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i like team fortress 2 too it's far more better than counter strikeTF2. my faivorite game right now.... and I think it is much much much much much much much much much better than CS...
AmitAmar
Team Fortress 2 is better in my opinion.It's constantly updated,tons of ways to play and it requires teamwork to succeed.
I like both games.
TF2 is stays fresh with it's updates, varied and very balanced classes, ect. Complementary to the balance, the game can be picked up by a newcomer and still find a role with some fun to be had.
I absolutely love CS 1.6 and CS:S. The game is pretty difficult for new players with veterans like myself running around who've been playing the game since it's release in 99. It doesn't receive many major updates, but still has some nice community made maps. Most players don't want it to be changed, updated, or receive a sequel, you wouldn't understand.
Definitely TF 2. There is one problem though with it, once I start playing, God knows when I say "okay that's enough for now".
tf2 by far cs is really hard to play cause its usually a one hit kill with most guns and tf2 is funny and it makes it more enjoyable
Used to be a CS fanboy, but now that I updated my rig Im all over TF2 (just bought the orange box off of steam)
I like both, but CS much more than TF2. TF2 is probably one of Valve's larger failures. Valve doesn't want to give up on it though. They constantly pump time, money, and effort into updates for it when the playerbase has been and always is on the decline. It's an interesting game to pick up and play every once in awhile, but in the end it gets boring quick. I wish Valve would pick up a new project already - something a little more interesting. Natural Selection 2 wouldn't hurt...KHAndAnime
I don't see how it's a failure, since it's fanbase is steady and having 9 classes to perfect, it can't get boring fast. Also, they are working on Natural Selection 2.
I like both, but CS much more than TF2. TF2 is probably one of Valve's larger failures. Valve doesn't want to give up on it though. They constantly pump time, money, and effort into updates for it when the playerbase has been and always is on the decline. It's an interesting game to pick up and play every once in awhile, but in the end it gets boring quick. I wish Valve would pick up a new project already - something a little more interesting. Natural Selection 2 wouldn't hurt...KHAndAnime
TF2 a failure? uh, BS. TF2 was definately a sucess. i mean it wasnt hl2 or portal or anything but it has a large player base. i dont know what you're talkin about man.
Although I have been playing CS and CSS on and off since 2003, I still like TF2 better. It's more fun, and far less fustrating to play.
And despite 6 odd years under my belt, I still have a crappy kill-death ratio in CS. People are just too damn good, or maybe I just suck too much at these twitch shooters.
Although I have been playing CS and CSS on and off since 2003, I still like TF2 better. It's more fun, and far less fustrating to play.
And despite 6 odd years under my belt, I still have a crappy kill-death ratio in CS. People are just too damn good, or maybe I just suck too much at these twitch shooters.
The_Capitalist
Funny i think that TF2 is more frustrating than CS even if youre the best player on the server if you're stuck on a team that doesnt work together you wont accomplish much. A lot of ppl just worry about their stats and dont bother looking or paying attention what classes are needed to help the team. A lot of times you'll see 4 snipers 3 spy no medics and the team ends up being rolled. But that's expected in pubs i suppose.
In CS one could at least take out several players from the other team and give your team a numbers advantage.
Both are great games but I would prefer CS, though i havent played it since i built my new rig last year.
i think i like counter strike more, but i do love tf2. im not spectacular at either of them but im good enough to hold my own (get at least a 1.5 k/d ratio). counter strike teams are usually fairly balanced and even when they are not its still quite possible to win a round, team fortress 2 i rarely get in a good game, its usually either my team is destroying the other team or vice versa.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I like both, but CS much more than TF2. TF2 is probably one of Valve's larger failures. Valve doesn't want to give up on it though. They constantly pump time, money, and effort into updates for it when the playerbase has been and always is on the decline. It's an interesting game to pick up and play every once in awhile, but in the end it gets boring quick. I wish Valve would pick up a new project already - something a little more interesting. Natural Selection 2 wouldn't hurt...jettpack
TF2 a failure? uh, BS. TF2 was definately a sucess. i mean it wasnt hl2 or portal or anything but it has a large player base. i dont know what you're talkin about man.
It's being beaten by both CS and CS:S. CS:S has 5x the amount of players playing at all times. TF2 isn't the success Valve intended it to be. In addition to that, TF2 came free with the Orange Box and is sold separately. People just like CS:S better.[QUOTE="jettpack"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I like both, but CS much more than TF2. TF2 is probably one of Valve's larger failures. Valve doesn't want to give up on it though. They constantly pump time, money, and effort into updates for it when the playerbase has been and always is on the decline. It's an interesting game to pick up and play every once in awhile, but in the end it gets boring quick. I wish Valve would pick up a new project already - something a little more interesting. Natural Selection 2 wouldn't hurt...KHAndAnime
TF2 a failure? uh, BS. TF2 was definately a sucess. i mean it wasnt hl2 or portal or anything but it has a large player base. i dont know what you're talkin about man.
It's being beaten by both CS and CS:S. CS:S has 5x the amount of players playing at all times. TF2 isn't the success Valve intended it to be. In addition to that, TF2 came free with the Orange Box and is sold separately. People just like CS:S better.You can't prove that. That's just making everyone else's opinion for them. And Team Fortress 2 didn't come free in the Orange Box, it was simply part of the Orange Box.
It's being beaten by both CS and CS:S. CS:S has 5x the amount of players playing at all times. TF2 isn't the success Valve intended it to be. In addition to that, TF2 came free with the Orange Box and is sold separately. People just like CS:S better.[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="jettpack"]
TF2 a failure? uh, BS. TF2 was definately a sucess. i mean it wasnt hl2 or portal or anything but it has a large player base. i dont know what you're talkin about man.
Phoenix534
You can't prove that. That's just making everyone else's opinion for them. And Team Fortress 2 didn't come free in the Orange Box, it was simply part of the Orange Box.
I can prove it, because Counter-Strike has 5x the amount of players. :P
What's so hard to understand about that?
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] It's being beaten by both CS and CS:S. CS:S has 5x the amount of players playing at all times. TF2 isn't the success Valve intended it to be. In addition to that, TF2 came free with the Orange Box and is sold separately. People just like CS:S better.KHAndAnime
You can't prove that. That's just making everyone else's opinion for them. And Team Fortress 2 didn't come free in the Orange Box, it was simply part of the Orange Box.
I can prove it, because Counter-Strike has 5x the amount of players. :P
What's so hard to understand about that?
You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]
[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]
You can't prove that. That's just making everyone else's opinion for them. And Team Fortress 2 didn't come free in the Orange Box, it was simply part of the Orange Box.
Phoenix534
I can prove it, because Counter-Strike has 5x the amount of players. :P
What's so hard to understand about that?
You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more.[QUOTE="Phoenix534"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]
I can prove it, because Counter-Strike has 5x the amount of players. :P
What's so hard to understand about that?
KHAndAnime
You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more. But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more. But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
THE_BRUTALIZER
I am disregarding him now. And that last statement is true. Why, just today I was playing with a couple buddies and the servers we tried(3 different ones) were almost entirely little kids. I'm 13, but I'm not like those other kids that act like idiots and have stupid rules and mods(one of the servers had police and TeleTubby skins and they all said they'd get my account banned by their mod friend because I killed one of them).
But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more.Phoenix534
I am disregarding him now. And that last statement is true. Why, just today I was playing with a couple buddies and the servers we tried(3 different ones) were almost entirely little kids. I'm 13, but I'm not like those other kids that act like idiots and have stupid rules and mods(one of the servers had police and TeleTubby skins and they all said they'd get my account banned by their mod friend because I killed one of them).
Yeah, i use 12 year old kids as somewhat of an in general type thing....there are just so many **** spoiled kids who think they are cool for playing games like that, and I dont know, maybe its their voice or how damn sensitive they are, I just wanna die when I play on servers with kids like that....[QUOTE="Phoenix534"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....THE_BRUTALIZER
I am disregarding him now. And that last statement is true. Why, just today I was playing with a couple buddies and the servers we tried(3 different ones) were almost entirely little kids. I'm 13, but I'm not like those other kids that act like idiots and have stupid rules and mods(one of the servers had police and TeleTubby skins and they all said they'd get my account banned by their mod friend because I killed one of them).
Yeah, i use 12 year old kids as somewhat of an in general type thing....there are just so many **** spoiled kids who think they are cool for playing games like that, and I dont know, maybe its their voice or how damn sensitive they are, I just wanna die when I play on servers with kids like that....Yeah. Luckily, they usually stay away from the Gun Game servers.
I hate counter strike. Although i have over 1500 hours playing it. PLayed on some of the best teams that have ever graced cal main. And gone to 7 lans and won 5. terrible game.
TF2 because everyone on CS is either really mean or really good. Or both.
Plus I get tired of shooting someone's torso for five seconds and getting no hits.
TF2 on the otherhand is a blast everytime I've played. I don't know how many hours I've logged on 2fort alone and somehow against all common sense it's still fun.
Wow everyone voted for team fortress 2 and only 4 people voted for i'm too stupid too play that game.
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more. But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys..... Well, more people don't play CS:S because it's worse. ;) And 12 year old boys? Try something a little more substantial. TF2 wasn't that great. Valve gives out an amazing amount of free content for the game yet it still doesn't have too many players.You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
THE_BRUTALIZER
But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys..... Well, more people don't play CS:S because it's worse. ;) And 12 year old boys? Try something a little more substantial. TF2 wasn't that great. Valve gives out an amazing amount of free content for the game yet it still doesn't have too many players. Thats just a different version of what I said. Playerbase does not make the game better or worse. You just proved yourself wrong OH SNAP OH SNAP Yeah, sure, TF2 doesnt have many players.....wait, brings us back to where I started. How many times do I have to say it? MORE PLAYERS DOESNT MAKE IT A BETTER GAME. And at least tf2 gets content! CS is just a constantly modded game by its players....its nothing special....[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more.KHAndAnime
yup both of them is a really good game but team fortress 2 is better than counter strikei havent played them but i've been told they are both really good games
trooperpayne
[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Well, more people don't play CS:S because it's worse. ;) And 12 year old boys? Try something a little more substantial. TF2 wasn't that great. Valve gives out an amazing amount of free content for the game yet it still doesn't have too many players. Thats just a different version of what I said. Playerbase does not make the game better or worse. You just proved yourself wrong OH SNAP OH SNAP Yeah, sure, TF2 doesnt have many players.....wait, brings us back to where I started. How many times do I have to say it? MORE PLAYERS DOESNT MAKE IT A BETTER GAME. And at least tf2 gets content! CS is just a constantly modded game by its players....its nothing special.... People don't want Valve messing with the game because it's perfect how it is. The game doesn't need new content to stay fresh. TF2 on the other hand is receiving life support from Valve just to stay afloat. Remember back when Valve tried to add an economy system to the game and every server went out of the way to disable it? There's nothing that Valve can contribute to the game anymore aside from catch hackers.[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....THE_BRUTALIZER
But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Playerbase = how much people like the game. If people liked TF2 more, they'd play that more.Phoenix534
I am disregarding him now. And that last statement is true. Why, just today I was playing with a couple buddies and the servers we tried(3 different ones) were almost entirely little kids. I'm 13, but I'm not like those other kids that act like idiots and have stupid rules and mods(one of the servers had police and TeleTubby skins and they all said they'd get my account banned by their mod friend because I killed one of them).
Lol, stop lying. And don't say 12 year old kids are stupid, because you're not far from them you know? Not even I am (I'm 15), there are good players around...And you can find a** holes everywhere. But, truth be told, younger people talking on the mic, damn, that's annoying..[QUOTE="Phoenix534"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] But that doesnt make the game any better.....just disregard this guy he's just another fanboy.... Sure, more people play it, but thats mainly because its cheaper, and it has a playerbase that includes mostly of 12 year old boys.....rmfd341
I am disregarding him now. And that last statement is true. Why, just today I was playing with a couple buddies and the servers we tried(3 different ones) were almost entirely little kids. I'm 13, but I'm not like those other kids that act like idiots and have stupid rules and mods(one of the servers had police and TeleTubby skins and they all said they'd get my account banned by their mod friend because I killed one of them).
Lol, stop lying. And don't say 12 year old kids are stupid, because you're not far from them you know? Not even I am (I'm 15), there are good players around...And you can find a** holes everywhere. But, truth be told, younger people talking on the mic, damn, that's annoying..I'm not saying all of them, not even most of them. It's just that some of them can be stupid. Same with every age.
[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Well, more people don't play CS:S because it's worse. ;) And 12 year old boys? Try something a little more substantial. TF2 wasn't that great. Valve gives out an amazing amount of free content for the game yet it still doesn't have too many players.Thats just a different version of what I said. Playerbase does not make the game better or worse. You just proved yourself wrong OH SNAP OH SNAP Yeah, sure, TF2 doesnt have many players.....wait, brings us back to where I started. How many times do I have to say it? MORE PLAYERS DOESNT MAKE IT A BETTER GAME. And at least tf2 gets content! CS is just a constantly modded game by its players....its nothing special.... People don't want Valve messing with the game because it's perfect how it is. The game doesn't need new content to stay fresh. TF2 on the other hand is receiving life support from Valve just to stay afloat. Remember back when Valve tried to add an economy system to the game and every server went out of the way to disable it? There's nothing that Valve can contribute to the game anymore aside from catch hackers.KHAndAnime
I'm going to end this playerbase conversation. Team Fortress 2=2007. Counter-Strike: Source Mods=2004...And it has mods. Valve doesn't have to support CS:S because it gets it's content from players. Team Fortress 2 is only getting class updates and new hats.
I find it comical that the all these young kids feel qualified to talk about counter strike. They probably fall into two categories:
a)the newer is better crowd
b) people who are never going to get to the skill level of cs players that have been playing since they were in the third grade.
Also phoenix you're in over your head man
You can't prove that people like Counter-Strike: Source better. Playerbase=/=better game.
Maybe not from your personal perspective, but I'd say this is pretty accurate criteria for judging what's the "better game" based on the sheer volume of games cs has MANY years later.
Definitely, imo, cs is the better game. I agree with the notion that a good player can do a lot more for their team in counter strike, but that's why tf2 is called TEAM fortress.
People don't want Valve messing with the game because it's perfect how it is. The game doesn't need new content to stay fresh. TF2 on the other hand is receiving life support from Valve just to stay afloat. Remember back when Valve tried to add an economy system to the game and every server went out of the way to disable it? There's nothing that Valve can contribute to the game anymore aside from catch hackers.[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Thats just a different version of what I said. Playerbase does not make the game better or worse. You just proved yourself wrong OH SNAP OH SNAP Yeah, sure, TF2 doesnt have many players.....wait, brings us back to where I started. How many times do I have to say it? MORE PLAYERS DOESNT MAKE IT A BETTER GAME. And at least tf2 gets content! CS is just a constantly modded game by its players....its nothing special....Phoenix534
I'm going to end this playerbase conversation. Team Fortress 2=2007. Counter-Strike: Source Mods=2004...And it has mods. Valve doesn't have to support CS:S because it gets it's content from players. Team Fortress 2 is only getting class updates and new hats.
TF2 has received new maps, new weapons, new gameplay modes, and they've pretty much completely revamped the game since its launch. Let's see if TF2's playerbase grows in 3 more years. I don't think I need to tell you what I'm going to bet on.[QUOTE="Phoenix534"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] People don't want Valve messing with the game because it's perfect how it is. The game doesn't need new content to stay fresh. TF2 on the other hand is receiving life support from Valve just to stay afloat. Remember back when Valve tried to add an economy system to the game and every server went out of the way to disable it? There's nothing that Valve can contribute to the game anymore aside from catch hackers.KHAndAnime
I'm going to end this playerbase conversation. Team Fortress 2=2007. Counter-Strike: Source Mods=2004...And it has mods. Valve doesn't have to support CS:S because it gets it's content from players. Team Fortress 2 is only getting class updates and new hats.
TF2 has received new maps, new weapons, new gameplay modes, and they've pretty much completely revamped the game since its launch. Let's see if TF2's playerbase grows in 3 more years. I don't think I need to tell you what I'm going to bet on.Like I said, plyaerbase=/=better game. Some of the greatest games had small playerbases. And yes, they are adding new modes and everything, but that's because the modders are obsessed with CS:S.
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