Diablo 3...mind numbingly simple?

I have never played the Diablo series but a couple of my friends were begging me to download the beta and play "co-op" with them so I did. I gotta say...never before have I been so puzzled at how a game is so popular.

I loaded it up and thought it was cool. Characters and classes seemed interesting, good music, good atmosphere...and then once I actually got into the game I honestly started laughing. The graphics, the combat, the animations and the characters...are all so bad? I mean how is this a 2012 title being made by arguably one of the most successful and reputable PC developers out there? It blew me away at how into it some of my buddies were and how they were simply astonished at how I did not like the game.

My main problem is that the game is...barely a game. You left/right click to move/attack and that is all there is to it. I intentionally never even used a skill on my skill bar or bothered to equip any new loot and I was just spamming my mouse buttons and killing everything. Other than some somewhat impressive skill effects, how is this even in the least bit entertaining? My buddies were saying that the "fun is in the loot", but there was so much loot being thrown at me and so many drops that I was annoyed by constantly re-quipping and comparing my overloaded inventory.

I also fail to see how story or narrative is going to carry the game considering how WoWified and bland the atmosphere of the game is. I recall Diablo 2 looking far more inspired and horror esque than Diablo 3.

I agree completely, I have not played D1 or D2, so am not blinded by nostalgia, I found the game laughable for a 2012 title as well, no wonder it has been delayed so long it is a total terd.

I recall Diablo 2 looking far more inspired and horror esque than Diablo 3.chandlerr_360

I just got the beta and, so far im having fun with it. I have just been playing by myself, but if you were playing with friends it would be alot better.

I just got the beta and, so far im having fun with it. I have just been playing by myself, but if you were playing with friends it would be alot better.

KABCOOL

I agree completely, I have not played D1 or D2, so am not blinded by nostalgia, I found the game laughable for a 2012 title as well, no wonder it has been delayed so long it is a total terd.

Advid-Gamer

I didn't know simply playing a game means you have nsotalgia for it. That's piss-poor reasoning.

Game is fine. Don't know what you guys were expecting. Did you really expect the tutorial level of the game to be in-depth and challenging?

Actually you would be surprised. The game is FAR less challenging with friends because of how simply you kill everything on screen. chandlerr_360

World scales up difficulty with more players.

I was a massive fan of Diablo and Diablo 2 (been playing d2 on bnet since 2000, and as recently as a couple months ago), and I completely agree. I've been playing the d3 beta, and the combat and leveling system is completely dumbed down to the point that nothing matters at all. And yeah, I like the basic art direction, but the graphics and animations are extremely sub-par compared to what can (and should) be expected from a 2012 game, by blizzard. I think Starcraft 2 actually looks better. It's still a bit of fun, I'd say, and I'm interested enough in the story, and in the prospect of better loot and enemies later on, that I'll still play the hell out of it when it comes out. I did consider cancelling my preorder, though. I actually would cancel my preorder if I had been super excited about the monk. I don't know if anyone here has been on the D3 forums, but they are in an uproar (rightfully so) about how the animations for the monk are just completely retarded. Like, sloppy, unfinished game status.

My buddy reminded me that Torchlight was made by the same team that was behind Hellgate London, which was the team behind Diablo 1 and 2. So I'm definitely going to check that out, as well.

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"] I recall Diablo 2 looking far more inspired and horror esque than Diablo 3.SF_KiLLaMaN

I like the basic art direction, but the graphics and animations are extremely sub-par compared to what can (and should) be expected from a 2012 game, by blizzard.

the_bi99man

The only "amazing" graphical qualities you should see from Blizzard would be in their CGI. Everybody should know by now that Blizzard doesn't push graphical boundries on purpose.

What goggles are you wearing? Diablo 3 looks like WoW. Blizzard is incapable of a different artstyle.KHAndAnime

What goggles are you wearing? Nothing about it resembles WoW.

Why can't simple be regarded as fun? biggest_loser

Congratulation TC! You dominated the tutorial!

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Why can't simple be regarded as fun? KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Why can't simple be regarded as fun? biggest_loser

EDIT: Actually, that's incredibly unfair of me to say. Their RTS games are plenty complicated. It's just everything they've done in the RPG genre I find to be a little too simplistic.

I agree that Diablo 3 is really simple. It feels even more simple than Diablo 1. There isn't at one point where I had to stop and think. As for Diablo 1, I have to stop and think every time I see that square torture room containing The Butcher.KHAndAnime

I agree that Diablo 3 is really simple. It feels even more simple than Diablo 1. There isn't at one point where I had to stop and think. As for Diablo 1, I have to stop and think every time I see that square torture room containing The Butcher.KHAndAnime

Because tutorials require you to stop and think, right?

Trust me, it will get much deeper when you have access to the full game. The beta shows off very little of what Diablo will offer. You are capped at level 13 and certain types of items don't even drop. Wait till the full release comes out till you pass judgement.

Trust me, it will get much deeper when you have access to the full game. The beta shows off very little of what Diablo will offer. You are capped at level 13 and certain types of items don't even drop. Wait till the full release comes out till you pass judgement.

arto1223

This is what makes me lagh at this thread.

Its basically a tutorial in the beta. Diablo2 got much better after act 1 also. There will be ywa more spells, levels, difficulties,etc.. in the full game. This is just the very begining.

Cracks me up how peopel can pass full judgement on a game based on a demo or beta that shows such a small part of a huge game.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Why can't simple be regarded as fun? KHAndAnime

That's why I played Tetris and PopCap games only once!

[QUOTE="arto1223"]

Trust me, it will get much deeper when you have access to the full game. The beta shows off very little of what Diablo will offer. You are capped at level 13 and certain types of items don't even drop. Wait till the full release comes out till you pass judgement.

kozzy1234

This is what makes me lagh at this thread.

Its basically a tutorial in the beta. Diablo2 got much better after act 1 also. There will be ywa more spells, levels, difficulties,etc.. in the full game. This is just the very begining.

Cracks me up how peopel can pass full judgement on a game based on a demo or beta that shows such a small part of a huge game.

I agree - the beta seemed WAY too easy. But besides that, the skill trees don't even seem to make a difference. Do you ever actually have to DECIDE what skill you want? It just seemed like every few levels you got a new skill and you never choose to focus on 1 particular skill or attack style. I played the monk and the witch doctor. The witch doctor was "right click, left click, left, left, left, left" and the monk was "left, left, right, left, left, right"

Do you ever actually have to DECIDE what skill you want? It just seemed like every few levels you got a new skill and you never choose to focus on 1 particular skill or attack style.

i_am_the_slime

I think that's your problem, not the game's:P

Of course you have the ability to focus on specific builds. New skills and runes are not better, just different.

Even in the limited beta selection you can do that. For example, the Monk can be a healer, a very mobile crowd control character or a c1assic tank. Witch Doctor can be used for slowing down enemies, can focus on summoning or can jump straight in the action with offensive skills.

You beat the tutorial level on normal. Congratulations. The fact that you haven't played D2 makes the rest of your post invalid because you would know what to expect in the later acts. Also I can't believe people thing a complicated game makes it better. Some people's logic is just stupid.

This game is not even Diablo. For starters where's the adult content and atmosphere of the previoius two titles? No Butcher this time, instead we get a "skeleton king" . it plays and looks like a saturday morning cartoon. And yes you're right the graphics and animations are third rate, it's something which you expect from a web game or Xbox live arcade. No wonder they give this game away for free with a tweleve month WOW sub because that's exactly the type of game it is. It reminds me of a Free 2 play game.

Congratulation TC! You dominated the tutorial!

MacBoomStick

This game is not even Diablo. For starters where's the adult content and atmosphere of the previoius two titles? No Butcher this time, instead we get a "skeleton king" . it plays and looks like a saturday morning cartoon. And yes you're right the graphics and animations are third rate, it's something which you expect from a web game or Xbox live arcade. No wonder they give this game away for free with a tweleve month WOW sub because that's exactly the type of game it is. It reminds me of a Free 2 play game.

ShimmerMan

*SPOILER LINK*

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/act-bosses-confirmed

I don't think you can shove your foot in your mouth any more. You should at least know what you're talking about before you try to bash something. That goes for everythiing in life...not just video games.

This game is not even Diablo. For starters where's the adult content and atmosphere of the previoius two titles? No Butcher this time, instead we get a "skeleton king" . it plays and looks like a saturday morning cartoon. And yes you're right the graphics and animations are third rate, it's something which you expect from a web game or Xbox live arcade. No wonder they give this game away for free with a tweleve month WOW sub because that's exactly the type of game it is. It reminds me of a Free 2 play game.

ShimmerMan

I just got the beta today and so I like it and like how it plays like never winter nights but the graphics seem dated which I can look past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0F2wPZWdYk

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"] I recall Diablo 2 looking far more inspired and horror esque than Diablo 3.KHAndAnime

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"] I recall Diablo 2 looking far more inspired and horror esque than Diablo 3.KHAndAnime

Hahaha the game looks like a friggin Anime, anyone who thinks this game looks dark or remotely anything like adult entertainment has serious problems. I can name dozens of problems with this game, from the Demon Hutners stupid Rapid fire which looks like he's firing a Howitzer from a crossbow. To the ridiculous and over-used physics. The bad animations that go across the board and infect almost every aspect of the game. And this is not even getting into the dialogue and the story which is also just as brain dead ( hilariously so). IE the Blacksmith murdering his wife and then calmly saying "Thanks I couldn't of done that without you". how the hell did Cain survive having a meteor land on his head anyway? haha Wtf is going on with this game it's completely childish.

[QUOTE="KABCOOL"]

I just got the beta and, so far im having fun with it. I have just been playing by myself, but if you were playing with friends it would be alot better.

chandlerr_360

Hahaha the game looks like a friggin Anime, anyone who thinks this game looks dark or remotely anything like adult entertainment has serious problems.ShimmerMan

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I agree that Diablo 3 is really simple. It feels even more simple than Diablo 1. There isn't at one point where I had to stop and think. As for Diablo 1, I have to stop and think every time I see that square torture room containing The Butcher.Prexxus

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I agree that Diablo 3 is really simple. It feels even more simple than Diablo 1. There isn't at one point where I had to stop and think. As for Diablo 1, I have to stop and think every time I see that square torture room containing The Butcher.ChubbyGuy40

Because tutorials require you to stop and think, right?

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Why can't simple be regarded as fun? Baranga

That's why I played Tetris and PopCap games only once!

Uh...a lot of them do actually. Which is even sadder for D3. ;)KHAndAnime

Name one that isn't a simulator.

Hahaha the game looks like a friggin Anime, anyone who thinks this game looks dark or remotely anything like adult entertainment has serious problems. I can name dozens of problems with this game, from the Demon Hutners stupid Rapid fire which looks like he's firing a Howitzer from a crossbow. To the ridiculous and over-used physics. The bad animations that go across the board and infect almost every aspect of the game. And this is not even getting into the dialogue and the story which is also just as brain dead ( hilariously so). IE the Blacksmith murdering his wife and then calmly saying "Thanks I couldn't of done that without you". how the hell did Cain survive having a meteor land on his head anyway? haha Wtf is going on with this game it's completely childish.

ShimmerMan

Congratulation TC! You dominated the tutorial!

MacBoomStick

Lol this.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Disagree.. If anything especially the forest scenes, its much darker than the second game whcih looks like it was colored in by crayons.. Not to mention the amazing death effects on creatures like the zombies with blood and body parts flying every where.. SF_KiLLaMaN