did battlefield copy off tf2?

the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

TF2 wasnt the first game with that kind of art style in the first place....

and honestly anyone who thinks that DICE directly took the art style from TF2 should consider the fact that DICE's first game already had a cartoon like art-style, and that was the predecesor for the BF line of games.

TF2 wasnt the first game with that kind of art style in the first place....

and honestly anyone who thinks that DICE directly took the art style from TF2 should consider the fact that DICE's first game already had a cartoon like art-style, and that was the predecesor for the BF line of games.

cobrax25

That too.

I'll just repeat....Valve didn't invent cell shading or cartoony graphics. DICE had done one of these games before. And Both games were in development at the same time....

..so take off your tin foil hats...no conspiracy here

They were both in development at the same time. Neither knew what the other was doing. So they have similar art styles but neither copied the other. It just happenes they were both going for the same lookTeamR

That's very plausible, but do you have timelines to back it up? TF2's final visual style was revealed in 2006. Has DICE really been working on a free game for over two years? And has it had the visual style nailed down all that time? I don't buy that at all. But I do accept the possibility.

But I mean, let's not forget that the entertainment industry as a whole is as faddish as the school playground. Anything popular gets a whole slew of imitations. Just look at how many fantasy movies we had after the success of Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. And, man, let's not even start with superheroes.

I personally think the more important question is not, did it copy it - but, is it a good copy? Everything is plagurism anyway, so who cares? How good things are is what matters.

I keep hearing idiots say this,,,whats so similar?

Wow, so they are both stylized in the same kinda way and they both feature guns, big woop!

I guess why play COD4 when medal of honor allied assault already did it *sigh*

it most definately seems that way and it makes me angry when a company tries to copy another. it makes me sickicarus212001

It's a free game. They aren't doing this to try and sell off TF2's success.

[QUOTE="icarus212001"]it most definately seems that way and it makes me angry when a company tries to copy another. it makes me sickSwiftstrike5

It's a free game. They aren't doing this to try and sell off TF2's success.

thats why i said it seems like it, because its not a definate. i just hate when people copy in general, it just shows how originality nowadays is going down the pipe

the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

the_ewanmeister

no, Valve copied the cell shaded style of Zelda wind waker. TF2 = Zelda wind waker-like cell shading + CS gameplay.

because we all know only one game can be cell shaded right?

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the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

killax3563

no, Valve copied the cell shaded style of Zelda wind waker. TF2 = Zelda wind waker-like cell shading + CS gameplay.

because we all know only one game can be cell shaded right?

Well Zelad wind waker didn't invent cell shading...

From the screenshots that just looks like a simple cartoon.

The game that really used cell shading to an interesting effect was XIII - if its one game thats been copied its that!

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the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

biggest_loser

no, Valve copied the cell shaded style of Zelda wind waker. TF2 = Zelda wind waker-like cell shading + CS gameplay.

because we all know only one game can be cell shaded right?

Well Zelad wind waker didn't invent cell shading...

From the screenshots that just looks like a simple cartoon.

The game that really used cell shading to an interesting effect was XIII - if its one game thats been copied its that!

They're all just copying Comix Zone!

the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

the_ewanmeister

http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/dev-blog/nailing-the-look

I also spoke to Lars Gustavsson, the DICE studio Creative Director, and he mentioned to me an idea he had while working on Battlefield 1942 – he imagined a 'toon' Battlefield game, where a direct hit with a tank shell would just leave a pair of smoking boots on the ground. DICE's games have a long history of stylized graphics, with Codename Eagle's cartoon characters, the bright fun colors of Midtown Madness 3, and Battlefield 1942's ****which was influenced by the very same WWII comics I'd read as a boy. Given these directions, I set Gustav to work.

Gustav started creating character visualizations for feedback. The first set of images were something like a WWII version of the British cartoon pop band Gorillaz – extremely cool looking but I felt a little too left-field and childish looking. Eventually we settled on something which had a direct link back to 'Red' the hero in the 'pre-Battlefield' game, Codename Eagle.

DICE

As Gustav and his team worked on this art ****in the early phases of the project, we knew that there was a chance we could be compared to the small but well known group of PC shooters that have separated themselves from the standard realistic ****with a cartoon look – most notably Monolith's No One Lives Forever, Ubisoft's XIII and Valve's Team Fortress 2. We decide we would ignore the possibility of these comparisons and go with the ****we believed in as a team — a ****that fulfilled all the objectives I have detailed above.

After all, the alternative would have meant that Battlefield Heroes was yet another realistic WW2-****shooter. How original would that have been?

DICE

~~ THREAD FINISHED ~~

Is this a joke thread? The influence on the BF:Heroes art style comes from WWII propaganda imagery itself. TF2 has been in development for a while, but not that long.

Not to mention Battlefield is more of a cartoon shooter at heart due to it's eccentric gameplay. For a long time TF2 was supposed to be a brutal tactical fps.

DICE has copied everything else since the start. Hell TFC pretty much started class-based fps games anyway, and TF2 really took the spotlight for the "cartoony" look. Valve just had the guts to do it first. After BF2142, I can see why DICE has resorted to giving away their games for free.

Valve just had the guts to do it first.

SKaREO

Your wrong. Lots of games did it before valve. DICE did it before valve too. See my previous post.

This aint TF2...

Also, Team fortress didn't start with TFC on Half-life.

It started as an indie mod for Quake

[QUOTE="icarus212001"]it most definately seems that way and it makes me angry when a company tries to copy another. it makes me sickSwiftstrike5

It's a free game. They aren't doing this to try and sell off TF2's success.

Don't think that DICE is making this game just for the fun of it. It is free to play, however its business model will be in support of microtransactions for in-game items and abilities and such.

1 glance most people will think it copy tf2.

but its a free game so it doesnt matter much to me.

Valve just had the guts to do it first.

SKaREO

:lol: I played at least 6 games with cel-shaded games and if we talk about FPS you've got thirteen and warsow, and others i dont remember.

the clues in the title folks. did you think that battlefield heroes copied off (in the visual deparment obviously) team fortress 2? personally i think that battlefield did copy off tf2 but will have different gameplay and it looks like a huge amount of fun. plus the trailers genius

the_ewanmeister

Yes they did.

And also, TF2 copied off Wolfenstein 3D for being a FPS and Wolfenstein copied off Pong for being a game...

lol :P

I dunno, BFH looks more cartoony than TF2. TF2 looks like it was pulled straight from "The Incredibles" by Pixar.

So yeah, maybe the art style is similar, but TF2 looks like a Pixar movie, BFH looks more cartoonish to me.