comment on the DS2 k/m controls? Is it really gimpy? Just wondering... played the first 2 on PS3, this will be my first DS for PC.

I can honestly say I am having a lil bit of regret from pre-buying the PC version with all the latest articles on IGN about this port. Can someone please tell me I have nothing to worry about, and the PC version will be just fine. I know the resolution will be fine... but will the port be gimped in any way? tell me I dont need to run out a pre-order the PS3 version as well.

Side note: I have the hardcore trophy for PS3. I know that origin reconizes my gamer profile from PS3. Will I still get the Hardcore bonus in DS3 on PC if I got the hardcore trophy in PS3?

Sounds like a bit of a cop-out but as long as it runs as great as Dead Space 2, then I'm fine with that.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]What amazes me is that they are making it dx10 only when Frostbite 2 is a dx11 native engine. I just don't get why they would do that. FelipeInside

Fun, performs well, and even if it looks barely better than Dead Space 2, then I will be happy.

Maybe if you guys got more information about the pc version you would not be crying so much. They made Dead Space 3 with an optional control scheme for Disabled gamers, they obviously care about the pc version. Being a disabled gamer myself I am so happy i wont have to edit controls on another game.

You might not be disabled but what if you were?

At least they are making(or already made) a port to PC , and not simply told us "the PC version is up for consideration" .

DX11 isn't just for eye candy, For those who have DX11 Cards it actually increases performance.

I wouldn't call it laziness, but it says something about a developer when they're willing to invest the time, effort and money to take advantage of what the PC has to offer.C_Rule

Because why put in that time and effort when a large portion of the people who will utilize your product will do so illegally without paying you for it?

At least they are making(or already made) a port to PC , and not simply told us "the PC version is up for consideration" .

woomar

LOL @ Rockstar.

Didn't they say the same thing about Dead Space 2? The textures were a bit muddy but it looked/ran just fine. I'm more concerned about the combat, I hope it has the same deliberate pace as the first two.

I think I heard somewhere it has a cover system. Is this true? I hope to god its not.

probably will buy it when it goes to 15 bucks in next holiday season

Didn't they say the same thing about Dead Space 2? The textures were a bit muddy but it looked/ran just fine. I'm more concerned about the combat, I hope it has the same deliberate pace as the first two.

I think I heard somewhere it has a cover system. Is this true? I hope to god its not.

with_teeth26

Part 1 wasn't a perfect port, it had one of the worst mouse controls ever, only playable with a controller.ampiva

DX11 isn't just for eye candy, For those who have DX11 Cards it actually increases performance.

faizan_faizan

[QUOTE="ampiva"]Part 1 wasn't a perfect port, it had one of the worst mouse controls ever, only playable with a controller.FelipeInside

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

Didn't they say the same thing about Dead Space 2? The textures were a bit muddy but it looked/ran just fine. I'm more concerned about the combat, I hope it has the same deliberate pace as the first two.

I think I heard somewhere it has a cover system. Is this true? I hope to god its not.

Elann2008

[QUOTE="ampiva"]Part 1 wasn't a perfect port, it had one of the worst mouse controls ever, only playable with a controller.FelipeInside

yeah, DS1's vsync was straight up broken, and made the whole game virtually unplayable, regardless of control scheme. With it turned off, I played the game using mouse and keyboard just fine, except the menu system was annoying. Also, I absolutely hate the map system. Can anyone tell me if Dead Space 2 fixed that god-awful map? I've had DS2 sitting in origin for months, and I haven't tried it yet.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ampiva"]Part 1 wasn't a perfect port, it had one of the worst mouse controls ever, only playable with a controller.the_bi99man

yeah, DS1's vsync was straight up broken, and made the whole game virtually unplayable, regardless of control scheme. With it turned off, I played the game using mouse and keyboard just fine, except the menu system was annoying. Also, I absolutely hate the map system. Can anyone tell me if Dead Space 2 fixed that god-awful map? I've had DS2 sitting in origin for months, and I haven't tried it yet.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="ampiva"]Part 1 wasn't a perfect port, it had one of the worst mouse controls ever, only playable with a controller.the_bi99man

yeah, DS1's vsync was straight up broken, and made the whole game virtually unplayable, regardless of control scheme. With it turned off, I played the game using mouse and keyboard just fine, except the menu system was annoying. Also, I absolutely hate the map system. Can anyone tell me if Dead Space 2 fixed that god-awful map? I've had DS2 sitting in origin for months, and I haven't tried it yet.

They got rid of the map system from DS1 and replaced it with.....nothing, its just gone now. I personally thought it was kinda cool in DS1 because it at least gives you an idea about the general layout and distance the objectives were, mostly I liked it because it helped create the illusion your on a real ship (at least for me it did).

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]I wouldn't call it laziness, but it says something about a developer when they're willing to invest the time, effort and money to take advantage of what the PC has to offer.Squeets

Because why put in that time and effort when a large portion of the people who will utilize your product will do so illegally without paying you for it?

It's so very tasty!

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]I wouldn't call it laziness, but it says something about a developer when they're willing to invest the time, effort and money to take advantage of what the PC has to offer.-wildflower-

Because why put in that time and effort when a large portion of the people who will utilize your product will do so illegally without paying you for it?

It's so very tasty!

What drugs are you on?

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Nonsense. You just had to turn VSync off and put mouse sensitivity to max. I played it all the way with MS/KB without any issues.FelipeInside

yeah, DS1's vsync was straight up broken, and made the whole game virtually unplayable, regardless of control scheme. With it turned off, I played the game using mouse and keyboard just fine, except the menu system was annoying. Also, I absolutely hate the map system. Can anyone tell me if Dead Space 2 fixed that god-awful map? I've had DS2 sitting in origin for months, and I haven't tried it yet.

I just always found it damn near impossible to get a good view out of it. The way it was colored and designed made everything look the same, I couldn't figure out where it was trying to say elevators were going, and the way that you couldn't actually move it, except for moving it around, with yourself as the constant center, made looking at different sections of a map that happened to have a long hallway or elevator painfully awkward.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

yeah, DS1's vsync was straight up broken, and made the whole game virtually unplayable, regardless of control scheme. With it turned off, I played the game using mouse and keyboard just fine, except the menu system was annoying. Also, I absolutely hate the map system. Can anyone tell me if Dead Space 2 fixed that god-awful map? I've had DS2 sitting in origin for months, and I haven't tried it yet.

the_bi99man

I just always found it damn near impossible to get a good view out of it. The way it was colored and designed made everything look the same, I couldn't figure out where it was trying to say elevators were going, and the way that you couldn't actually move it, except for moving it around, with yourself as the constant center, made looking at different sections of a map that happened to have a long hallway or elevator painfully awkward.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] What bad map system?FelipeInside

I just always found it damn near impossible to get a good view out of it. The way it was colored and designed made everything look the same, I couldn't figure out where it was trying to say elevators were going, and the way that you couldn't actually move it, except for moving it around, with yourself as the constant center, made looking at different sections of a map that happened to have a long hallway or elevator painfully awkward.

yeah, by like halfway through the game, I slowly stopped using it, as it got too frustrating. I liked referencing it to make sure I explored every possible corner, though. That light waypoint thing was pretty cool, though. Is that back in DS2? Also, yeah, no map sounds interesting. I guess I'll have to finally install DS2 and give it a try. I'm gonna force myself to finish Alan Wake first, though. I've got way too many games on the "currently playing" list. Need to finish some, and consolidate.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

I just always found it damn near impossible to get a good view out of it. The way it was colored and designed made everything look the same, I couldn't figure out where it was trying to say elevators were going, and the way that you couldn't actually move it, except for moving it around, with yourself as the constant center, made looking at different sections of a map that happened to have a long hallway or elevator painfully awkward.

the_bi99man

yeah, by like halfway through the game, I slowly stopped using it, as it got too frustrating. I liked referencing it to make sure I explored every possible corner, though. That light waypoint thing was pretty cool, though. Is that back in DS2? Also, yeah, no map sounds interesting. I guess I'll have to finally install DS2 and give it a try. I'm gonna force myself to finish Alan Wake first, though. I've got way too many games on the "currently playing" list. Need to finish some, and consolidate.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

Didn't they say the same thing about Dead Space 2? The textures were a bit muddy but it looked/ran just fine. I'm more concerned about the combat, I hope it has the same deliberate pace as the first two.

I think I heard somewhere it has a cover system. Is this true? I hope to god its not.

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

yeah, by like halfway through the game, I slowly stopped using it, as it got too frustrating. I liked referencing it to make sure I explored every possible corner, though. That light waypoint thing was pretty cool, though. Is that back in DS2? Also, yeah, no map sounds interesting. I guess I'll have to finally install DS2 and give it a try. I'm gonna force myself to finish Alan Wake first, though. I've got way too many games on the "currently playing" list. Need to finish some, and consolidate.

FelipeInside

Yeah, I know. I think I'm probably about halfway through it, and I've been loving it. I'm just currently playing way too many games, and haven't found time for it for like a week. I prefer to play it at night, in the dark. I think it should be the one to knock off the list to make room for DS2, since I don't need to be playing two different horror-style third person shooters.:P I guess I'll resist the urge to do another Path of Exile marathon tonight, and instead try to power through the rest of Alan Wake.

Hopefully AA is easier to force in DS3.

One thing that is common in all Dead Space games is that they have horrible aliasing that makes the game unbarable to play for me.

The flashing jaggedies all over the screen was such a turn off and when I learned how to force AA in the first Dead Space it made a world of difference.

The second Dead Space didn't have a good implementation of AA without sacrificing shadows or getting a shoddy version of AA.

http://games.on.net/2013/01/we-want-it-to-be-great-on-all-systems-dead-space-3-producer-defends-pc-port/

To be fair though, part 1 and 2 were perfect ports, I don't know why PC Gamers are worried about the port for part 3.

FelipeInside

The 3D map thing in DS was neat but very hard to interpret. They just have the button that shows you the way to your next objective. This is fine if you get lost, doesn't show you hidden stashes or anything that you'll need, just a direct route.

Somebody said there is cover shooting in DS3 but I never did figure out the button for it in the PS3 demo, you can crouch and do a roll. I believe the roll was in DS2 anyway. I never needed to use the cover and in the end necro sequence you can't use cover at all.

To me if felt very much like the other games obviously with a change to the setting and a more involving resource system. I'm not sure how much human shooting there will be, obviously they use cover. But in the demo sequences the necros came out and just destroyed them. Demo is going to compress the action also and you could clearly tell that there were bits cut out.

The 3D map thing in DS was neat but very hard to interpret. They just have the button that shows you the way to your next objective. This is fine if you get lost, doesn't show you hidden stashes or anything that you'll need, just a direct route.

Somebody said there is cover shooting in DS3 but I never did figure out the button for it in the PS3 demo, you can crouch and do a roll. I believe the roll was in DS2 anyway. I never needed to use the cover and in the end necro sequence you can't use cover at all.

To me if felt very much like the other games obviously with a change to the setting and a more involving resource system. I'm not sure how much human shooting there will be, obviously they use cover. But in the demo sequences the necros came out and just destroyed them. Demo is going to compress the action also and you could clearly tell that there were bits cut out.

nutcrackr

Sounds promising. I can't even remember where I heard there was a cover system, its possible I am just crazy. I just don't want it to turn into a cover-shooter.

I'm still going to withhold from pre-ordering though until I hear some feedback about the PC version specifically.

Sounds promising. I can't even remember where I heard there was a cover system, its possible I am just crazy. I just don't want it to turn into a cover-shooter.

I'm still going to withhold from pre-ordering though until I hear some feedback about the PC version specifically.

with_teeth26

Hopefully AA is easier to force in DS3.

One thing that is common in all Dead Space games is that they have horrible aliasing that makes the game unbarable to play for me.

The flashing jaggedies all over the screen was such a turn off and when I learned how to force AA in the first Dead Space it made a world of difference.

The second Dead Space didn't have a good implementation of AA without sacrificing shadows or getting a shoddy version of AA.

RyviusARC

All I can say is that it doesn't make me want the game any more, that's for certain. My interest in this turd is at an all-time low I guess.