Dragon Age 2 Demo is like watching a movie and pressing 1.2.3....

Dragon Age 2 Demo is like watching a movie and pressing 1.2.3....

the demo sucked no way near DAO, it was like 2 min playing (when i say play, i mean pressing 1,2 buttons) and a cutsene, again 2 min and a cutsene.

and what the hell, they fast forward all the arrival to kirkwall, dunno why,but the game is annoying i cant get into the game enough, and whats up with all the short annoying loading times in a middle of a cutsene?

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THE SKILLS?!!??!?!?! alchemy, tracking, traps,

in short, it feels like DA origin was actully improvment of the sequel.

No need for your own thread http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27588008&page=14&tag=topics%3Blastpagebonafidetk

They removed skills it's been confirmed

its a demo so im sure thats why things were cut out. idk having more cutscenes is kinda nice, seeing as how my main draw to DA:O was the story. im surprised and find myself really liking the demo, the combat feels a lot more fluid than DA:O if that makes any sense. will be getting this game, but not at launch, will wait for price to drop

You guys do realise what you play in the demo takes place near the begining of the game yes? So its obvious you wont have all the slots unlocked and characters developed. From what I have played the game is fine, and will be better with the full release. From what i have read its still hard as hell and it still requires you to use the pause function.

You guys do realise what you play in the demo takes place near the begining of the game yes? So its obvious you wont have all the slots unlocked and characters developed. From what I have played the game is fine, and will be better with the full release. From what i have read its still hard as hell and it still requires you to use the pause function.

rzepak

no skills is lame u can actully see they rushed the game.... thats why they removed the skills.kingeliran

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

You guys do realise what you play in the demo takes place near the begining of the game yes? So its obvious you wont have all the slots unlocked and characters developed. From what I have played the game is fine, and will be better with the full release. From what i have read its still hard as hell and it still requires you to use the pause function.

FelipeInside

They've definately made it more tailored to the console controller. From what I've seen in the demo, you don't need to pause and think of tactics as much as you did in the first game.

I still enjoyed it, but I would have preferred they had stuck closer to the original. I kinda had fun when all but the female templar knight died when fighting the Ogre and a bunch of the small darkspawn. I was able to actually move out of the way of the ogre's charge, stomp and punch attacks, move around to its back and attack it. I liked how good the hit detection was.

They've definately made it more tailored to the console controller. From what I've seen in the demo, you don't need to pause and think of tactics as much as you did in the first game.

I still enjoyed it, but I would have preferred they had stuck closer to the original. I kinda had fun when all but the female templar knight died when fighting the Ogre and a bunch of the small darkspawn. I was able to actually move out of the way of the ogre's charge, stomp and punch attacks, move around to its back and attack it. I liked how good the hit detection was.

-Unreal-

have fun dying with that logic (in red). The combat hasn't changed from DA:O, they only use flashy animations to sync it up better

Troll? or you actualy expect a level 1 to start off with skills !!!??!?

The demo is great, grapichs look nice, gameplay is awesome, the loading? Lol it takes half a second?

If not you better get a new system or play on lower specs.

What ive seen tasted like more, great game.

and again, its a freaking demo !

What is everyone complaining about? This is the type of stuff you all have been screaming about. Everyone always moaning about story over everything, constantly crying about deep games (mechanic wise) that are "ruined" by crappy stories...well...here ya go...game devs are listening to you!

:lol:

Personally I think the focus on story and lame brain "character interaction" has been killing games especially RPG's. At least for me...I really hate this kind of game design. Give me cool environments to explore, deep mechanics, awesome character progression and skills, tactical (even turn based) combat, intersting worlds, and atmosphere over story/cinematics any day of the week.

Anyways for me the first Dragon Age felt like playing/watching a soap opera for gamers and bored me to tears. The second one looks the same, so I'll probably skip it. Mass Effect 1/2 I had to play as a 3rd person shooter instead of a RPG...which worked well because I did enjoy them. But still...not what I look for in a RPG.

There's absolutely no doubt the quality of Bioware games is top notch...and I am sure for the people who enjoy them their games are fantastic. For me, they make some of the most boring RPG's on the planet. I think the last Bioware game I really enjoyed was NWN.

Dragon Age 2 Demo is like watching a movie and pressing 1.2.3....

the demo sucked no way near DAO, it was like 2 min playing (when i say play, i mean pressing 1,2 buttons) and a cutsene, again 2 min and a cutsene.

and what the hell, they fast forward all the arrival to kirkwall, dunno why,but the game is annoying i cant get into the game enough, and whats up with all the short annoying loading times in a middle of a cutsene?

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THE SKILLS?!!??!?!?! alchemy, tracking, traps,

in short, it feels like DA origin was actully improvment of the sequel.

kingeliran

It's a rough, rushed demo. My first impression of it was horrible.

I played through a second time as a different character and enjoyed it a lot more, but it's still pretty awful. They skipped a lot of gameplay. Naturally it won't be like that in the full game. I hope.

Why did this demo suck so bad? They have clearly eliminated the essence of the RPG - that dragon age was...The graphics are cartoonish now...

This looks like Devil May Cry + Dragon Age Origins = DA2. There was no BLOOD? Usually after a battle, everybody was loathed in blood and there was actual skill involved because if you were bad in your combat choices (pausing and utilizing every class's unique moves) you were pretty much toast.

And yes this game is commercialized to show everyone how RPG's are.. but they have FAILED..They didn't do that to Mass Effect 2 and I hope that Mass Effect 3 is dumbed down like Dragon Age was.

These stupid actions and light combinations make the game look more like toonish than anything else... Where are the damage numbers?!

Why does this mechanism suck so bad? If only BioWare could come on this thread and answer...

What is everyone complaining about? This is the type of stuff you all have been screaming about. Everyone always moaning about story over everything, constantly crying about deep games (mechanic wise) that are "ruined" by crappy stories...well...here ya go...game devs are listening to you!

:lol:

Personally I think the focus on story and lame brain "character interaction" has been killing games especially RPG's. At least for me...I really hate this kind of game design. Give me cool environments to explore, deep mechanics, awesome character progression and skills, tactical (even turn based) combat, intersting worlds, and atmosphere over story/cinematics any day of the week.

Anyways for me the first Dragon Age felt like playing/watching a soap opera for gamers and bored me to tears. The second one looks the same, so I'll probably skip it. Mass Effect 1/2 I had to play as a 3rd person shooter instead of a RPG...which worked well because I did enjoy them. But still...not what I look for in a RPG.

There's absolutely no doubt the quality of Bioware games is top notch...and I am sure for the people who enjoy them their games are fantastic. For me, they make some of the most boring RPG's on the planet. I think the last Bioware game I really enjoyed was NWN.

Renevent42

[QUOTE="kingeliran"]

Dragon Age 2 Demo is like watching a movie and pressing 1.2.3....

the demo sucked no way near DAO, it was like 2 min playing (when i say play, i mean pressing 1,2 buttons) and a cutsene, again 2 min and a cutsene.

and what the hell, they fast forward all the arrival to kirkwall, dunno why,but the game is annoying i cant get into the game enough, and whats up with all the short annoying loading times in a middle of a cutsene?

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THE SKILLS?!!??!?!?! alchemy, tracking, traps,

in short, it feels like DA origin was actully improvment of the sequel.

sSubZerOo

Dragon Age 2 Demo is like watching a movie and pressing 1.2.3....

the demo sucked no way near DAO, it was like 2 min playing (when i say play, i mean pressing 1,2 buttons) and a cutsene, again 2 min and a cutsene.

and what the hell, they fast forward all the arrival to kirkwall, dunno why,but the game is annoying i cant get into the game enough, and whats up with all the short annoying loading times in a middle of a cutsene?

AND WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THE SKILLS?!!??!?!?! alchemy, tracking, traps,

in short, it feels like DA origin was actully improvment of the sequel.

kingeliran

****in' keyboards, how do they work?

The demo was okay, but I wasn't a fan of the first so my opinion doesn't matter. :P

Why did this demo suck so bad? They have clearly eliminated the essence of the RPG - that dragon age was...The graphics are cartoonish now...

.... They both have a unique artstyles, and your going to have to show us how its cartoony compared to the first..

This looks like Devil May Cry + Dragon Age Origins = DA2. There was no BLOOD? Usually after a battle, everybody was loathed in blood and there was actual skill involved because if you were bad in your combat choices (pausing and utilizing every class's unique moves) you were pretty much toast.

That sounds like a problem of your game.. My game had plenty of blood.. And the demo it self got pretty tough in the end.. And I am assuming this was at normal difficulty so we can assume there is going to be at least 2 harder difficulties..

And yes this game is commercialized to show everyone how RPG's are.. but they have FAILED..They didn't do that to Mass Effect 2 and I hope that Mass Effect 3 is dumbed down like Dragon Age was.

These stupid actions and light combinations make the game look more like toonish than anything else... Where are the damage numbers?!

.. You have the option to turn them on in the main options menu... And I am trying figure out what mean about the first one.. Because at level 1 many actions.. Hell in the first one if your a thief or warrior you have very few abilities.. The only thing I noticed in difference is the combat obviously faster..

Why does this mechanism suck so bad? If only BioWare could come on this thread and answer...

Marilyn_slimson

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]

What is everyone complaining about? This is the type of stuff you all have been screaming about. Everyone always moaning about story over everything, constantly crying about deep games (mechanic wise) that are "ruined" by crappy stories...well...here ya go...game devs are listening to you!

:lol:

Personally I think the focus on story and lame brain "character interaction" has been killing games especially RPG's. At least for me...I really hate this kind of game design. Give me cool environments to explore, deep mechanics, awesome character progression and skills, tactical (even turn based) combat, intersting worlds, and atmosphere over story/cinematics any day of the week.

Anyways for me the first Dragon Age felt like playing/watching a soap opera for gamers and bored me to tears. The second one looks the same, so I'll probably skip it. Mass Effect 1/2 I had to play as a 3rd person shooter instead of a RPG...which worked well because I did enjoy them. But still...not what I look for in a RPG.

There's absolutely no doubt the quality of Bioware games is top notch...and I am sure for the people who enjoy them their games are fantastic. For me, they make some of the most boring RPG's on the planet. I think the last Bioware game I really enjoyed was NWN.

Gooeykat

Its debatable, I can't agree if someone says one is clearly better than the other. The graphics are locked in medium also. The visuals are clearly different and have different style. The visuals look more clean but don't know if its just the demo levels but I felt it was less detailed. The facial experssions are less visible detailed though I felt. I don't think its bad nor much better just a different direction. I'm fine with it, fine with both was fine with DA:Opcgamer_07

If it's locked on medium then we can't tell yet. From the gameplay videos I have seen, DA2 looks a lot more "simple" "console" graphics-like than it's predecessor. I'm not talking about combat, content or story.... just the looks.FelipeInside

I wish there was a way to unlock DX11 features on the demo...

This is why I dont post here anymore, Gamespot forums seem to attract the most opinionated, and hateful gamers I have ever seen. have fun nitpicking and hating everygame that comes out. This place is so lame, complaing about not having all the skills available to you in a demo? Please

This is why I dont post here anymore, Gamespot forums seem to attract the most opinionated, and hateful gamers I have ever seen. have fun nitpicking and hating everygame that comes out. This place is so lame, complaing about not having all the skills available to you in a demo? Please

Advid-Gamer

I know, it's terrible, but at least there is a decent community on the legacy console forums.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

You guys do realise what you play in the demo takes place near the begining of the game yes? So its obvious you wont have all the slots unlocked and characters developed. From what I have played the game is fine, and will be better with the full release. From what i have read its still hard as hell and it still requires you to use the pause function.

FelipeInside

the demo is actually a lot like the beginning to Prototype. You select your **** and they let you tool around with a lot of cool skills you get at later levels, then the plot line kicks in and goes "wait a minute" and BOOP! your skills are taken away and your back to level 1 basic noob.

as far as the gameplay of DA2, well, to be perfectly honest 80% of the fun for me in DA1 was the plot and progression. Skills and stiff are cool, as is tactical gameplay, but for a franchise like DA it would benefit greatly from being both fun to play and fun to watch.

In my experience, Dragon Age Origins was fun the first time through because it was fresh. The story was new, and the gameplay was acceptable enough. The second time through, it was a chore . Not gonna lie; the Origins stories were decent enough, but ultimately negligable. The gameplay was, dare I say, tedious...and definately boring to watch.

I will say this: Bioware is famous/infamous for streamlining gameplay. Theyre a developer that not only learn from their mistakes (which is tough, considering the first installments of their games are top notch), but they do not rest on their laurels and will often do a 360 to change up the pace, gameplay, and storytelling of their games.

ME1 and ME2 are similiar, but ultimately completely different games despite being in both the same franchise and the same genre. And, in my humble opinion, ME2 is the superior game.

Bioware is, in short, gaming evolution-lightning in a bottle...the change they do is great, significant, and arguably for the better...but some people cant handle it

/end drunken rant

/gnight

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]For those who have played the demo. ARE THE GRAPHICS BETTER than Part 1 or not...?shane_orija

i think the textures will be awesome.

the reason people are disappointed is because the demo takes place in ugly blighted land where nothing grows. Basically imagine a forest without the trees and grass and fury animals. Horrible, right?

Exactly

and thats why people are disappointed...because it looks horrible...like its supposed to.

[QUOTE="shane_orija"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]For those who have played the demo. ARE THE GRAPHICS BETTER than Part 1 or not...?mrbojangles25

i think the textures will be awesome.

the reason people are disappointed is because the demo takes place in ugly blighted land where nothing grows. Basically imagine a forest without the trees and grass and fury animals. Horrible, right?

Exactly

and thats why people are disappointed...because it looks horrible...like its supposed to.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="shane_orija"] The character models are awesome, much better than in the first. The textures are kinda meh.Empirefrtw

i think the textures will be awesome.

the reason people are disappointed is because the demo takes place in ugly blighted land where nothing grows. Basically imagine a forest without the trees and grass and fury animals. Horrible, right?

Exactly

and thats why people are disappointed...because it looks horrible...like its supposed to.

the textures were good imo, I just thought the armor looked too "busy", if that made any sense.

I mean, we come across this templar and he is wearingbasically a fancy trenchcoat...wtf give that dude some PLATE!

This is why I dont post here anymore, Gamespot forums seem to attract the most opinionated, and hateful gamers I have ever seen. have fun nitpicking and hating everygame that comes out. This place is so lame, complaing about not having all the skills available to you in a demo? Please

Advid-Gamer

This is why I dont post here anymore, Gamespot forums seem to attract the most opinionated, and hateful gamers I have ever seen. have fun nitpicking and hating everygame that comes out. This place is so lame, complaing about not having all the skills available to you in a demo? Please

Advid-Gamer

Haha. Hmm yeah this is what it is like at the majority of forums out there mate. Besides you think this is bad? Head over to MMORPG.com and check out some threads on just about any MMO. Good job on deciding to come back to these forums only to pick out one thread with a negative title and attempt to insult everyone in here. Bahaha GTFO.

The demo was ok. You can't zoom out as much as you could in DA, but I mostly played it zoomed in anyway.

But the textures looked like **** in DX9 maxed out, I hope the final version looks better.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

This is why I dont post here anymore, Gamespot forums seem to attract the most opinionated, and hateful gamers I have ever seen. have fun nitpicking and hating everygame that comes out. This place is so lame, complaing about not having all the skills available to you in a demo? Please

WorldComingDown

Haha. Hmm yeah this is what it is like at the majority of forums out there mate. Besides you think this is bad? Head over to MMORPG.com and check out some threads on just about any MMO. Good job on deciding to come back to these forums only to pick out one thread with a negative title and attempt to insult everyone in here. Bahaha GTFO.