Diablo III port, PC ports in general

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for Decrate
Decrate

1731

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#1 Decrate
Member since 2004 • 1731 Posts
PC gamers love when they are treated fairly, such was the case with bioware and dragon age origins. despite being a multi platform game, the PC kept true to the original formula of a challenging topdown game with intuitive controls that were many times more complex than the console version but still just as, if not more, fun. graphics were vastly different when compared, PC kept the insanely high details when it could of settled for lower resolution textures and thus saving graphic designers time, and thus saving money for the company. if blizzard does the same thing as bioware, I will be happy anyways, the point of this thread is, porting PC games to consoles is fine, so long as it's done that way, from PC to consoles, not the other way around. I just feel that activision is breathing down blizzards neck putting pressure to simply make more money, which could result in the PC version getting dumbed down, which would make me sad :( what do you guys think, blizzard hasn't let me down yet
Avatar image for madrocketeer
madrocketeer

11207

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -6

User Lists: 0

#2 madrocketeer
Member since 2005 • 11207 Posts
I wouldn't worry about that yet. From reading various interviews with Activision's people, it seems they've kept Blizzard very independent. The general impression was; "We do our thing, Blizzard do their thing, we don't get involved in each other's business." Which means Blizzard exploring the possibility of porting Diablo III to consoles came solely out of their own volition. And why not? Having played Champions of Norrath on the PS2, I think Diablo-style games would work fantastically on consoles with the minimal of modification to game mechanics. In fact, I not only hope they port Diablo III to consoles, I hope they bring the gamepad controls back to the PC version, just as an option.
Avatar image for the_ChEeSe_mAn2
the_ChEeSe_mAn2

8463

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#3 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
Member since 2003 • 8463 Posts
As long as the PC version doesn't get compromised because of console development (either porting or alongside), I don't care if Diablo 3 gets ported to consoles.
Avatar image for Farkeman
Farkeman

1199

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 Farkeman
Member since 2009 • 1199 Posts
lol , pc version is always getting compromised , devs never do more work than they need to do , most of the time devs just release the same version of the console game with some easy addable features like dedicated servers etc...
Avatar image for Baranga
Baranga

14217

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#5 Baranga
Member since 2005 • 14217 Posts

Sacred 2 was good on consoles.

They're just now looking for people with console experience for "a Diablo-related project". If it's a port, it'll be a late one and the PC game will not suffer. If it's not, who cares?

Avatar image for TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#6 TerrorRizzing
Member since 2010 • 4232 Posts

starcraft and diablo were on console, look at how terrible those games turned out!

Avatar image for bionicle_lover
bionicle_lover

4501

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 bionicle_lover
Member since 2005 • 4501 Posts

wasnt diablo ported to the ps1? i remember seeing it in blockbuster.

anyway, i agree that diablo3 should be at least somewhere down the line in development, so i dont really see a problem if it keeps the way it is in the trailers. Besides the interface, im not sure what else they can do to accomodate for the consoles that they cant just fix for the pc with the unlimted time they have because blizzard hates release date info.

Avatar image for deactivated-5a61a463b062f
deactivated-5a61a463b062f

274

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#8 deactivated-5a61a463b062f
Member since 2010 • 274 Posts
As long as the PC version doesn't get compromised because of console development (either porting or alongside), I don't care if Diablo 3 gets ported to consoles.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Sacred 2 was good on consoles.

They're just now looking for people with console experience for "a Diablo-related project". If it's a port, it'll be a late one and the PC game will not suffer. If it's not, who cares?

Baranga
This is what matters. As long as console porting doesn't hinder the PC version, let them do it.
Avatar image for TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#9 TerrorRizzing
Member since 2010 • 4232 Posts
[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]As long as the PC version doesn't get compromised because of console development (either porting or alongside), I don't care if Diablo 3 gets ported to consoles.CrookedCrown

Sacred 2 was good on consoles.

They're just now looking for people with console experience for "a Diablo-related project". If it's a port, it'll be a late one and the PC game will not suffer. If it's not, who cares?

Baranga
This is what matters. As long as console porting doesn't hinder the PC version, let them do it.

most of the time it doesnt, games are just getting simpler in general. Everyone just always wants to blame consoles.
Avatar image for deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
deactivated-5bda06edf37ee

4675

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#10 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
Member since 2010 • 4675 Posts
Diablo 3 is not getting dumbed down, cos it's being ported from PC to consoles. I bet the PC content is nearly done by now. It's also not that heavy graphically, so they might actually make it work at 1080p for consoles.
Avatar image for bionicle_lover
bionicle_lover

4501

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11 bionicle_lover
Member since 2005 • 4501 Posts

now that i think about it, the only way a console port of d3 can make me mad is if it delays the release date. not that they have one, but I'm sure they have an idea right now as to roughly when.

Avatar image for millerlight89
millerlight89

18658

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#12 millerlight89
Member since 2007 • 18658 Posts

most of the time it doesnt, games are just getting simpler in general. Everyone just always wants to blame consoles.TerrorRizzing
Well it is not the actual consoles's fault, but it does have to do with the console players and catering to their tastes. Not all developers do this, but it does play a role.

Avatar image for dakan45
dakan45

18819

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#13 dakan45
Member since 2009 • 18819 Posts
Honestly? What is to dumb down in diablo 3? As for dragon age 2? Newsflash, The second will be consolized because the first sold more on consoles.
Avatar image for TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#14 TerrorRizzing
Member since 2010 • 4232 Posts
[QUOTE="dakan45"]Honestly? What is to dumb down in diablo 3? As for dragon age 2? Newsflash, The second will be consolized because the first sold more on consoles.

dragon age 2 was destined to be dumbed down no matter what, and Im pretty sure the sales were pretty close in the long term for either one console and pc.
Avatar image for dakan45
dakan45

18819

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#15 dakan45
Member since 2009 • 18819 Posts
I am just saying what bioware said. Now i dont know if blizzard will follow this tactic but making a console version is propably gonna lead them there eventually.
Avatar image for Moloch121
Moloch121

677

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#16 Moloch121
Member since 2008 • 677 Posts
Since Blizzard is in charge (well of course) I think it's safe to assume Diablo III will be great and released when they feel its ready and come on it's Blizzard they have high standards!
Avatar image for TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#17 TerrorRizzing
Member since 2010 • 4232 Posts
I am just saying what bioware said. Now i dont know if blizzard will follow this tactic but making a console version is propably gonna lead them there eventually.dakan45
ya I read that foreign pr interview, but until the doctors come out and say so I call bs... Plus im sure the pc version of mass effect 2 sold much better than its version of mass effect 1... something to think about. Blizzard have done the console thing before, but they always have alot of love for the pc since they can do what they want the way they want there. Even kotick seems to like the pc, he hates that microsoft makes money on xbox live thanks to call of duty. I see big changes in the way we play games in the next 5-10 years, alot of it is the kinda stuff most here choose to ignore. who will need a console when you can play your games on pretty much any open platform you choose?
Avatar image for dakan45
dakan45

18819

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 13

User Lists: 0

#18 dakan45
Member since 2009 • 18819 Posts
I just would like to say something that kinds falls in to the what you said and the purpuse of the thread. (ports in general) One other user said in the past : "One can argue that Demiurge made a much better port of mass effect than bioware made a port of mass effect 2" As i said before that user say that sentence. Mass effect 1 was a better port than 2. The truth is that when it comes to console ports and pc versions, the quality standards are usually lowered in the future. I believe that dragon age 2 and future games in general will have pc versions with inferior quality. In the end what i am saying is that maybe mass effect 2 sold better than 1 on pc but gamedevelopers have a habbit of trying to bother with the pc version as less as they can as long the money coming in....that is until someone complains and they decide to make them more pc oriented in the future. (mw2-black ops) In conclusion we are in for something radical diffirent in the next 5-10 years depending where the industry decides to play its cards.
Avatar image for AFBrat77
AFBrat77

26848

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#19 AFBrat77
Member since 2004 • 26848 Posts

Since Blizzard is in charge (well of course) I think it's safe to assume Diablo III will be great and released when they feel its ready and come on it's Blizzard they have high standards!Moloch121

Agreed, Blizzard has a great track record for keeping their games at a high quality level.

Avatar image for lawlessx
lawlessx

48753

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#20 lawlessx
Member since 2004 • 48753 Posts
[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="dakan45"]Honestly? What is to dumb down in diablo 3? As for dragon age 2? Newsflash, The second will be consolized because the first sold more on consoles.

dragon age 2 was destined to be dumbed down no matter what, and Im pretty sure the sales were pretty close in the long term for either one console and pc.

bioware has stated that the game sold alot more on the consoles than it did on the PC and that it's the main reason why they went for the changes in DA2.
Avatar image for supdotcom
supdotcom

1121

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 supdotcom
Member since 2010 • 1121 Posts

I don't really care if they port to consoles, as long as it doesn't mean the pc version needs to get dumbed down for the consoles.

Avatar image for mhofever
mhofever

3960

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 52

User Lists: 0

#22 mhofever
Member since 2008 • 3960 Posts

I've never seen Blizzard dumb down any of their games, so I don't reckon they will if they ever released their games on the consoles.

Avatar image for Sokol4ever
Sokol4ever

6717

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#23 Sokol4ever
Member since 2007 • 6717 Posts

I've never seen Blizzard dumb down any of their games, so I don't reckon they will if they ever released their games on the consoles.

mhofever

There is a simple answer to that - Blizzard is quality developer, to the core. Those folks could make amazing game on console without compromising PC.

So can Bioware and Dragon Age: Origins was a perfect example. The question remains, when will it happen. I don't see any other company, then Blizzard, who could still stay simply PC to gather required profit. Maybe Valve, however they already made good sales with Orange Box and Left 4 Dead series on console, even thou PC versions are top quality.

Time will tell, I'd love to see PC being developed for properly, very few companies still offer that aspect unfortunately.

The Witcher 2 should be superb and I have no doubt Diablo III will shine, as it always did.

Avatar image for deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
deactivated-5bda06edf37ee

4675

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#24 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
Member since 2010 • 4675 Posts

I've never seen Blizzard dumb down any of their games, so I don't reckon they will if they ever released their games on the consoles.

mhofever
duh... why would've they dumbed down any of their games when they were PC only? this is the first time they are making a multiplatform game. sure there were SNES games, but even they were SNES only. but again; console versions might be stripped/dumbed down versions of what we get for PC, but it doesn't affect the PC version, if it's been made first (meaning; with PC's terms.). even so, in this case, i don't think they have to touch anything else than controls, and to make fonts/interfaces bigger for TVs.
Those folks could make amazing game on console without compromising PC.Sokol4ever
actually, they can't. that's why they are currently hiring console experts.
Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#25 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts

What would there be to dumb down with Diablo 3? It doesn't get much more simple than hitting mouse buttons to attack and clicking hotbars for specials.

I really don't understand the angst PC gamers are having with the idea that Diablo 3 will probably come out on the consoles. It's a win for everyone.

Avatar image for Dantus12
Dantus12

231

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26 Dantus12
Member since 2010 • 231 Posts

The issues with porting are the following:

Console gamers ,most of them are unaware that porting from PC to console when done in a competent way is a better experience for them visually.Porting from console to PC without delaying the PC release never goes well on PC.No one is willing to delay a game however, because it misses the marketing hype.

DAO recieved so many complaints regarding the controls on consoles,and I`m very shore that they will not be able to do it properly even this time,simply because the engine is fit as my grandma in her late 90`s.I`t will be better but far away from the abilities that other games are showing on consoles.

This is greed however,it all cost money.ME came out 6 months latter to PC and was a great port,ME2 was a parallel development and release and was a lousy port,still a good game.

Splinter Cell Conviction was recently the lazziest port I played in a long time.

Diablo is not a demanding game,if they do it properly, scaling down for consoles wont be a big problem,because even the control sheme is simple.

Avatar image for Daytona_178
Daytona_178

14962

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#27 Daytona_178
Member since 2005 • 14962 Posts

Well as its a PC exclusive at this point I dont think we need to worry about anything.

Avatar image for Gamerz1569
Gamerz1569

2087

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 Gamerz1569
Member since 2008 • 2087 Posts

Diablo 3 is not confirmed for consoles. Generally I don't care if a game is on multiple platforms or not as long as the game is not compromised for the consoles' lack of power and controller limitations. I hate simplified complex pc games.

Avatar image for nameless12345
nameless12345

15125

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 nameless12345
Member since 2010 • 15125 Posts

PC to console ports usually suck. Diablo 3 looks like a game that could work on the consoles well enough, with some compromises here and there. And Blizzard already said they are mainly focusing on the PC version. So only PC fanboys can be sad if it comes to consoles too (since it won't be PC exclusive anymore).

Avatar image for dere222321
dere222321

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 dere222321
Member since 2004 • 25 Posts

now correct me if im wrong but in order to play diablo 3 online as that is a key aspect of the game. Would be to play on battle.net which as far as i know is only on pc.

How would you play battle.net on Live or PSN

dere222321

Avatar image for Ondoval
Ondoval

3103

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#32 Ondoval
Member since 2005 • 3103 Posts

Diablo III is not going to be released in consoles. Not this gen, at lest.

Avatar image for dere222321
dere222321

25

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 dere222321
Member since 2004 • 25 Posts

Now correct me if I'm mistaken but how would you play Diablo III Online without Battle.Net. As far as I Know you can only do that on pc and if you could play it on X-Box 360 or PS3 how would that work on Live or PSN

Avatar image for pelvist
pelvist

9001

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#34 pelvist
Member since 2010 • 9001 Posts

This is the way I see it, if a game is being developed with consoles in mind then wont the developers be inclined to drop things from the game or dumb down some aspect of the game because it might not work well on consoles?

Im not just talking about graphics, physics, hours of gameplay, lighting or sound but also the gameplay itself, PC games in the past have been noobified to make them easier for console gamers to play (Supcom 2, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six ect.) and thats what I have come to expect from all games that are being developed with consoles in mind. Some of my favorite PC game franchises have been ruined over the past few years and now, with Activision breathing down Blizzards neck I honestly dont know what to expect from Diablo III, this game has gone from being my most anticipated game and a definate buy, to a "humm ill just wait and see how it turns out."

Avatar image for deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
deactivated-6127ced9bcba0

31700

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#35 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
Member since 2006 • 31700 Posts

This is the way I see it, if a game is being developed with consoles in mind then wont the developers be inclined to drop things from the game or dumb down some aspect of the game because it might not work well on consoles?

Im not just talking about graphics, physics, hours of gameplay, lighting or sound but also the gameplay itself, PC games in the past have been noobified to make them easier for console gamers to play (Supcom 2, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six ect.) and thats what I have come to expect from all games that are being developed with consoles in mind. Some of my favorite PC game franchises have been ruined over the past few years and now, with Activision breathing down Blizzards neck I honestly dont know what to expect from Diablo III, this game has gone from being my most anticipated game and a definate buy, to a "humm ill just wait and see how it turns out."

pelvist

What is there to dumb down in Diablo 3? You run around killing enemies. Not very hard. Your assertion about gameplay length is ridiculous, as well. Fallout 3 is just as long on the PC as it is on the 360. So is Oblivion. Mass Effect too!

If you seriously don't think this is a day one buy, then I don't know what to tell you. Even with Activision owning Blizzard, nothing shows that that has had any meaningful effect on their games.

Avatar image for Ondoval
Ondoval

3103

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#36 Ondoval
Member since 2005 • 3103 Posts

[QUOTE="pelvist"]

This is the way I see it, if a game is being developed with consoles in mind then wont the developers be inclined to drop things from the game or dumb down some aspect of the game because it might not work well on consoles?

Im not just talking about graphics, physics, hours of gameplay, lighting or sound but also the gameplay itself, PC games in the past have been noobified to make them easier for console gamers to play (Supcom 2, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six ect.) and thats what I have come to expect from all games that are being developed with consoles in mind. Some of my favorite PC game franchises have been ruined over the past few years and now, with Activision breathing down Blizzards neck I honestly dont know what to expect from Diablo III, this game has gone from being my most anticipated game and a definate buy, to a "humm ill just wait and see how it turns out."

airshocker

What is there to dumb down in Diablo 3? You run around killing enemies. Not very hard. Your assertion about gameplay length is ridiculous, as well. Fallout 3 is just as long on the PC as it is on the 360. So is Oblivion. Mass Effect too!

The number of players was reduced from 8 to 5. The inventory was significantly simplified. The player vs player in any map of the game was replaced for a arena minigame in very small, specifically designed areas called arenas. The artwork design is totally Warcraft III, even the combact effects and sounds are calling "look at me, I'm from Kalimdor and I'm not Sanctuary anymore".

Avatar image for pelvist
pelvist

9001

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#37 pelvist
Member since 2010 • 9001 Posts

Your assertion about gameplay length is rediculous.airshocker

Call of Duty says hi, so does Medal of Honor. $60 for 4 hours gameplay yay!

What is there to dumb down in Diablo 3?airshocker

The games not out yet, so I cant tell you, but I heard theres already less players and restricted PVP and still with no good reason as to why. Bare in mind next time you scrutinize me that I never said it will be dumbed down, I only said that I (me) expect it to be, and thats a perfectly good reason for me to be less excited about Diablo 3 than I was last week.

Fallout 3 is just as long on the PC as it is on 360, So is Oblivion, Mass Effect too!airshocker

Mass effect has always been a console game, what does that have to do with anything I said?

The Gamebryo game engine hasnt changed much at all since it was used in Oblivion, (an almost five year old game). Also Fallout 3 is a completely different game to the original Fallout games which is another franchise that I (and many many others) really loved, just the way it was. Fallout 3 may be a decent game, but its certainly not the Fallout I remember.

BTW, grats on finding two multiplatform Bethesda RPG's that have long playtime though... :roll: