I've been researching GPU upgrades to ready myself for DirectX12 and have noticed something on Nvidia's website http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti and if you look to the left you will notice that DirectX12 is under the supported lists though when I use "DirectX extensions viewer" in windows 10 it says that DX12 is not supported. I prefer to keep my old videocard being that I don't feel like an upgrade is needed yet being I still pretty much max out any game I play with a bunch of anti aliasing so why is it not showing support for DX12?
I know there is no games out there yet that even support DX12 but I would have liked to know if I needed to upgrade or not yet.
DX12 or not, that card is ancient. It is time to upgrade. I used to own a 560Ti myself. I have gone through multiple upgrades since that card. I got a 670 and then 670 SLI, then 970 SLI, and now a 980 Ti. I would recommend a 970 as an all around good performer that isn't super expensive. A 970 will be a huge upgrade over your 560 Ti.
yeah I know its just that I still get pretty good performance with 4K with this card. I haven't had a game yet where I see noticeable stutter even with areas with high action and even Skyrim plays well with mods at 4K. I would hate to upgrade JUST for DX12 right now so ill probably wait til the next series of cards come out whenever that will be.
yeah I know its just that I still get pretty good performance with 4K with this card. I haven't had a game yet where I see noticeable stutter even with areas with high action and even Skyrim plays well with mods at 4K. I would hate to upgrade JUST for DX12 right now so ill probably wait til the next series of cards come out whenever that will be.
Are you serious? A 560 Ti for 4K? The card struggles at 1080p. Are you getting 3 fps at 4K? I'm starting to think that you are just trollin here.
nvidia's gtx 9 series cards are the only gpus that supports dx12 feature levels completely. once install win 10 and latest nvidia driver for 560ti, run dxdiag to find out feature levels of card. to get more specific details of feature level support run direct x caps viewer this app is part of windows sdk.
the complete overview for each feature level are listed on msdn.
@TrooperManaic: Don't worry that your card can't play at the moment DX12 games/programs.
The answer is simple.
Nvidia didn't release yet DX12 drivers for Fermi based GPUs.
"support for Fermi coming later."
@klunt_bumskrint said:
It's actually only the 980ti and Titan X that have "full" DX12 support.
All 9xx (aka 2nd gen Maxwell) will have DX12 feature lvl 12.1.
"As you might expect from a GPU said to be built with the future in mind, GM200 supports feature level 12.1 (as does GM204). Everything older, including the GM107 found in GeForce GTX 750 Ti, is limited to feature level 12.0."
GM204 Feature lvl:
Don't be conservative with Conservative Rasterization
Maxwell GM204 OpenGL extensions
ps: same as GTX980ti/TitanX:
ps2: The reality is that GM200 might be the only GPU atm that has the power to run these features, cause if they are heavy like first time they introduce Tesselation, then it needs power... :P
@BassMan: the only 3 games I play are skyrim masseffect 3 and dark souls 2 and it doesnt struggle at all with the 4k dsr on with max settings.
I ran dual GTX 570s in SLI across 5760x1080 (6,220,800 pixels) and 4k is 3840x2160 (8,294,400 pixels). I had to turn down settings on games that are just as demanding as Skyrim to get a good playable frame rate of 30-45fps....and my resolution is roughly 3/4 of a 4k resolution.
I moved up to a GTX 980Ti and I can run any game at or well above 60fps at 5760x1080 or if I run the games at 4k DSR (3840x2160) they run between 50-60fps on average for most games.
I don't think you run at 4k (even 4k DSR) at a solid, 30+fps. A single GTX 570 is about 10% faster over the 560Ti....so I don't see how you can "max" out these games with good playable frame rates on a single 560Ti. Even if you have a 2GB version of the card, you're still limited by VRAM and overall power of the card.
Let's face it....here are benchmarks for Skyrim at 2560x1600 maxed that show a GTX 560Ti in the results (2560x1600 = 4,096,000 pixels. Which is just under 1/2 the resolution of 4k):
So, you can see why I find it hard to believe you're running these games "max" at 4k DSR with a single GTX 560Ti.
Now, if you're enjoying the experience of everything on the card, great. That's good. I just don't believe the claims you make about the settings and resolution you use.
the only 3 games I play are skyrim masseffect 3 and dark souls 2 and it doesnt struggle at all with the 4k dsr on with max settings.
Now that has to be bogus, Skyrim maxed with DSR 3135x1960 gets between 55-72 fps with a GTX 980
Ive seen people do DSR on ME3 on a GTX 760 but GTX 560ti dont think so unless your ok with 30 fps. And with Dark Souls to get 60 fps with DSR you need a 970.
Ill post some proof later on today though after reviewing the nvidia driver update thing in pleased to see my card will support 12.1 though Im only interested in squeezeing it out a bit more until Nvidia releases something new which probably will be next year Im assuming?
Ill post some proof later on today though after reviewing the nvidia driver update thing in pleased to see my card will support 12.1 though Im only interested in squeezeing it out a bit more until Nvidia releases something new which probably will be next year Im assuming?
"Plus, our Maxwell and Kepler GPU architectures already support DX12, with support for Fermi coming later."
Ill post some proof later on today though after reviewing the nvidia driver update thing in pleased to see my card will support 12.1 though Im only interested in squeezeing it out a bit more until Nvidia releases something new which probably will be next year Im assuming?
Just out of morbid curiosity, how's that 560Ti doing for running your 4k DSR with maxed settings?
the only 3 games I play are skyrim masseffect 3 and dark souls 2 and it doesnt struggle at all with the 4k dsr on with max settings.
Now that has to be bogus, Skyrim maxed with DSR 3135x1960 gets between 55-72 fps with a GTX 980
Ive seen people do DSR on ME3 on a GTX 760 but GTX 560ti dont think so unless your ok with 30 fps. And with Dark Souls to get 60 fps with DSR you need a 970.
I'm finding it hard to believe.
Before I jumped to my current 970 and 1440 monitor, i was running x2 7870's with a 3 monitor setup. 5760x1080. (i still have the cards, and I have 4 1080p monitors total)
I did a test. Just running one 7870 (stock, no OC) at 5760x1080.... It can barely run tomb raider (2013) at 30 fps on normal settings at that res.
While two different games and cards. I'm still finding it hard to believe he can do it with mods.
well I tried taking pics of DS2 but it seems to have some sort of DRM protection on it as when I paste the copied game picture it always turns out completely white though DS2 I'm running the high 50's FPS wise.
I don't have ME3 installed on my new windows 10 installation but almost any computer that has a TI card can max that game out no prob anyway so its no surprise even at 4K DSR.
Skyrim on the other hand actually played a trick on me. IDK why but I put my settings on 4K but it defaults back to 1080P and I never noticed before so I guess I got called out on that one.
Anyway I'm kinda itching for a new card now. I'm probably gonna wait until next month but the 980TI is looking really enticing even if I still have to upgrade next year.
what is your cpu, if you don'tmind me asking. Jumping from a 560ti to something high end like a 980ti could have problems if your cpu isn't able to keep up with the card. :P
what is your cpu, if you don'tmind me asking. Jumping from a 560ti to something high end like a 980ti could have problems if your cpu isn't able to keep up with the card. :P
That's probably allot though for me its every 3-4 years. Though Iv'e made my decision. I am gonna go get myself a GTX 970 until the new high end TI models comes out from Nvidia next year.
DX12 or not, that card is ancient. It is time to upgrade. I used to own a 560Ti myself. I have gone through multiple upgrades since that card. I got a 670 and then 670 SLI, then 970 SLI, and now a 980 Ti. I would recommend a 970 as an all around good performer that isn't super expensive. A 970 will be a huge upgrade over your 560 Ti.
How often do you upgrade?
I upgrade as needed to achieve my gaming standards. Right now I play at 1440p@144hz Ultra and I demand 60+ fps as a minimum in all games. My most recent switch to a 980 Ti was because I was sick of the issues with SLI. Otherwise I would have kept my 970s. I always get a good amount of my money back on the old components that I sell.
what is your cpu, if you don'tmind me asking. Jumping from a 560ti to something high end like a 980ti could have problems if your cpu isn't able to keep up with the card. :P
He has an overall better computer then me in every instance but not anything MAJOR except the videocard but my buddy just got the 970 and hot damn is it good. Saw him playing GTA 5 on some pretty high settings and it was just blowing through it. I know I want to get a 970 but the enthusiast in me is telling me to get the 980TI. I had this idea just now to try this for a month and see if I really do want to get that card https://cuttingedgegamer.com/products/evga/evga-gtx-970-sc-acx-2/
I couldn't wait anymore LOL I ordered the GIGABYTE. My buddy already has the ASUS and I kinda wanted to see how GIGABYTE has improved being I used to have their 460 and it was fantastic. Ill post some benchmarks in a new thread once I receive it with the hardware I have.
I couldn't wait anymore LOL I ordered the GIGABYTE. My buddy already has the ASUS and I kinda wanted to see how GIGABYTE has improved being I used to have their 460 and it was fantastic. Ill post some benchmarks in a new thread once I receive it with the hardware I have.
You will enjoy that GTX 970 G1, Got mine 8 months go and it boosts itself to over 1.4ghz it has a ASIC rating of 79.4. Coming from a GTX 760 is was still a big upgrade, coming from a GTX 560ti it will be an amazing upgrade.
Why lease it? You have to sign up for 12 months and that cost is way more than buying it and you don't even own it. Terrible waste of money. You are better off just buying the card and then selling it when you want to upgrade.
@TrooperManaic: The Nvidia GTX 560's are definitely long in the tooth these days. If your budget can allow it consider upgrading to something relatively newer. You'll get dramatically improved frame rates over any of the 500 series GPU's.
@sm0ke: yeah I plan on fully upgradeing to a gtx 980ti soonish. I have an extra gaming desktop I posted on cl for a trade so ill just rent out that 970 until someone hits me up.
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