Deus Ex (does everyone love it?)

I am playing it, and while in some ways its really good, many things are making it hard for me to get into it. I am just curious if I am the only one and if I am judging it too soon. I am not that far, I am roming the streets after I get off the subway and I am in the pub and so forth. I just feel like it is HORRIBLY dated and I know a lot of games are that are this old, but I feel games like counterstrike and Ocarina of Time hold up over the years. Maybe it is just my preferences.

Hmm... truly a great classic!

Awesome on both single player and multiplayer.

I didn't like it at all. Tried playing it multiple times. Bland and boring IMHO. On an aside... Ocarina of Time has not held up very well imho. Not from a gameplay point of view, but because of a simple technical flaw that kills me when I try playing it again. The pop-in distance for all the characters/enemies in the game is insanely short. Unplayably short imho... Which is why I'm thrilled about the upcoming remake on the 3DS. The sequel Majora's Mask thankfully is not so afflicted, having a very acceptable character pop-in distance AND much improved textures..jedinat

But I guess this is the type of person that wouldn't like Deus Ex. No attention span whatsoever.. If people say something is good, I'd at least play it thoroughly before arriving at the conclusion that it isn't good.KHAndAnime

Objectively the best game of all time. It's funny, because people take for granted just how innovative it is. I know I did for quite some time, but that didn't stop me from loving it. When I found out just how critically acclaimed it was, I realised exactly what it was that made me enjoy it, making me love it even more. There is no denying that it has its flaws, some major, some minor; that's a given when you develop a game of such magnitude. However, when you look at how games like Invisible War, Alpha Protocol and STALKER fell short, it makes you realise what a miracle Deus Ex is.

the graphics are extremely dated yes, the gameplay is also pretty dated.

But, the atmo and story in this game is more immersive and superior then any other modern story-oriented game.

So comparing deus-ex with counter strike is absolutly ridiculous, because its completely diffrent (cs: good shooting mechanics and no story, deus ex: bad shooting mechanics and an unbelievable good story)

People who don't like deus-ex are (according to me) people who don't really have any interest in story/atmo in games but only care about gameplay mechanics and graphics.

Its like people who read books (deus ex) and people who watch movies (cs), one is not superior to the other because both can be very good but its something completely diffrent. you can ofc enjoy books AND movies!

I loved the game, played and completed it for the first time in 2009. Graphics maybe are dated, but the art design is good. Gameplay I think is still good and many new games dont match the level of the gameplay of Deus Ex. It is a fun game, best part is the story imo. Definitely one of the best games I have ever played. Guns might not be accurate, but it is based on RPG system... so you have to upgrade your skills to become more accurate with weapons you use. Or just use melee, like I did. So I have big hopes for Deus Ex 3 (which is set 25 years prior to Deus Ex 1 events).

Ah, I forgot to add that, yes, Deus Ex IS horribly dated these days... my last attempt at playing it was fairly recent. Once in a while I'll come back to something I dismissed and find my tastes or ability to appreciate or whatever has changed. Well this time I felt nothing but disgust for the horrible muddy, blocky ugliness that is Des Ex. Empty environments, uninteresting narrative (at least at the beginning... and I had no will to move beyond that), the gameplay... there was just nothing there for me. I just felt immensely depressed, lol.jedinat

My advice to you is try to push beyond the earlier stages. If you haven't been to at least Hong Kong than you aren't judging Deus Ex by it's strengths and rather it's weaknesses. The latter of course is much more prominent in this date than it was, but the former is still very much the same quality it was when it was first released.

I don't love it. I'm not a fan of cyberpunk, the voice acting is ridiculous, the pacing is very bad and some gameplay mechanics are atrocious. It is a good game, but System Shock and Thief are much better.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]But I guess this is the type of person that wouldn't like Deus Ex. No attention span whatsoever.. If people say something is good, I'd at least play it thoroughly before arriving at the conclusion that it isn't good.jedinat

If you aren't going to 'waste your time' with game recommendations, then why play the game in the first place? Obviously you've never extended your attention span to give something different a try, or else you'd know by know how rewarding it is to judge things based on their entirety and not the first 30 minutes. What would you have done with that 'wasted time'. Play other videogames? :lol:

Loved it. But there is one thing that sucked in this otherwise perfect game. The ridiculously innacurate weapons. Seriously, it was horrible, take one stop forward and the aim you build up by standing still for 5 seconds is gone!!dakan45

Have you maxed out your weapons skills, or atleast until Advanced? Or used some recoil/accuracy/snipe etc. modifications that you can buy in the game from various shops? The game isn't focused on killing people, but on the atmosphere, i believe.

I have absolutely no problem at all headshooting soldiers with my 10mm pistol on Advanced with a few modifications, be it on the move or not, on the Medium difficulty.. I'm re-playing it right now, 2-3 hours a day.

I think a lot of people hate the game because they simply hate the graphics, which are heavily dated, and don't know that Deus Ex is NOT a traditional shooter, but more of a cyber-punk stealth-action that focuses on its atmosphere and story. Oh yeah, some voices-actors are plain silly, but i love it, so funny.

It's one of the best games I've ever played.

its simply my favorite game of all time. There was so many ways you could complete a level. Truely a gem of a game.

i can understand kids not liking this game tough, games are all about graphics nowadays so it might get hard to get into deus ex for them

Deus Ex had laughably bad AI, blah visuals, blah shooting mechanics and horrid voice acting (Hong Kong...*shudder*). However, pretty much everything else in the game was brilliant.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Loved it. But there is one thing that sucked in this otherwise perfect game. The ridiculously innacurate weapons. Seriously, it was horrible, take one stop forward and the aim you build up by standing still for 5 seconds is gone!!Lucianu

Have you maxed out your weapons skills, or atleast until Advanced? Or used some recoil/accuracy/snipe etc. modifications that you can buy in the game from various shops? The game isn't focused on killing people, but on the atmosphere, i believe.

I have absolutely no problem at all headshooting soldiers with my 10mm pistol on Advanced with a few modifications, be it on the move or not, on the Medium difficulty.. I'm re-playing it right now, 2-3 hours a day.

I think a lot of people hate the game because they simply hate the graphics, which are heavily dated, and don't know that Deus Ex is NOT a traditional shooter, but more of a cyber-punk stealth-action that focuses on its atmosphere and story. Oh yeah, some voices-actors are plain silly, but i love it, so funny.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Loved it. But there is one thing that sucked in this otherwise perfect game. The ridiculously innacurate weapons. Seriously, it was horrible, take one stop forward and the aim you build up by standing still for 5 seconds is gone!!dakan45

Have you maxed out your weapons skills, or atleast until Advanced? Or used some recoil/accuracy/snipe etc. modifications that you can buy in the game from various shops? The game isn't focused on killing people, but on the atmosphere, i believe.

I have absolutely no problem at all headshooting soldiers with my 10mm pistol on Advanced with a few modifications, be it on the move or not, on the Medium difficulty.. I'm re-playing it right now, 2-3 hours a day.

I think a lot of people hate the game because they simply hate the graphics, which are heavily dated, and don't know that Deus Ex is NOT a traditional shooter, but more of a cyber-punk stealth-action that focuses on its atmosphere and story. Oh yeah, some voices-actors are plain silly, but i love it, so funny.

It's my favorite game. I played through it again last summer and I was surprised at how much I still enjoyed it.

But it's also one of those games that I don't recommend to anyone anymore.

I think it's one of those love/hate games (as demonstrated by your poll), and in 2010 it's lot easier to hate it than to love it, so I'd rather not hear a bunch of complaints about graphics and what-not from the people I recommend it to. I will give this advice to anyone considering it, look at the screenshots before you buy the game because that's what you're getting. If you can't handle the way it looks in the screenshots, don't even bother.

Oh that's fair, play a 10 year old game and accuse it of being dated. The game was great for its time, you had to be there. Now that you are late for the party, don't spoil it for the others. And your point about Counterstrike holding up, I doubt you would say that now if there never was a Source reboot of it. Perhaps if Deus Ex was remade on a new engine, you would be singing a different tune.:roll:

I love it!! to be honest I just started playing again.. I began some time ago but stopped. Its amazing everything about it is well done.. Im playing the game as a stealth character... its 2010 yet I dont care for the dated graphics since the gameplay truly shines

I respect it, but I never played much. I have both of the games. Maybe I'll try them out again sometime.

I have never played it. I might get it in the following days.

Prepare for a SkyWard judgement.

Loved it. My favorite games are usually those that accommodate for different play styles, and Dues Ex does that marvelously. The gunplay isn't great, but given the scope of the game its forgivable. The game also has a good story, some really cool missions, and great stealth, something that has been absent in genre-hybrids for far too long (except for maybe Batman AA)

It's my favorite game. I played through it again last summer and I was surprised at how much I still enjoyed it.

But it's also one of those games that I don't recommend to anyone anymore.

I think it's one of those love/hate games (as demonstrated by your poll), and in 2010 it's lot easier to hate it than to love it, so I'd rather not hear a bunch of complaints about graphics and what-not from the people I recommend it to. I will give this advice to anyone considering it, look at the screenshots before you buy the game because that's what you're getting. If you can't handle the way it looks in the screenshots, don't even bother.

smokeydabear076

Haha its not even about the graphics for me. I am not too far, but it seems rather bland and has archaic gameplay. Maybe its just me. I realize it is old, but I didnt first play MGS1 until a year ago and that game is a couple years older than Deus Ex, and so far I find it to be superior (my opinion). I realize that Deus Ex is more of an RPG than MGS, which makes me think I would love it, but certain things are bothering me I guess. In an RPG I want to feel cool when I level stuff up, and rather it seems the list of stuff to level is quite...uninteresting. I dont even get how I am awarded points for walking around into rooms :P. The gunplay is so slow and innacurate, and the movement makes you bob like you are a booie :P. I know I am crapping on it alot, but I can see why people love it, I just wish I could do. I am shocked I am not so far cause I love RPG's. The game reminds me of Perfect Dark, Half Life, and Metal Gear Solid in one RPG package.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Have you maxed out your weapons skills, or atleast until Advanced? Or used some recoil/accuracy/snipe etc. modifications that you can buy in the game from various shops? The game isn't focused on killing people, but on the atmosphere, i believe.

I have absolutely no problem at all headshooting soldiers with my 10mm pistol on Advanced with a few modifications, be it on the move or not, on the Medium difficulty.. I'm re-playing it right now, 2-3 hours a day.

I think a lot of people hate the game because they simply hate the graphics, which are heavily dated, and don't know that Deus Ex is NOT a traditional shooter, but more of a cyber-punk stealth-action that focuses on its atmosphere and story. Oh yeah, some voices-actors are plain silly, but i love it, so funny.

dos4gw82

ell, lets not generalize everything. First of all it does not take few shots in deus ex to bring someone down. Fallout 3 has done the "damage based" rpg aspect very well but my complain with deus ex is how the crosshair spreads wide open once you take one step forward. It could be done in a diffirent way that it becomes less wide when you walk or crouch and not constantly open every time you take a step forward no matter how slowly, till it finally spreas wide open.

Also standing still for 5 seconds for the crosshair to become small enough to actually hit something was stupid. Invisible war was just plain stupid because you could not do headshots either. So it was all about shoot, shoot and pause to heal the damage the npcs caused you, then go back into shooting endlessly till they die.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]

It's my favorite game. I played through it again last summer and I was surprised at how much I still enjoyed it.

But it's also one of those games that I don't recommend to anyone anymore.

I think it's one of those love/hate games (as demonstrated by your poll), and in 2010 it's lot easier to hate it than to love it, so I'd rather not hear a bunch of complaints about graphics and what-not from the people I recommend it to. I will give this advice to anyone considering it, look at the screenshots before you buy the game because that's what you're getting. If you can't handle the way it looks in the screenshots, don't even bother.

NaveedLife

Haha its not even about the graphics for me. I am not too far, but it seems rather bland and has archaic gameplay. Maybe its just me. I realize it is old, but I didnt first play MGS1 until a year ago and that game is a couple years older than Deus Ex, and so far I find it to be superior (my opinion). I realize that Deus Ex is more of an RPG than MGS, which makes me think I would love it, but certain things are bothering me I guess. In an RPG I want to feel cool when I level stuff up, and rather it seems the list of stuff to level is quite...uninteresting. I dont even get how I am awarded points for walking around into rooms :P. The gunplay is so slow and innacurate, and the movement makes you bob like you are a booie :P. I know I am crapping on it alot, but I can see why people love it, I just wish I could do. I am shocked I am not so far cause I love RPG's. The game reminds me of Perfect Dark, Half Life, and Metal Gear Solid in one RPG package.

As for MGS being superior to Deus Ex in the gameplay department, I don't agree with that. The ai is almost just as "simple", the gunplay in both isn't exceptional (but the shooting never bothered me in Deus Ex as I became "advanced" or a "master" with the weapons I used), and the stories/characters, to me, are both interesting. So overall, I think they are about even on technical merits. I guess MGS gets the upper hand with voice acting... but as far as gameplay goes I don't think it has any major advantage. Maybe I just played Deus Ex so much in the past that the weird shooting mechanics aren't "weird" to me anymore. And so, in my mind "bad shooting" is never a complaint, but I guess I can see why others don't like it.

I wish you could enjoy it the way I did (because I liked it a lot and still do), but it's not up to me to change your feelings on it... I don't think my words or anyone else's words can change your feelings about it, so I guess we'll just have to leave it at that. In the end, there's not a single game on this planet that will satisfy everyone. And that's just something we have to accept.

Ok i have to admit that while I was not blown away, I am enjoying what I just played much more than before :).

what! 58 people hated it?! That was unexpected. I suppose the same would be the case with Half-Life 2, Crysis, Call of Duty as well...chandu83

Ok i have to admit that while I was not blown away, I am enjoying what I just played much more than before :).

NaveedLife

Just play it until you get to Hong Kong, at least. I'll admit that your impressions are the same as i had a couple of years ago wen i first played it, so trust me. :P

And now? I'm currently playing it for the 3rd time.

But a warning, some of the missions will get a hell of a lot more complicated, not all, just a few.

Planing to start again, loved it back then. Finding a graphical mod for it would be a good thing,the game didn`t age well.

Surprising number of people who outright hated Deus Ex. Personally I view it as a seminal moment in video games, and certainly one of the finest games ever. It didn't do everything right and a lot of what it tried to do was sometimes frustrating, but it is one of a few games who have really tried to allow the player multiple ways to accomplish a given objective. Add to that a detailed and involving storyline across numerous locations, and it was definitely ahead of its time.

Surprising number of people who outright hated Deus Ex. Personally I view it as a seminal moment in video games, and certainly one of the finest games ever. It didn't do everything right and a lot of what it tried to do was sometimes frustrating, but it is one of a few games who have really tried to allow the player multiple ways to accomplish a given objective. Add to that a detailed and involving storyline across numerous locations, and it was definitely ahead of its time.

gbrading

It's funny because if the game wasn't as popular or well-praised as it is, I bet a lot of people would hate it less because they'd care less. Some people might not like it, but the fact that others do is what makes them condemn it more than they should.

It's by far the best game I've ever played. Do I need to say more?

I started playing it for the first time this year. I still haven't finished it, but I love it. The graphics are dated, but the game play and atmosphere are excellent. I like how open the game is; you can complete objectives in multiple, imaginative ways. After completing a particular part of the game, I'll often read a walkthrough and it's surprising how many variables there are. Usually, I will have missed something and often times I will have completed the mission in a different way than the walkthrough suggests.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Ok i have to admit that while I was not blown away, I am enjoying what I just played much more than before :).

Lucianu

Just play it until you get to Hong Kong, at least. I'll admit that your impressions are the same as i had a couple of years ago wen i first played it, so trust me. :P

And now? I'm currently playing it for the 3rd time.

But a warning, some of the missions will get a hell of a lot more complicated, not all, just a few.

I am almost in hong kong. The game is no doubt picking up and I am actually quite enjoying it. I think the game has a few too many problems though to be considered the godly game everyone says it is :P. I think a up to date version of Deus Ex would be great if it ever comes out...oh wait :P. I know most people say its going to suck, but I think it will be better overall. Maybe that is just me. The body mods seem (I have not actually used them :P) kind of lame. It is like crysis but it has the annoying charge that depletes and doesnt seem to regen? I guess I never get into leveling like that haha. That is just me though. I would prefer some cooler skills that are passive or I can use whenever.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Ok i have to admit that while I was not blown away, I am enjoying what I just played much more than before :).

NaveedLife

Just play it until you get to Hong Kong, at least. I'll admit that your impressions are the same as i had a couple of years ago wen i first played it, so trust me. :P

And now? I'm currently playing it for the 3rd time.

But a warning, some of the missions will get a hell of a lot more complicated, not all, just a few.

I am almost in hong kong. The game is no doubt picking up and I am actually quite enjoying it. I think the game has a few too many problems though to be considered the godly game everyone says it is :P. I think a up to date version of Deus Ex would be great if it ever comes out...oh wait :P. I know most people say its going to suck, but I think it will be better overall. Maybe that is just me. The body mods seem (I have not actually used them :P) kind of lame. It is like crysis but it has the annoying charge that depletes and doesnt seem to regen? I guess I never get into leveling like that haha. That is just me though. I would prefer some cooler skills that are passive or I can use whenever.

Body mods? Augmentations? :P

Well, if you spend your time searching around, you'll find plenty of augmentations, which are like passive skills that can be used any time, BUT, they do use bio energy, so you have to be wise wen to use them.

I got one that regenerates my health (ofc. after i deplete my bio energy i can't use that particular skill, but that bio-energy can be refilled any time with potion-like stuff that you can find around, as you know, just like mana in a fantasy rpg)

That doesn't make you invincible though. One headshot from the enemy, and you're gone.

There are a great number of fantastic augmentations that you can use.. the problem is finding them, though there are shops around for you to buy them.

I thought it was a good game, but the reason its praised so much around here is obvious nostalgia. Honestly, these kinds of games are much more dated then they are made out to be.