Diablo 3 - What would you like to see?

I know it's gonna be quite a while before we even start hearing definite things about this game, but sometimes it's just good to talk about it, get your feelings out, vent the angst. :):

After pouring hundreds of hours into Diablo 1 & 2 over the last decade, here's some things I'd like to see from Diablo 3:

-Bigger inventory system. Going from Diablo 2 to WoW was great as far as inventory choices went, as the former had no pants, shoulders, trinkets, etc. The more customization in this area, the better.

-Lots of areas with depth that aren't tied to the main A to B progression of the game. We got a lot of attempted areas like this such as the Pit, the Moldy Tomb, etc. But these areas had little to offer, and have always been pretty worthless as a whole, with a few small exceptions (Such as some good item run spots in previos patches, before monster levels were adjusted). I'd like for there to be some hidden bosses, unique areas, etc. that can only be experienced by going off the beaten path. Not simple reiterations of other places like them that have no practical use.

-No AR (Attack Rating). This was a simple annoyance most of the time, and some classes were rendered utterly useless by this, especially in hell, unless they had utterly Godly gear (And sometimes even that didn't help). Titan Quest got along just fine without it, and I didn't even miss the *swish* *swish* *clang* *swish* sound that my frenzy barbarian use to make.

-If there's going to be Alpha Items (Such as Enigma) then each class needs to have a fair shot at them, rather than one or two items being sought by every class.

-I hope that classes can interact a little more cooperatively in this game than they did the last. In Diablo 2 it was pretty much solo play with cooperative if you wanted to, but the classes didn't really mesh well. There were some bonuses that helped out a bit but the most cooperation you see out of people is in Baal runs where everyone knows to point at the same spot and spam their skills at the right time. It would be nice if skills in different classes complemented one another.

-I would like to see gold have an actual use again. Since Uniques were made virtually impossible to gamble, gold has lost all value in Diablo II. You might occasionally see a "1 million 4 P Skull" game or something along those lines, but that's just sad compared to what it used to be. And unfortunately that only increased the problem of having "common currency" items such as Hr (Higher) Runes, or Soj's, etc. being the ONLY thing that people wanted to trade for. Again, Titan Quest had a great implementation for gold, as it could be used to unsocket items, respec your skills, etc. And these services became increasingly more expensive as the game went on, so the necessity for having gold increased if anything.

-Some augmentation to the socket system. Most of the runes and gems were utterly pointless in anything except "Runeword" combos. I don't believe I've put a gem in a socket (except for chipped diamonds in an Act I shield from time to time), in five years. It would be nice to see good Runeword stuff, but have it be more on par or worse with found Uniques and Rares (Which I would also like to see re-emerge as being more useful, and get rid of the abundance of useless mods that plague rares now).

Add your thoughts please!

Strict and fast punishment for people running bots. It really devalues grinding when so many people bot overnight and get valuable items and runes for next to nothing. The entire D2 ladder that's going right now is based on people joining bot baal runs to reach end game fast.

I'd also like to see the grind from level 90 to 99 be much less painful. I'm pretty sure that is part of the reason why bots are synonymous with diablo 2.

Agreed. It'd be nice to NOT have everything focused on thousands of runs, and on getting to lvl 99 first.

less cheaters

I have doubts how blizzard can fight all the dupers, botters, spammers, maphackers and etc. 99% of the public game i joined, there is always someone cheating or using cheated-items (the white ones before 2004 patch and occy ring and etc.)

Strict and fast punishment for people running bots. It really devalues grinding when so many people bot overnight and get valuable items and runes for next to nothing. The entire D2 ladder that's going right now is based on people joining bot baal runs to reach end game fast.

I'd also like to see the grind from level 90 to 99 be much less painful. I'm pretty sure that is part of the reason why bots are synonymous with diablo 2.

True_Sounds

If they change the core game to not rely on bots, then it'll work out, as I said in my above post.

Does anyone still play Titan Quest? Hardly, it's a terrible excuse for a game. As if Blizzard would even think of copying that piece of trash.

I would like to see a release date. I am HOPING for a 2011 release but with blizzard who knows.

If they change the core game to not rely on bots, then it'll work out, as I said in my above post.

Does anyone still play Titan Quest? Hardly, it's a terrible excuse for a game. As if Blizzard would even think of copying that piece of trash.

True_Sounds

Forgive me if I point out the fact that the rest of the world disagrees with you. TQ got across the board good reviews. It was less than a point away here on Gamespot.

It has solid gameplay all the way, and when it was released its graphics were pretty phenomenal considering the genre. It improved upon a lot of things that Diablo 2 didn't quite get right, and just because you didn't like it doesn't mean others don't still play it. And there's no way you can hate TQ and love D2, as the gameplay is so similiar it's hardly even funny. Think before you speak.

Titan Quest just seemed like a terribly average game. The game has no soul. The monsters are boring. The character classes and spells are cliche. The quests and backstory were thought up by someone dearly lacking in the creativity department. Just what was so phenomenal about this game, that made it even comparable to the Diablo universe? I don't think the rest of the world disagrees with me. There are more diablo2 players than Titan Quest players, even though Titan Quest is a much more recent game.

It better look raw, gritty, evil, and not cartoony.

would a map editor work with diablo 3?

would a map editor work with diablo 3?

TheShadowLord07

not neccesarily, many of the enviroments are randomly generated so there isnt much use for it.

two words.. Deckard cain.. nuff siad.

super fighting old guy.. be super rotflmao to see him still alive and kicking.

the game come out within the next 10 years. seriously, they need to at least throw the fans a bone once and a while. no real news in such a damn long time. Crucifier

It's because of SC2, hopefully there will be something big at Blizzcon this year :).

This is completely random from what you are guys/girls are talking about but I would like to see the new 5th character as a Vampire. It would almost be a cross between the Druid & Necromancer. The Vampire could summon animals (bats, rats, wolves, snakes & so on), change into beasts (werebat & whatever things Vampires can change into), control the elements, ability to drain massive health & energy reserves from enemies, mind control OR change enemies into vampires to do his/her bidding & well so on & so forth. Anyways..... just had to get that off my mind. I've been running around with that idea for quite sometime but never took the opportunity to mention it. I doubt it would work but it would be cool to see Blizzard doing something unique like that.

Id like to see it on my shelf and some nice referal program with a discout for friends cause right now they are sceptical about Diablo 3.

Thing's I'd like to see implemented:

-More than 8 players per game, nuff said.

-PvP System Overhaul, lets see how Blizzard handles this one.

My wishes seems impossible:

-Support to 10 players at time.

-Support for vs team matches.

-A new paladin-like kind of character.

-No developement around the concept of port to consoles (pad interface).

Thing's I'd like to see implemented:

-More than 8 players per game, nuff said.

-PvP System Overhaul, lets see how Blizzard handles this one.

grafficsak

PvP is what I'm curious tho, imo it felt out of place in D2, it was just weird to pvp compared to pve. I already have my crew assembled and ready for action :D.

I doubt this could happen but I would love an arena mode with 5v5, but that would be like a mini DotA/Legue of Legends/HoN so I do hope for some mod tools or at least some ways to make modding possible.

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Thing's I'd like to see implemented:

-More than 8 players per game, nuff said.

-PvP System Overhaul, lets see how Blizzard handles this one.

DanielDust

PvP is what I'm curious tho, imo it felt out of place in D2, it was just weird to pvp compared to pve. I already have my crew assembled and ready for action :D.

I doubt this could happen but I would love an arena mode with 5v5, but that would be like a mini DotA/Legue of Legends/HoN so I do hope for some mod tools or at least some ways to make modding possible.

Communication fail in bound. He said 8 players, not 8 classes.

Can't say I cared much for PVP in Diablo 2, no purpose other than people being **** and you had to have your character carried both leveling and gear-wise. That and pvp "balances" often jacked up pve in a game where pvp should never have been equated with pve on the scale of importance.

A modding SDK.

I want them to play THIS song at the ending credits!

I am being deadly serious.

Weeeelll its only 4 players in a group now for each game...

But if i understand it there is going to be more "modes" or types of game or whatever O.o

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Thing's I'd like to see implemented:

-More than 8 players per game, nuff said.

-PvP System Overhaul, lets see how Blizzard handles this one.

snared04

PvP is what I'm curious tho, imo it felt out of place in D2, it was just weird to pvp compared to pve. I already have my crew assembled and ready for action :D.

I doubt this could happen but I would love an arena mode with 5v5, but that would be like a mini DotA/Legue of Legends/HoN so I do hope for some mod tools or at least some ways to make modding possible.

Communication fail in bound. He said 8 players, not 8 classes.

Can't say I cared much for PVP in Diablo 2, no purpose other than people being **** and you had to have your character carried both leveling and gear-wise. That and pvp "balances" often jacked up pve in a game where pvp should never have been equated with pve on the scale of importance.

I have never played Diablo 1 or 2 , but I will certainly play Diablo 3 .

Naked bat women with whips...

Like this, but with more naked.

Proper, balanced PvP. (That is to say, nothing like that garbage present in D2.)

I have a feeling Blizzard is going to spend a good amount of time on this, after seeing what they've done with the arena aspect of World of Warcraft, and seeing how much competitive play added to the life and popularity of Starcraft. They'd be idiots not to put far more thought into PvP than they did with Diablo 2.

This would probably mean the implementation of some sort of structured gametypes, rather than simple dueling (as it's much, much harder to balance for the latter.) Maybe something like capture the flag, or something even more strategy-oriented like territory control/"domination" type matches. Or even structured PvE type game modes (i.e. a wave-oriented "survival" mode with increasingly difficult monsters) ..I'd love to see stuff like this.

A bit more balanced PvP , so ppl wouldnt need to call half necromancer spells BM , nor half other stuff which is ing..

As for pvm... dunno , more items , but less grinding needed to get anything good . Teleport should be removed permanent .

And most important HARD UBERS , not the joke that they are now... I want excitement where you kill them with your last pots and hp points , not solo like some casuall boss.

P.S. please no more Hammerdins or Lightning sorc with infinity merc...

Optimization.. beautiful sound... (including a great soundtrack, although it isn't composed by Matt Uelmen.) A game like this needs excellent sound.

Thats what I look forward to alot of in diablo. (other than what a lot of others have stated)

If they change the core game to not rely on bots, then it'll work out, as I said in my above post.

Does anyone still play Titan Quest? Hardly, it's a terrible excuse for a game. As if Blizzard would even think of copying that piece of trash.

True_Sounds

A 3D version of Diablo 2 :D

-I would like to see gold have an actual use again. Since Uniques were made virtually impossible to gamble, gold has lost all value in Diablo II. You might occasionally see a "1 million 4 P Skull" game or something along those lines, but that's just sad compared to what it used to be. And unfortunately that only increased the problem of having "common currency" items such as Hr (Higher) Runes, or Soj's, etc. being the ONLY thing that people wanted to trade for. Again, Titan Quest had a great implementation for gold, as it could be used to unsocket items, respec your skills, etc. And these services became increasingly more expensive as the game went on, so the necessity for having gold increased if anything.

-Some augmentation to the socket system. Most of the runes and gems were utterly pointless in anything except "Runeword" combos. I don't believe I've put a gem in a socket (except for chipped diamonds in an Act I shield from time to time), in five years. It would be nice to see good Runeword stuff, but have it be more on par or worse with found Uniques and Rares (Which I would also like to see re-emerge as being more useful, and get rid of the abundance of useless mods that plague rares now).

Add your thoughts please!

snared04

Gold has low use because the monetary units are the runes, specially the high ones. And ALL runes are usefull, since the Horadric Cube can transmute ruenes into other runes and both runewords and crafted items are uber useful -in fact, runewords are the most powerful items in the game-.

My main wish to Diablo III is support to 10 players at time, not five.

My main wish to Diablo III is support to 10 players at time, not five.

Ondoval

My guess is that we will see game modes...

Dueling

CTF / Team death match

Co-op

Trading and so on :O

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would a map editor work with diablo 3?

cobrax25

not neccesarily, many of the enviroments are randomly generated so there isnt much use for it.

That said, I would still love to make my own maps in a Diablo game, and if they some how figure out a way to make it fair then they could just make it an item or a waypoint, which takes you through a portal into your map rather than integrating it with the game itself - thereby removing any problems with randomization. Just think of it as being the secret cow level, once it's done there's no where else to go.

Some other things I'd like to see in this game, or at least I think I'd like, are item penalties... sometimes these can be a pain, but if done right it can present some rather interesting elements to the game. I'm thinking something like a sword that can hit two targets at a time (without special attacks), but you move slower with it equipped. Stuff like that. It's nothing too extreme and it's up to the player to determine whether or not the benefits out weigh the risks. It would also open up more opportunities for specific/unique builds.

A new type of magic finding would be nice too... this is one I'm not 100% sure about, as searching for items was one of my favorite things to do, but I hope they find a way to make it more interesting.

Also, following how it was in D2, I think this time the yellow items should be called Uniques instead of rare and they should be the most powerful, meanwhile what was called unique in D2 should be called "Legendary" instead and these items should also be up there in terms of power. This makes the most sense to me.

Then I had an idea about a treasure map, which I posted some time ago. I don't want to go into the details, but I think they are doing something simliar already.

Probably the main thing I'd like to see, is A) all the skills can be useful B) there are many potential character builds because every skill is valuable C) and not one of them is the "best" or at least there is no super over-powered build. Of course that's probably not gonna happen, but it would be cool.

An arena mod would be awesome, the rest I don't know, do CTF or TDM really fit in such a game?

As for a "trading" mode lol

Hey Ipwnnoobs1337, wanna trade some cards?
Sure I have one iron gollem and a super rare zombie, so what's it gonna be?
Nah thx but I have them all, but you wanna duel?
Sure!

Mephisto I choose you
........Ipwnnoobs1337 chooses Andariel
Mephisto use Blizzard
Andariel evades
etc

Yeah I know it wasn't what you wanted to say but :P anyway a mode just for trading is useless imo, you can do that anytime you want in the actual CO-OP game.

Agreed. It'd be nice to NOT have everything focused on thousands of runs, and on getting to lvl 99 first.

snared04

Given the emphasis on loot finding, I feel my proposed item system would be more exciting, since "uniques" would truly be unique. However, I doubt they'll do any of the stuff I'd like to see.

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]My main wish to Diablo III is support to 10 players at time, not five.

StopThePresses

1) Difficult scales with the amount of players.

2) With 5 players the team duels are over. And dueling is the ultimate challenge in Diablo II LOD.

An arena mod would be awesome, the rest I don't know, do CTF or TDM really fit in such a game?DanielDust

I think so! So long as it isn't separated out from the main game (i.e. you can do both normal campaign games and competitive gametypes with the same character from the lobby.)

They could utilize a scoring system for gear stats+player level to create matchmaking brackets. You should also get experience from participating, to get rid of those idiot "twinks" who try to maximize their character for a specific bracket for easy wins. It would also make leveling a character a bit more interesting..since you wouldn't be restricted to playing through the same quests you've done a million times before (PvP is much less repetitive.)

It would also add more an end-game goal..getting into those upper brackets and competing with fully-matured character builds.

Balancing individual gametypes, they could do things like restrict teleport or speed-enhancing skills when flag carrying (would put emphasis on teamwork; teammates would have to defend the flag carrier as enemy classes could quickly catch up using such skills.)

They could also place recharging powerup shrines on a timer, or persistent capturable objectives that provide passive bonuses to to add elements of map control.

I think it would work quite well, and it's exciting to think about the possibilities.

An arena mod would be awesome, the rest I don't know, do CTF or TDM really fit in such a game?

As for a "trading" mode lol

Hey Ipwnnoobs1337, wanna trade some cards?
Sure I have one iron gollem and a super rare zombie, so what's it gonna be?
Nah thx but I have them all, but you wanna duel?
Sure!

Mephisto I choose you
........Ipwnnoobs1337 chooses Andariel
Mephisto use Blizzard
Andariel evades
etc

Yeah I know it wasn't what you wanted to say but :P anyway a mode just for training is useless imo, you can do that anytime you want in the actual CO-OP game.

DanielDust

Useless and a waste of time, it's like making a mode for...shopping from vendors, but it would be awesome if they'd make a kind of auction house/shop that would be able to get data from all servers and all realms, but there is a problem, it would make things easier and in the end it would only hurt the game.

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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]My main wish to Diablo III is support to 10 players at time, not five.

Ondoval

1) Difficult scales with the amount of players.

2) With 5 players the team duels are over. And dueling is the ultimate challenge in Diablo II LOD.

2) I think PvP in Diablo II is pointless. While I'm not saying that other people shouldn't have their fun, I don't want PvP considerations to trump PvE in any case.

Maybe... maybe not ;)... Alot of games on Diablo 2 is "trading" games right now...

Oh well i would like to see some epic items... lots of fun... Free cookies and more game modes...

Pvp / pve / trading / (new things?)