Doing a Budget Upgrade... thoughts...?

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#1 aeatyes
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Hey, all, I'm doing a budget upgrade for my aging Core 2 Duo system to hold me over until Ivybridge and the next gen of GPU's, and I wanted to know what you think of the new system vs the old system, and the parts, etc...

Current Rig:

E8400 Core2

640gb HDD w/ Windows 7 64bit

4gb DDR2 RAM

HD5870

ASRock Twin Turbos Mobo

750W Corsair PSU

NZXT Tempest Case

New Rig:

Intel i2500k

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253" title="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157253">ASRock Mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428" title="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428">G.SKill RAM

I'll be keeping my old Case, PSU, and HDD.

The upgrade will cost just over $400.

Thoughts and comments? Is this is a viable and reasonable upgrade to tide me over until Ivybridge? Thanks all.

Cheers.

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#2 kaitanuvax
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You don't get a i5 2500k to hold you over until Ivy Bridge, you get it to hold you over for half a decade...

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From my understanding is that Ivy Bridge is just a die shrink and should be a 10-15% increase in performance over the current 2500k/2600k and so on. It seems rather silly and pointless to pick up a Sandy Bridge and then upgrade to Ivy Bridge. If you're really keen to the idea of getting Ivy Bridge, then just wait for it to come out and pick it then.
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#4 commander
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You don't get a i5 2500k to hold you over until Ivy Bridge, you get it to hold you over for half a decade...

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yep it's lightning fast, let's all cpu's eat dust besides i7-970, i7-980, i7-990 and i7-2600 It's almost double as fast as a phenom II x4 955 and that cpu is more than enough to play todays games I suppose you will keep your hd 5870 too. Just so you know , The e 8400 is far from cancelled out, that's still a very good cpu, off course it's not a quad , i don't think you have performance loss in games though, i mean it's on the same level as the phenom II x3, 720.0 you have a quad for 240$ at newegg, the q9505 ,that's as fast as a phenom II x4 965. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115060 I can't see why you would upgrade though, i would only upgrade if you crossfire that hd 5870 or buy a gtx 580 or something like that.
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besides you do realize that asrock mobo you want to buy doesn't support sli or crossfire? and your current mobo does support that So if you find a second hand hd 5870 and put that q9505 you'll have a much stronger system than you would have with the i5-2500 and one hd 5870 (for gaming that is)
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Unless you're loaded, I would wait till Ivy Bridge. Otherwise, 2500k will last you a long long time.
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#7 aeatyes
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Thanks for all the feedback; I suppose, then, that it would be better to just pick up a 2600k and an SLI/Xfire capable mobo, and hold onto that for 3-4 years as I have done with my Core2.

I do plan on upgrading my GPU, but not at the moment; ideally, I would like to get my hands on a GTX580.

I realize that my originally proposed mobo is not dual-card capable, but since I was planning on doing a completely new rig down the line, I wouldn't mind the single card solution in the interium.

Anyway, I think I might just go with a 2600k and a better mobo and forgoe Ivybridge until whatever new architecture comes out after it.

Cheers!

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You'll see a much bigger difference by just overclocking your CPU and getting a better videocard...
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You'll see a much bigger difference by just overclocking your CPU and getting a better videocard...superclocked

Yes I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy those 20 fps dips in intense fight scenarios in BF3.

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[QUOTE="superclocked"]You'll see a much bigger difference by just overclocking your CPU and getting a better videocard...kaitanuvax

Yes I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy those 20 fps dips in intense fight scenarios in BF3.

If I were running an older i7 generation, or hell, even a Q series, I might consider overclocking the CPU and holding out until Ivybridge, but my Core 2 Duo is old, and so is the DDR2 RAM that's in the equally old Mobo. My 5870 is still a viable card, and if I wanted to, I could nab another for Xfire until the HD7000 and GTX600's release.

As it stands, I'd rather grab a 2500k or 2600k, and completely bypass the Ivybridge release until there is a wide range of offerings and some benchmarks, or even until the next architecture style. Right now, all I'm debating is the mobo.

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[QUOTE="superclocked"]You'll see a much bigger difference by just overclocking your CPU and getting a better videocard...kaitanuvax

Yes I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy those 20 fps dips in intense fight scenarios in BF3.

The e 8400 is pretty strong, don't underestimate it it's better than a i3-550. However with stronger video setups it could bottleneck like with a gtx 580.
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Thanks for all the feedback; I suppose, then, that it would be better to just pick up a 2600k and an SLI/Xfire capable mobo, and hold onto that for 3-4 years as I have done with my Core2.

I do plan on upgrading my GPU, but not at the moment; ideally, I would like to get my hands on a GTX580.

I realize that my originally proposed mobo is not dual-card capable, but since I was planning on doing a completely new rig down the line, I wouldn't mind the single card solution in the interium.

Anyway, I think I might just go with a 2600k and a better mobo and forgoe Ivybridge until whatever new architecture comes out after it.

Cheers!

aeatyes
All depends on your budget off course, The i7 2600k is faster than the i5-2500k but price/performance ratio is low That means it isn't much faster than the i5-2500 and it costs 320$ while the i5-2500k costs only 210$. Still it is faster , for games it is the fastest. Maybe the current pentium hexacores will outperform it with future games (when more cores are supported) but the difference will still be small because the sandy bridge architecture is clock for clock faster. I wouldn't bother with that gtx 580, you can buy a hd 5870 a lot cheaper and those crossfired hd 5870's are 30 procent faster than a gtx 580. Off course if you're planning to sli gtx 580's that's a different story but if you're not planning that in the near future , the gtx 580 is a bad idea.
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#13 aeatyes
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[QUOTE="aeatyes"]

Thanks for all the feedback; I suppose, then, that it would be better to just pick up a 2600k and an SLI/Xfire capable mobo, and hold onto that for 3-4 years as I have done with my Core2.

I do plan on upgrading my GPU, but not at the moment; ideally, I would like to get my hands on a GTX580.

I realize that my originally proposed mobo is not dual-card capable, but since I was planning on doing a completely new rig down the line, I wouldn't mind the single card solution in the interium.

Anyway, I think I might just go with a 2600k and a better mobo and forgoe Ivybridge until whatever new architecture comes out after it.

Cheers!

evildead6789

All depends on your budget off course, The i7 2600k is faster than the i5-2500k but price/performance ratio is low That means it isn't much faster than the i5-2500 and it costs 320$ while the i5-2500k costs only 210$. Still it is faster , for games it is the fastest. Maybe the current pentium hexacores will outperform it with future games (when more cores are supported) but the difference will still be small because the sandy bridge architecture is clock for clock faster. I wouldn't bother with that gtx 580, you can buy a hd 5870 a lot cheaper and those crossfired hd 5870's are 30 procent faster than a gtx 580. Off course if you're planning to sli gtx 580's that's a different story but if you're not planning that in the near future , the gtx 580 is a bad idea.

Sounds solid. I'm going to just run with a 2500k; by the time we need more than four cores, I'll be comfortable with upgrading. Now I just need to decide on whether I want a single or dual card solution for GPU.

Cheers.

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[QUOTE="superclocked"]You'll see a much bigger difference by just overclocking your CPU and getting a better videocard...kaitanuvax

Yes I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy those 20 fps dips in intense fight scenarios in BF3.

It depends on if he went with air or a custom water loop. My framerate hasn't dropped below 40fps yet, but I do run my e8400 at 4.5GHz using a custom loop. 3.6GHz is a decent overclock on air.. Either way, he would still see a bigger improvement by getting a better GPU and overclocking...