Does the lower resolution of 1024x768 matter?

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#1 slipknot0129
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Im looking at plasma's tv's for my xbox 360. In the $500 range. I notice all plasma's say they have 1024x768 resolution in that price range. Will that be bad for gaming? Will the picture be in a weird shape?

I figure I dont need 1080p since im playing on xbox 360. Do plasma's nowadays protect against screen burn in?

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#2 ChubbyGuy40
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You really wouldn't notice the difference between that res, 1280x720, and 1366x768.

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#3 Byshop  Moderator
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The image will be scaled correctly because these low res tvs are designed to scale 16:9 signals properly. Personally I'm not a fan of plasma because of the potential for burn in, but plasma displays are supposed to be much better now in that respect. Plasmas also do have the best color and contrast of any display type.

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#4 slipknot0129
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You really wouldn't notice the difference between that res, 1280x720, and 1366x768.

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But the difference on a plasma tv is 1024x768 vs 1366x768.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You really wouldn't notice the difference between that res, 1280x720, and 1366x768.

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But the difference on a plasma tv is 1024x768 vs 1366x768.

games don't support those resolution. it's either 480 or 720 or 1080. u'll be playin games @ 720 plasmas nowdays have anti-burn in protection. beside, the xbox 360 has a screensaver to prevent damage on the screen after 10min of inactivity
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#6 sn4k3_64
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You really wouldn't notice the difference between that res, 1280x720, and 1366x768.

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You definitely would! 1280x720 isnt even hd, 1366x768 is 768p hd
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[QUOTE="sn4k3_64"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You really wouldn't notice the difference between that res, 1280x720, and 1366x768.

You definitely would! 1280x720 isnt even hd, 1366x768 is 768p hd

1280x720 is 720p, the accepted minimum standard for a signal to be categorised as high definition.
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Why? I had to consider this way back when we got our 768p, i was under the impression even 1080p has trickled down to budget models :?
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Why? I had to consider this way back when we got our 768p, i was under the impression even 1080p has trickled down to budget models :?X360PS3AMD05

Lowest one I've seen is a Panasonic, which is the best maker of plasma, but some say it can have phospher lag. Only a very small amount of reviews said that though. so a 500 dollar plasma at 720p or 670 for a panasonic 1080p? I know what I'd choose if I had the extra money for it

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1024x768 won't display a 1280x720 16:9 as well as a native 1280x720 screen would and if you want to connect it to a PC you might have trouble getting a non-distorted picture without resorting to installing other programs. I'd make sure you get one with at least a 1280x720 pixel panel which will display an unaltered 720p feed.
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Im looking at plasma's tv's for my xbox 360. In the $500 range. I notice all plasma's say they have 1024x768 resolution in that price range. Will that be bad for gaming? Will the picture be in a weird shape?

I figure I dont need 1080p since im playing on xbox 360. Do plasma's nowadays protect against screen burn in?

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Get a plasma. Panasonic and Samsung sell 40in models at that price. If you are only going 720p, do that. The picture is far more stable, and maintains detail better during fast motion.

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#12 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Im looking at plasma's tv's for my xbox 360. In the $500 range. I notice all plasma's say they have 1024x768 resolution in that price range. Will that be bad for gaming? Will the picture be in a weird shape?

I figure I dont need 1080p since im playing on xbox 360. Do plasma's nowadays protect against screen burn in?

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Get a plasma. Panasonic and Samsung sell 40in models at that price. If you are only going 720p, do that. The picture is far more stable, and maintains detail better during fast motion.

The Panasonics at the price range do 1024x768 from the spec sheets I believe. Samsung does 1366x768. Even then though, plasma scaling is incredible. I think to see the difference you'd really have to sit at PC monitor distance to see it. Maybe not though, only someone who's spent plenty of time comparing both, in person, could tell.

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720p is perfectly fine for video gaming as most games are 720p. In fact some 720p sets look better than 1080p sets because they can play 720p natively whereas 1080p sets need to upscale 720p to 1080p and that process requires a good scaler or it will introduce its own artifacts. 1080p is really reserved for Blu-Ray right now as that is really where the content exists for it. Unfortunately, to really enjoy 1080p you have to sit close enough to the TV where the increase in resolution is visible to the human eye and that's within 6 feet from a 50" set. Any further and the differences you are seeing have nothing to do with resolution.
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720p is perfectly fine for video gaming as most games are 720p. In fact some 720p sets look better than 1080p sets because they can play 720p natively whereas 1080p sets need to upscale 720p to 1080p and that process requires a good scaler or it will introduce its own artifacts. 1080p is really reserved for Blu-Ray right now as that is really where the content exists for it. Unfortunately, to really enjoy 1080p you have to sit close enough to the TV where the increase in resolution is visible to the human eye and that's within 6 feet from a 50" set. Any further and the differences you are seeing have nothing to do with resolution. rastan

Let's not forget that most 720p sets are actually 768p sets. Less scaling does not necessarily equate to better scaling.

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#15 KaY_86
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get an LCD
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#16 rastan
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Get an LCD- Probably not the best choice Heirren is correct about many 720p tv's are actually 768, but for some reason usually the scaling doesn't introduce as any problems on these sets as say a cheaper 1080p upconverting TV does. Maybe it's because going to 1080p requires more horsepower to scale properly. In addition, I always wondered why these 768 Tv's don't offer "true 720p" by just not using the other 48 pixels and having a "small letterbox." My guess is that they ould look even sharper, but then it would be hared to sell the benefits of 1080p:-) To this day, one of the best flat panel pictures I've seen was a Pioneer Kuros 50" 720p tv. Since then I've seen the 1080p versions and those are incredible sets also, but the difference is less than you'd expect to see. It comes does to the overall PQ and with the Kuros, the overall picture is so natural and film like that, all the individual specs don't really matter.
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#17 ChubbyGuy40
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Well since going from 720 -> 1080 is more than double the pixels, I'd imagine it's pretty damn hard to fix in the extra million pixels :P the gap from the 1024x768 from 720p seems pretty small, so it'd be hard to notice the difference maybe? Same goes for 720p to 1366x768

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#18 rastan
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Definitely the strict doubling of pixels would be more noticeable in sheer volume, but that's basic scaling in that you're really just duplicating each pixel, not trying to drop/add pixels to stretch the picture to fit which causes more distortion.
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[QUOTE="rastan"]720p is perfectly fine for video gaming as most games are 720p. In fact some 720p sets look better than 1080p sets because they can play 720p natively whereas 1080p sets need to upscale 720p to 1080p and that process requires a good scaler or it will introduce its own artifacts. 1080p is really reserved for Blu-Ray right now as that is really where the content exists for it. Unfortunately, to really enjoy 1080p you have to sit close enough to the TV where the increase in resolution is visible to the human eye and that's within 6 feet from a 50" set. Any further and the differences you are seeing have nothing to do with resolution. Heirren

Let's not forget that most 720p sets are actually 768p sets. Less scaling does not necessarily equate to better scaling.

All 720p sets are 720p. 1366 x768 is a 768p set, not 720p.

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#20 Byshop  Moderator
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All 720p sets are 720p. 1366 x768 is a 768p set, not 720p.

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This is a semantic argument. Many 1366x768 sets will advertise themselves as being "720p" sets.

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#21 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

All 720p sets are 720p. 1366 x768 is a 768p set, not 720p.

Byshop

This is a semantic argument. Many 1366x768 sets will advertise themselves as being "720p" sets.

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Not really. Regardless of what is advertised, 1366 x 768 is not and will never be a 720p set.

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#22 Byshop  Moderator
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Not really. Regardless of what is advertised, 1366 x 768 is not and will never be a 720p set.

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This is pretty commonly known that the vast majority of tvs that call themselves 720p sets are in fact 1366x768 (it's been pointed out in this very thread). If you want to argue that the set should be called 768p instead of 720p because it's not a 1:1 pixel map, then that is by definition a semantic argument and in no way helps the OP with his question.

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kinda kills the point in having an hd tv . 1080p or bust

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#24 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Not really. Regardless of what is advertised, 1366 x 768 is not and will never be a 720p set.

Byshop

This is pretty commonly known that the vast majority of tvs that call themselves 720p sets are in fact 1366x768 (it's been pointed out in this very thread). If you want to argue that the set should be called 768p instead of 720p because it's not a 1:1 pixel map, then that is by definition a semantic argument and in no way helps the OP with his question.

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Maybe you should reread what I quoted.

Someone said the majority of 720p TV's were infact 1366 x 768. This is incorrect and needs pointing out regardless of whether it helps the OP or not. 1366 x 768 is not and never will be and never can be a 720p TV, it is a 768p TV.

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Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. @Shawty it's all marketing. They sell 31.5" screens as 32 inchers. Theres 720p tv's that do 1440x900 its no 900p Tv. Your just not getting it... @TC, Plasma's will out perform most LCDs in most situations... PERIOD. Worry more about quality and less about specs. (also shop around for the best deal) A Panni or Sammy and you should be good. The Sammy Plasma's are slimmer, lighter, and have more features including 1 extra HDMI port. Panni Plasma's use less power, better input response (supposedly) and have the better overall PQ. Both can e had at or around $500. Choose either features & style or PQ & energy savings. I'm still on the fence. I need at least 3 Hdmi ports, may just jump on a 1080p model for the extra port.
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#26 rastan
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kinda kills the point in having an hd tv . 1080p or bust

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This makes no sense. 720p is HDTV. The only thing that is 1080p in any quantity is Blu-Ray. There are no TV broadcasts in 1080p and there are very few games that are natively 1080p (something like 10 total between PS3 and 360). In sum just because most of what you see is 720p doesn't mean it "kills the point in having hdtv."
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Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. @Shawty it's all marketing. They sell 31.5" screens as 32 inchers. Theres 720p tv's that do 1440x900 its no 900p Tv. Your just not getting it... @TC, Plasma's will out perform most LCDs in most situations... PERIOD. Worry more about quality and less about specs. (also shop around for the best deal) A Panni or Sammy and you should be good. The Sammy Plasma's are slimmer, lighter, and have more features including 1 extra HDMI port. Panni Plasma's use less power, better input response (supposedly) and have the better overall PQ. Both can e had at or around $500. Choose either features & style or PQ & energy savings. I'm still on the fence. I need at least 3 Hdmi ports, may just jump on a 1080p model for the extra port.YoungSinatra25


Its not opinionated, its fact, learn the difference. If someone states something that is wrong, I will correct it.

A TV (or Monitor) that is 1440 x 900 is not 720p, never will be 720p and never can be 720p. A TV (or Monitor) of 1440 x 900 is simply 900p, its pretty simple. Or do you think that a TV of 1920 x 1080 is 720p also? Now do you understand how ridiculous your argument is?

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Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. @Shawty it's all marketing. They sell 31.5" screens as 32 inchers. Theres 720p tv's that do 1440x900 its no 900p Tv. Your just not getting it... @TC, Plasma's will out perform most LCDs in most situations... PERIOD. Worry more about quality and less about specs. (also shop around for the best deal) A Panni or Sammy and you should be good. The Sammy Plasma's are slimmer, lighter, and have more features including 1 extra HDMI port. Panni Plasma's use less power, better input response (supposedly) and have the better overall PQ. Both can e had at or around $500. Choose either features & style or PQ & energy savings. I'm still on the fence. I need at least 3 Hdmi ports, may just jump on a 1080p model for the extra port.YoungSinatra25

Yeah, he really does.

@shawty Yes, of course 720p as a resolution is 1280x720. Everyone in here gets that but you derail the thread with your unhelpful arguments. It's like you aren't interested in helping the OP at all but rather just arguing any minor technical detail you can wrap your head around. My question is why? If you really want to discuss the merits of 720p (which is essentially a marketing term and nothing else) then why not create your own thread in which that is the topic rather than randomizing other people's threads?

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[QUOTE="YoungSinatra25"]Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. @Shawty it's all marketing. They sell 31.5" screens as 32 inchers. Theres 720p tv's that do 1440x900 its no 900p Tv. Your just not getting it... @TC, Plasma's will out perform most LCDs in most situations... PERIOD. Worry more about quality and less about specs. (also shop around for the best deal) A Panni or Sammy and you should be good. The Sammy Plasma's are slimmer, lighter, and have more features including 1 extra HDMI port. Panni Plasma's use less power, better input response (supposedly) and have the better overall PQ. Both can e had at or around $500. Choose either features & style or PQ & energy savings. I'm still on the fence. I need at least 3 Hdmi ports, may just jump on a 1080p model for the extra port.Byshop

Yeah, he really does.

@shawty Yes, of course 720p as a resolution is 1280x720. Everyone in here gets that but you derail the thread with your unhelpful arguments. It's like you aren't interested in helping the OP at all but rather just arguing any minor technical detail you can wrap your head around. My question is why? If you really want to discuss the merits of 720p (which is essentially a marketing term and nothing else) then why not create your own thread in which that is the topic rather than randomizing other people's threads?

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Two people posted incorrect terms, I was correcting them. If you don't like this then complain to the mods instead of derailing this topic further.

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#30 Byshop  Moderator
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Two people posted incorrect terms, I was correcting them. If you don't like this then complain to the mods instead of derailing this topic further.

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Unfortunately on this board they do not moderate off topic posting within threads to my knowledge. Otherwise I would have already instead of nicely asking you to stop.

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#31 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Two people posted incorrect terms, I was correcting them. If you don't like this then complain to the mods instead of derailing this topic further.

Byshop

Unfortunately on this board they do not moderate off topic posting within threads to my knowledge. Otherwise I would have already instead of nicely asking you to stop.

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They moderate all forums, so again, complain instead of derailing the topic further.

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Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. YoungSinatra25

I suppose it's much easier to ignore him. :)

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#33 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="YoungSinatra25"]Shawty just kills threads with overly opinionated statements. Then litters the topic by quoting over and over... Arguing with every poster over and over till BOOM topic murder.. Byshop

I suppose it's much easier to ignore him. :)

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Or, for the third time of asking, you could now stop derailing this thread even more by either complaining to a moderator or just don't reply to my posts. What started all this was a post by me which was vaguely on topic as I was correcting someone on the information they were posting to the OP. Your post above proves you are no better than me in what you say I am doing.

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Continuing to ignore...

slipknot0129, what is your price range? Depending on what you are looking to spend you may be able to get a proper 720p set for the same amount of money. Generally speaking, phosphor based displays have the best picture quality overall but there are concerns regarding longevity. I travel for work and 1024x768 Plasmas are popular in hotels (presumably due to price). While there's a noticable difference between these and the 1080p DLP and LCD displays I have at home, they aren't all that bad. As mentioned, console games are displayed properly albeit with some minor detail loss due to the difference in native res. However, the difference is nothing like the difference between 480p and 720p.

What is more imporant to you in terms of display quality? If rich color and high contrast are more important to you then you probably want to go with the plasma. If resolution, detail and there being no chance of burn-in ever are more important then LCD might be the better way to go.

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#35 rastan
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Plasmas are prevalent in hotels and bars because they provide very wide viewing angles unlike LCD. Also, resolution makes no difference between LCD and plasma as 720p on plasma =720p on LCD and the same for every other resolution out there.
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#36 sukraj
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Panasonic plasma tvs are really good and so are samsung.