directx 11.1 explained.. the secrets in the sauce

windows 8 brings with it a number of new things. the one on anyone gaming's mind is.. directx.

directx 11.1 my friends is looking smashing.. heres a sample (sorry if you dont like the subject matter) and hey they found something useful about US beer!

http://vga.zol.com.cn/250/2504388.html

http://vga.zol.com.cn/249/2497710.html

windows 8 brings with it a number of new things. the one on anyone gaming's mind is.. directx.

directx 11.1 my friends is looking smashing.. heres a sample (sorry if you dont like the subject matter) and hey they found something useful about US beer!

http://vga.zol.com.cn/250/2504388.html

http://vga.zol.com.cn/249/2497710.html

ionusX

MSDN DX11.0 and DX11.1 site

Cap bits returns...

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Notice "Supporting next iteration of graphics APIs".... the next DirectX for AMD Graphics Core Next.

i guess we'll need new cards for this, yes?

American beer is weak anyway.

i guess we'll need new cards for this, yes?

PcGamingRig

It's factoring handheld GPUs, hence the return to DX9 style cap bits.

There's no mention of Shader Model 5.1, only DX11.0's Shader Model 5.0...

Direct3D 11.1 lets the programmer use the certain Shader Model 5.0 instructions at all shader stages that were previously used in just pixel shaders and compute shaders.

One problem would be, if the existing DX11.0 hardware is flexible enough to support this new flexiability feature.

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Anyway, what I do know is that Windows 8's WDDM 1.2 drivers (which is one of the D3D 11.1 requirements) will be available for all AMD's DX11 type hardware. Therefore, it's entirely possible that D3D11.1 will work on at least some current hardware.

AMD DX11.0 hardware and Windows 8's WDDM 1.2 drivers link

AMD have full WDDM 1.2 support across the entire range of DirectX 11-based AMD FirePro and AMD Radeon discrete and APU graphics

i knew it and i been saying it Microsoft will try to pull something like this off so they could get people to buy Windows 8. well if its DX-11.1 im not going to just buy the new OS for that hopfully by the time DX-12 comes out for win 8 it will be a few years from now and the release of Windows-8

I am surprised windows 8 isn't coming with DX12.

So is this windows 8 only?

American beer is weak anyway.

GTR12

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

American beer is weak anyway.

i5750at4Ghz

No idea who that is, but Im gonna guess its weak as well.

Try Rogue beer. That's what the Intel employees drink ;)

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GTR12"]

American beer is weak anyway.

GTR12

No idea who that is, but Im gonna guess its weak as well.

It's a pretty good beer, they have less than 1% of the market.

Now by weak do you mean in flavor or alcohol content? Cuz there is stuff like natty ice that has a ton of alcohol but it tastes like garbage.

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

No idea who that is, but Im gonna guess its weak as well.

GummiRaccoon

It's a pretty good beer, they have less than 1% of the market.

Now by weak do you mean in flavor or alcohol content? Cuz there is stuff like natty ice that has a ton of alcohol but it tastes like garbage.

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :P

I like dx11.1

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

No idea who that is, but Im gonna guess its weak as well.

GTR12

It's a pretty good beer, they have less than 1% of the market.

Now by weak do you mean in flavor or alcohol content? Cuz there is stuff like natty ice that has a ton of alcohol but it tastes like garbage.

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :P

I like dx11.1

I am still shocked that windows 8 isn't going to come with dx12. 7 came with dx11, vista dx10, xp dx9.

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

It's a pretty good beer, they have less than 1% of the market.

Now by weak do you mean in flavor or alcohol content? Cuz there is stuff like natty ice that has a ton of alcohol but it tastes like garbage.

GummiRaccoon

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :P

I like dx11.1

I am still shocked that windows 8 isn't going to come with dx12. 7 came with dx11, vista dx10, xp dx9.

I am surprised windows 8 isn't coming with DX12.

GummiRaccoon

DX11 has barely been tapped.

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :PGTR12

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :P

I like dx11.1

ferret-gamer

I am still shocked that windows 8 isn't going to come with dx12. 7 came with dx11, vista dx10, xp dx9.

True, I also see that there is dx11 for vista.

[QUOTE="GTR12"]Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :PIantheone

I fixed it for you, and got no idea where your from, it can be imported ;)

I dont think I'll be upgrading my GPU until next gen consoles or if I win the lotto.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="GTR12"]Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :PGTR12

I fixed it for you, and got no idea where your from, it can be imported ;)

I dont think I'll be upgrading my GPU until next gen consoles or if I win the lotto.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

No idea who that is, but Im gonna guess its weak as well.

GTR12

It's a pretty good beer, they have less than 1% of the market.

Now by weak do you mean in flavor or alcohol content? Cuz there is stuff like natty ice that has a ton of alcohol but it tastes like garbage.

Both lol, Im australian so havent heard of any of those, anyways, back on topic :P

I like dx11.1

Haha! Oh gawd, here comes DX10 all over again. I'm assuming Windows 7 will be able to all of this with a simple download and install, but M$ will likely play it off like it's sooooo cutting edge that they have to buy the all new (and lame) Windows 8!

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I am still shocked that windows 8 isn't going to come with dx12. 7 came with dx11, vista dx10, xp dx9.

GummiRaccoon

True, I also see that there is dx11 for vista.

were there more versions of DX9 then there were WIN XP Service packs?? haha!

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I am surprised windows 8 isn't coming with DX12.

configme

DX11 has barely been tapped.

[QUOTE="configme"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I am surprised windows 8 isn't coming with DX12.

mitu123

DX11 has barely been tapped.

[QUOTE="configme"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I am surprised windows 8 isn't coming with DX12.

mitu123

DX11 has barely been tapped.

DX10 was a sham, everything that was in DX10 was able to be done in DX9.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="configme"]

DX11 has barely been tapped.

configme

DX10 was a sham, everything that was in DX10 was able to be done in DX9.

I think dx10 does those things better and more efficiently though. Look at the extreme dithering of ssao shadows in the witcher 2.

[QUOTE="configme"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Hell, so has DX10.XDtopgunmv

DX10 was a sham, everything that was in DX10 was able to be done in DX9.

I think dx10 does those things better and more efficiently though. Look at the extreme dithering of ssao shadows in the witcher 2.

They could have done it better through DX9

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="configme"]

DX10 was a sham, everything that was in DX10 was able to be done in DX9.

configme

I think dx10 does those things better and more efficiently though. Look at the extreme dithering of ssao shadows in the witcher 2.

They could have done it better through DX9

I don't understand.

[QUOTE="configme"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I think dx10 does those things better and more efficiently though. Look at the extreme dithering of ssao shadows in the witcher 2.

topgunmv

They could have done it better through DX9

I don't understand.

So will this be available to Win 7 users like dx 11 was for Vista? I hope so, I really don't feel like upgrading my damn OS again for some time. Then again, if I can get it free through my college like I did 7.....I'm all for it :Pmillerlight89

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

xp came with dx8.1, dx9 came out a year after xp had released.ferret-gamer

True, I also see that there is dx11 for vista.

were there more versions of DX9 then there were WIN XP Service packs?? haha!

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]So will this be available to Win 7 users like dx 11 was for Vista? I hope so, I really don't feel like upgrading my damn OS again for some time. Then again, if I can get it free through my college like I did 7.....I'm all for it :Pwis3boi

In the market place, real "DX 10.0" and DX10.1 standards was hampered by NVIDIA's "The Way It's Meant To be Played" (DX10.NV path).

NVIDIA's kit-bashing DX10.0 and DX10.1 standard example

DX10.NV path only runs on one GPU brand i.e. NVIDIA. It's a good thing Intel (at the low end market)and AMD (at the low-end to high-end markets)has reduced NVIDIA's market power.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="configme"]

DX11 has barely been tapped.

configme

DX10 was a sham, everything that was in DX10 was able to be done in DX9.

Mainstream DX10 cards like Geforce 8600 GT/9500 GT wasn't able to sustain DX10 performance.

There's a downside on moving front-end workloads from CPU to GPU on compute shader resource poor DX10 GPUs e.g. Geforce 8400/8500/8600 GT/8700.

Disgusting. 98% of games that are released don't even implement well the features of DirectX10 yet alone 11.-CheeseEater-

[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]Disgusting. 98% of games that are released don't even implement well the features of DirectX10 yet alone 11.tequilasunriser

[QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]Disgusting. 98% of games that are released don't even implement well the features of DirectX10 yet alone 11.tequilasunriser

I have that feeling as well. I'd certainly sacrifice graphical improvements for improvements in physics though.It'd make my next decade if the next consoles pack enough power to compute more realistic physics.

I honestly believe the next big leap in gaming won't be from improved graphics, but from greatly improved physics.

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="-CheeseEater-"]Disgusting. 98% of games that are released don't even implement well the features of DirectX10 yet alone 11.wis3boi

Meh, they won't even be out until 2015 and tech will move very far forward in that time.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] I blame that on the consoles. Devs probably don't want to differentiate their games too much from their lesser console counterparts.GummiRaccoon

Meh, they won't even be out until 2015 and tech will move very far forward in that time.

2012 for Wii U, awesome AMD tech, and 2013 for the others, i bet ya!

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] I have a gut fear the next consoles wont even make use of DX11 features, let alone be able to run them smoothly. The gap may yet get wider and widerkungfool69

Meh, they won't even be out until 2015 and tech will move very far forward in that time.

2012 for Wii U, awesome AMD tech, and 2013 for the others, i bet ya!

At this point they'd have to announce them right now for a 2013 launch.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] I blame that on the consoles. Devs probably don't want to differentiate their games too much from their lesser console counterparts.GummiRaccoon

Meh, they won't even be out until 2015 and tech will move very far forward in that time.