Does HDMI cable brands matter?

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#1 reverend1985
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So I have a Vizio 1080i 42in plasma tv with Dish Network and the HD channels on it. When we first set it up I had to buy my own HD cables. So I head over to Target and buy the cheapest they had, GE brand HDMI cable at 19.99. Hooked it up and everything looks great. I go to best buy to get some more for our 55in Hitachi 1080i projection TV and the guy there tells me that if i purchase the more pricey brands ill get a better picture. The brands he was refering to were Sony, Philips, MonsterCable all like 40 bucks and up for HDMI. He then told me the real thin GE cable like I have is most likely only delivering 480p-540p and that buying more thicker, heavy cables would get me full 1080i-1080p. So is this guy BSing me to get a sale or is really telling me the truth?

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#2 Rusteater
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Total BS.

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#3 Captain__Tripps
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He is full of sh??... All HDMI cables will give you the same picture quality, it either works or it doesn't... (its digital) More expensive cables will be better constructed, but it will give pretty much no benefit. (possibly last longer)
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#4 rastan
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Big lie. HDMI is a digital cable that either works or doesn't. If you have it set to 1080i and the TV is receiving 1080i then you are sending the entire 1080i signal. The only truth he speaks of is that some HDMI cables are built with heavier gauge wires so that they will work at longer distance with no issues. That being said, I've used the sub $10 Monoprice cables with no issues over many TV's. In fact, I bought their high quality 35' 22AWG cable for my theater and it works with no issues up to 1080p.
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#5 snackdaddy
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That's a load. Go to Monoprice.com, depending on the length they start at $2.64

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#6 rastan
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By the way. These guys at these store really believe this BS as their bosses and company engrains this into their heads as this is where the company's make all of their money.
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#7 z4twenny
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He is full of sh??... All HDMI cables will give you the same picture quality, it either works or it doesn't... (its digital) More expensive cables will be better constructed, but it will give pretty much no benefit. (possibly last longer)Captain__Tripps

this...

i will say i bought an off brand hdmi cable and the video and sound would cut out intermittently probably due to shoddy construction. but as long as the cable is constructed well they'll all do the same job.

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#8 GTR12
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I don't agree with any of you, why would there be a new standard be made, it was 1.0, and we are at 1.3 now. And there is hardware that measures how much data it can carry and at what speed (bandwidth). I don't have the hardware, but a professional calibrator that set-up our TV did, and he did show a difference.

I really doubt he is telling a lie, because he doesn't sell cables at all, nor does he get any money in the progress. He gains nothing out of, why he carries the technology, I don't know, but he did show me. Also I don't like to use cheap cables for a expensive home theatre set, if something went wrong with the cables (shielding, latency, bad quality) and it broke my equipment I would be kicking myself.

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#9 rastan
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You are their perfect customer. Your cables will not damage your equipment. Also, I don't think any of us are pushing "cheap cables." I for one think that many of the Monoprice cables are of superior build quality than much of what you find in the the stores. They just happen to be cheaper as they don't have the marketing costs and profit margins (both for the manufacturer and seller) of the "Monster's" of the world. You also need to understand the different specifications don't necessarily mean a difference in cable, but do mean a difference in how the signal is handled between end points. A lot of sites have articles that will support all of this. An example is here at Gizmodo where they did a long series of tests: http://gizmodo.com/282725/the-truth-about-monster-cable-+-grand-finale-part-iii For reference, here is the breakdown of HDMI changes from the AVSForums: HDMI 1.0 Released December 2002. * Single-cable digital audio/video connection with a maximum bitrate of 4.9Gbps. Supports up to 165Mpixels/sec video (1080p60Hz or UXGA) and 8-channel/192kHz/24-bit audio. [edit] HDMI 1.1 Released May 2004. * Added support for DVD Audio. [edit] HDMI 1.2 Released August 2005. * Added support for One Bit Audio, used on Super Audio CDs, up to 8 channels. * Availability of HDMI Type A connector for PC sources. * Ability for PC sources to use native RGB color-space while retaining the option to support the YCbCr CE color space. * Requirement for HDMI 1.2 and later displays to support low-voltage sources. [edit] HDMI 1.2a Released December 2005. * Fully specifies Consumer Electronic Control (CEC) features, command sets, and CEC compliance tests. [edit] HDMI 1.3 Released 22 June 2006.[7] [8] * Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) * Optionally supports 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit xvYCC with Deep Color or over one billion colors, up from 24-bit sRGB or YCbCr in previous versions. * Incorporates automatic audio syncing (lip sync) capability. * Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.[9] TrueHD and DTS-HD are lossless audio codec formats used on HD DVDs and Blu-ray Discs. If the disc player can decode these streams into uncompressed audio, then HDMI 1.3 is not necessary, as all versions of HDMI can transport uncompressed audio. * Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.[10] * The Sony PlayStation 3 is the first product available on consumer market with HDMI 1.3.[11] * Epson has released the EMP-TW1000 as the first display supporting 30-bit deep color.[12] [edit] HDMI 1.3a Released 10 November 2006.[13] * Cable and Sink modifications for Type C * Source termination recommendation * Removed undershoot and maximum rise/fall time limits. * CEC capacitance limits changed * RGB video quantization range clarification * CEC commands for timer control brought back in an altered form, audio control commands added. * Concurrently released compliance test specification included.
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#10 snackdaddy
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Nice post Rastan.

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#11 GTR12
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Ok Rastan, I hear where you are coming from, but I still stand by my opinion, otherwise this argument about "which cable to buy" wouldn't be going on for 2-3 yrs, we would all have the same price/type of cables.

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#12 rastan
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It's free market and people can buy what they choose and of course many of the overpriced cables out there are perfectly good cables that are built extremely well. It's just that you can do some research and save quite a bit of money without sacrificing anything. I still laugh at my cousin who bought a $100 power cable for his receiver. We've tried it on all my equipment, and truthfully there is no difference between that $100 power cable or my freebie PC power cables. I tell him to this day (good natured poking fun) that the only reason he doesn't hear or see a difference is because he stopped at the power cable and obviously he should have bought the same quality cable to run the power from his circuit breaker to the outlet too.
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#13 Hipfireassasin
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The guy at Best Buy is probably looking for a bigger commission on you thinking that a more expensive cable will give you a better picture. I would say not to the naked eye could you get a better picture.
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#14 shawty1984
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Ok Rastan, I hear where you are coming from, but I still stand by my opinion, otherwise this argument about "which cable to buy" wouldn't be going on for 2-3 yrs, we would all have the same price/type of cables.

Amith12



As far as Im aware, there has been no argument. Just people who are not willing to listen to people who know what they are talking about.

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#15 istuffedsunny
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Get an HDMI cable over $100. If you can find one over $200, even better.
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#16 rastan
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Love the sponsored links on this one. Mine is showing a 6' 1.3b rated cable for $3.49.
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#17 snowren24
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Ok Rastan, I hear where you are coming from, but I still stand by my opinion, otherwise this argument about "which cable to buy" wouldn't be going on for 2-3 yrs, we would all have the same price/type of cables.

Amith12

you can have your own opinion, but its wrong. Its a fact that the cheaper cables provide the same signal the $100 ones do. Best Buy marks up their cables so much because thats where they really make a profit. their employees get cables for a few bucks with their discount, do you think best buy would really sell their cables at a loss? HDMI is digital, not analog, so even if there i some signal loss, it wont matter, you get the same picture. its either there, or its not with digital. the debate goes on and on because pople that paid too much for cables, dont want to feel completely ripped off, and your kidding your self if you think the big companies dont post articles or sponsor sites to say that the more expensive cables are better.