Do you think Dragon Age: Origins will fail?

Coming from a newcomer to the franchise to the Baldurs Gate series and only have played a couple Bioware games myself in all I am looking foward to this game. The gameplay looks sweet and somewhat similar to The Elder scrolls series in terms of the setting and so does the combat. I just hope its not buggy and plays smoothly.

Then again should we worry? its developed by Bioware??

Thoughts?

I trust that Bioware will make something big out of Dragon Age:Origins...even if it does have high system requirements and even if it IS in a generic setting.I mean...bioware has been doing RPGs since it has been founded.

It will do well. They are using the Baldur's Gate II style combat and there is no possible way you can mess that up. As for the setting I like what they are doing with it; you aren't some chosen one and more of a man (or woman) fighting off an invasion led by an archdemon.

Personally, I didn't liked Bioware's previous two games i.e, JE and ME , felt they had more flash than substance, even then I am optimistic that it will be worth a buy because many previews look good (although they seem a indicate a bit too combat focussed game, but BG 2's was also a bit similar) and second it's shipping with a toolset which can result in tons of cool community stuff just like NWN

I don't know about the consoles, but on PC, you can't go wrong since it's shipping with a toolset.

it's my most anticipated game as i'm a baldur's gate fan

it will be a day one buy for me but still not sure if i'll get the steam edition or retail collector edition

some of the videos/presentations were a little disappointing though

i know i will like it but i don't know if it will sell really well

Bioware's game? Fail? Never! > : (

Yes,

I think it will.

Yes,

I think it will.

HenriH-42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87euafZzzI&feature=related

I really hope not. Really looking forward to this game. I honestly can't see it being anything but a great game.

I don't know if it will be a failure. Bioware is a talented developer. Though the setting is quite generic and the requirements including a quad core are more than concerning. biggest_loser

Yes,

I think it will.

HenriH-42

I don't expect a mainstream RPG to be as deep and complex as any classic cRPG, but I think Dragon Age: Origins will awesome for today's standarts. The only cRPG with a real chance to be as good as the old ones is Age of Decadence.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't know if it will be a failure. Bioware is a talented developer. Though the setting is quite generic and the requirements including a quad core are more than concerning. dakan45

Yes,

I think it will.

HenriH-42

count me outta this quad core bs.

That REALLY depends on youridea of"fail".

I doubt it will go well with the younger players, I think it is slower paced, more grown up then what they like, and I doubt there is a great action sequence every 2 minutes (ME anyone?).

The older players on PC however will eat it up like no tomorrow (I think the main demographic for this game is in thier mid 20).

It ISan attempt to bring back the gameplay and game of old, the complexity, many layers, and blured lines.I hope it is just like that... the spiritual sequal of BG2, thoughtful, slower paced, to give a better image of the world, well thought out, well written, almost like a book in some ways. (as in it only progresses at the pace the reader is reading).

I kinda think that is why they have 2 games comming out so soon after eachother, they aim for different people.

I dont think it will sell as well as they hope (the console controles are good Ive heard, but when playing a console deep games are not the best kind, fun social games generally does better there, and faster bite sized chunks ofthe other games (in that they can be playied for a few hours and then picked up later).

I would love to be proven wrong tho, and thatDA sells alot even on consoles.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] :( quad core... [QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

Yes,

I think it will.

TheCrazed420

That REALLY depends on youridea of"fail".

I doubt it will go well with the younger players, I think it is slower paced, more grown up then what they like, and I doubt there is a great action sequence every 2 minutes (ME anyone?).

The older players on PC however will eat it up like no tomorrow (I think the main demographic for this game is in thier mid 20).

It ISan attempt to bring back the gameplay and game of old, the complexity, many layers, and blured lines.I hope it is just like that... the spiritual sequal of BG2, thoughtful, slower paced, to give a better image of the world, well thought out, well written, almost like a book in some ways. (as in it only progresses at the pace the reader is reading).

I kinda think that is why they have 2 games comming out so soon after eachother, they aim for different people.

I dont think it will sell as well as they hope (the console controles are good Ive heard, but when playing a console deep games are not the best kind, fun social games generally does better there, and faster bite sized chunks ofthe other games (in that they can be playied for a few hours and then picked up later).

I would love to be proven wrong tho, and thatDA sells alot even on consoles.

Maddie_Larkin

This game will not fail. When it comes to sales it will be out on 3 platforms and Bioware has a legion of fans. That's plenty of copies sold right off the bat. As for critical failure, I think Bioware is too talented to put a bad game out. They have yet to put out a game I disliked.

what the hell? is this what i need a quad core for? Even gta iv is more justified for quad core than this.... ps: they destroyed all my hype for a game that takes place in medieval age with dragons..... so yes its gonna fail :(dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"] And another bases their opinion off an (admittably bad) trailer. Watch the video I linked. This game will look and play amazing.

TheCrazed420

Well i didnt even got there i stopped watching when he set things on fire, id be better of with some combat or some day time visuals.

There are a lot of valid complaints - mostly revolving around the marketing of the game, since not many people actually bother to look into the gameplay - but 'generic setting' always baffles me. Most of us here are massive BG fans, and honestly what is more generic than Forgotten Realms / AD&D? Honestly, I think FR pretty much defines the phrase 'generic fantasy' nowadays. You've got dragons, you've got wizards, you've got haughty elves, you've got gruff dwarves, you've got all big stupid orcs and small cowardly goblins, the trappings of what everybody thinks of when you say 'medieval fantasy' because that's pretty much exactly what it is.Makari

So why does it baffle you?

I think it will be a solid RPG, but not a big hit and won't sell well. I mean, how often do you see or hear about the game other than from the most hardcore of PC gamers? Hell, sometimes I forget it even exists because there has been a major lack of "buzz" surrounding the game.

I doubt it will go well with the younger players, I think it is slower paced, more grown up then what they like, and I doubt there is a great action sequence every 2 minutes (ME anyone?).

The older players on PC however will eat it up like no tomorrow (I think the main demographic for this game is in thier mid 20).

It ISan attempt to bring back the gameplay and game of old, the complexity, many layers, and blured lines.I hope it is just like that... the spiritual sequal of BG2, thoughtful, slower paced, to give a better image of the world, well thought out, well written, almost like a book in some ways...

Maddie_Larkin

well, this might be the case before Bioware told us the truth: this game is a multiplaformer from the get go. that is, DA:O was designed with console market in develpers' mind from the very beginning. I think it'll turn out to be more like a fantasy version of ME, which would definitely fare well in both PC and console markets. the whole "spiritual successor" to BG thing is more of part of their PR scheme. technically, ME is also a "spiritual successor" to BG2: simplified combat and class system on a 3D version of Infinity Egine, andromance subplots all that.

btw, mid-20? there's a way older BG crowd around.

I think it will be a rousing success.

Some of the female characters have really impressed me, and I really like it that some of them have been scantily clad, so the game might end up being an arousing success as well. Get it! An arousing success! Ha - I crack myself up! :)

The story will be top notch, as always. I'm not exactly sold on the combat, though. From what I've seen, it doesn't seem smooth or that immersive. Then again, I haven't played Baldur's Gate (if that's the game), so I wouldn't know. But I'm willing to give it a shot.

...but Bioware really is catering the lowest denominator with some of the more recent trailer *cough* violence trailer*cough*... Im_single

also stirs up the nudity disucssion. maybe Bioware is just so totally into the movie simulation business that they sell the game like a Hollywood flick.

someone has mentioned the complaints toward the so-called RPG "generic" setting. well, there are people getting tired of fantasy RPG, and asking for guns and sci-fi, but I think BG and dnders are mostly up for another fantasy CRPG anytime.

my personal concern though is that this time around Bioware has to create a fantasy world from the scratch and without the realms lore: the high level monsters, races, spells, legendsand etc. fantasy worlds in general do have basic elements, but the realms is the richest and the most colorful. Bioware's previous Jade Empire and ME universe don't really show much creativity. Fantasy world is not the problem, the concern is whether the gameworld is constructed with no more than or simply slightly above"basic" (or "generic") fantasy elements.

The setting, the art and the story so far seem really cheesy. Also who knows how the combat will play out. And finally a lot of the things that I enjoyed in Baldur's Gate games have not been shown yet.

I liked the wide variety of items and the detailed desciptions that accompanied them.

I enjoyed the challenging optional battles like Firkragg before the UnderDark or the Demilich, it was not just the system but the deisgn of them. The past few Bioware games had many battles that were too boring or easy.

I really enjoyed the size of the games. Not so much in how many hours it took me to complete them but the world in which they took place in felt 'big' In KOTOR while each planet was different they had no geographic connection while in Baldur's Gate the 1st time you get to enter the city it felt huge! It truly was the dominant landmark. In Baldur's Gate 2 it was all about scope, Amn felt 'normal' when compared to the Underdark and the other places you visit. I guess the generic part was very well done and since not every local was 100% exotic it made the truly different ones feel even more so.

The Infinity Engine games also had a really great combat system with tons of unique classes and interesting spells. I really wished that the their non D&D would focus out on fleshing out the differences between say a Ranger and a Paladin (example) instead of creating a few generic archtypes, which seems to be the trend in them. Also the powers in KOTOR and ME felt 'boring' in comparison to the D&D spells. I mean you go from summoning demons which will attack everyone who does not have protection from evil on and powerfull protection spells that can make you immune to all magical weapons and then moce onto things like 'push' and 'force lightning' It feels like DA just has the interface and thats it.

The story in Baldur's Gate games while far from perfect had way better starts than Dragon Age where you are a member of a movement that is basically fighting of an orcish/demon invasion. In BG1 your foster father was murdered and you are hunted by assasins while in BG2 you have to find Irenicus and by doing so further explore your nature.

Finally I also miss D&D, it has its flaws but it is better than the systems Bioware came up with. The classes, the worlds and the lore are more detailed. It also has by far one of the best developed cosmos for its patheon of gods. There are lots of unique aspects to it and games like MotB used several of them. Rashaman and concpets like The Wall were not somthing that existed in a lot of fantasy. The enemies in the system are rather good to, like how trolls need to be set on fire or acid to be destoryed, or the high magical resistance of drow elves, or how golems are near immunen to non blunt weapons. I am not asking for a D&D game but for Bioware to add the more interesting apects of it to their worlds.

I think it will be CRAP

1. Generic

2. Combat didn't look good (looked to slow)

3. Insane requiremetns, yup Bioware has gone LAZY graphics are NOT good there is NO justification for this.

4. Bioware is making it

I used to like Bioware but with garbage called Jade Empire and Mass Effect they've lost my respect.

IMO

I'm fairly disppointed with everything they've shown so far, but Dragon Age will still get great review scores and plenty of sales - if only because there aren't too many other quality RPGs on the market this gen.

Everyone has their own opinion of course - and maybe the people who have been waiting on this game just aren't here - but I've been looking forward to this game literally for years now.

Dragon Age is THE release of the year for me. It's the reason I bought my PC back in February. (The day after my PC arrived it was announced that the game had been delayed. LOL!)

I'm getting the collector's edition. I covet the cloth map and the tin box.

Finally I also miss D&D, it has its flaws but it is better than the systems Bioware came up with.

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Nikalai_88

what dnd brings about is more than "generic" fantasy stuff.

also, the standard that BG2 sets, especially the combat system,is quite tough to equal let alone top. As good as Obsidian has been, withdnd license,they still cannot make the combat in NWN2as complex and satisfactory as that of BG2. for one thing, thedefence and defence-breaching spells are almost useless.

I don't know if it will be a failure. Bioware is a talented developer. Though the setting is quite generic and the requirements including a quad core are more than concerning. biggest_loser

Duos are going the way of the Dodo.

It's one of the reasons everybody says GTA 4 is a lousy port - the game just runs better on a quad core. Simply put: those individuals doing the most complaining are stuck with duos. More and more games are being optimized for multi-core computers these days so it's not surprising that we're seeing this in the recommended specs list.

[QUOTE="Makari"]There are a lot of valid complaints - mostly revolving around the marketing of the game, since not many people actually bother to look into the gameplay - but 'generic setting' always baffles me. Most of us here are massive BG fans, and honestly what is more generic than Forgotten Realms / AD&D? Honestly, I think FR pretty much defines the phrase 'generic fantasy' nowadays. You've got dragons, you've got wizards, you've got haughty elves, you've got gruff dwarves, you've got all big stupid orcs and small cowardly goblins, the trappings of what everybody thinks of when you say 'medieval fantasy' because that's pretty much exactly what it is.biggest_loser

So why does it baffle you?

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="Makari"]There are a lot of valid complaints - mostly revolving around the marketing of the game, since not many people actually bother to look into the gameplay - but 'generic setting' always baffles me. Most of us here are massive BG fans, and honestly what is more generic than Forgotten Realms / AD&D? Honestly, I think FR pretty much defines the phrase 'generic fantasy' nowadays. You've got dragons, you've got wizards, you've got haughty elves, you've got gruff dwarves, you've got all big stupid orcs and small cowardly goblins, the trappings of what everybody thinks of when you say 'medieval fantasy' because that's pretty much exactly what it is.Makari

So why does it baffle you?

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't know if it will be a failure. Bioware is a talented developer. Though the setting is quite generic and the requirements including a quad core are more than concerning. GazaAli

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="Makari"]There are a lot of valid complaints - mostly revolving around the marketing of the game, since not many people actually bother to look into the gameplay - but 'generic setting' always baffles me. Most of us here are massive BG fans, and honestly what is more generic than Forgotten Realms / AD&D? Honestly, I think FR pretty much defines the phrase 'generic fantasy' nowadays. You've got dragons, you've got wizards, you've got haughty elves, you've got gruff dwarves, you've got all big stupid orcs and small cowardly goblins, the trappings of what everybody thinks of when you say 'medieval fantasy' because that's pretty much exactly what it is.Makari

So why does it baffle you?