dx 10 coming to linux

http://apcmag.com/directx-10-in-linux-through-wine-and-crossover.htm

I think this is pretty cool

Even more games will be playable on wine.

Seriously, people that use Linux are just lame.

Yeah, I went there JigglyWiggly! :P

Seriously, people that use Linux are just lame.

Yeah, I went there JigglyWiggly! :P

Daytona_178

why?

its faster safer and more stable

whats so great about windows?

hey thats pretty coool news, but yeah lots not start any arguments, both operating systems have their pros and cons

You still have to use WINE. What's the point, you're still using Windows.

Linux is only godly if you are A) a programmer, B) are really cheap, C) want to think you're somehow better than all other PC users just becuase you use some GUI version of Linux.

The advantages of Linux are not that great anymore. Both OSX and Windows 7 are much easier to understand, way higher usability, and everything works on it. A command line version of Linux has it's place. I use it for large file storage servers. It is faster, safer, and cheaper than Windows Server (which is garbage).

As for an OS for a home user, Linux just has far to many annoyances and problems. Sure you can prove that you know how to read a manual and learn new software, but in the long run you are missing out on tons of functionality OSX and Windows offer in terms of application support. Is that really worth saying that you know what an "ls" command does?

Linux has everything expect gaming. Thats why we all use Windows!rronqe

You still have to use WINE. What's the point, you're still using Windows.

Linux is only godly if you are A) a programmer, B) are really cheap, C) want to think you're somehow better than all other PC users just becuase you use some GUI version of Linux.

The advantages of Linux are not that great anymore. Both OSX and Windows 7 are much easier to understand, way higher usability, and everything works on it. A command line version of Linux has it's place. I use it for large file storage servers. It is faster, safer, and cheaper than Windows Server (which is garbage).

As for an OS for a home user, Linux just has far to many annoyances and problems. Sure you can prove that you know how to read a manual and learn new software, but in the long run you are missing out on tons of functionality OSX and Windows offer in terms of application support. Is that really worth saying that you know what an "ls" command does?

Wasdie

but you gain alot of flexibility and software when using linux. There are many different versions of linux for different people, ubuntu being great for just about anyone. Only problem Ive found is certain hardware wont work without tweaking, but other hardware seems to work with less hassle than windows and especially mac osx. But I admit, windows 7 is pretty good and has me back with windows for now.TerrorRizzing

Flexibility and software? Last time I checked most software was written for the Windows or Mac environment. How is that gaining software?

The things Linux users tell me that are advantages of Linux always are it's more flexible and it has free software. I've never found a program that I've needed that was strictly for Linux and I do a ton of different stuff with my computer. Anything from audio and video editing, to writing applications (software engineer), designing software systems, word processing, photo editing, gaming, video capture, basic internet browsing... all for free on Windows.

When it comes down to it, the only real advantages of Linux are the very small kernel size, requires very little resources, it is more secure because most viruses and stuff are written as Windows executable files, and it's free. However you miss out on tons of applications, more often than not the GUIS are copies of Windows or just plain confusing, and installing new hardware is tricky. Not to mention you miss out on all of the glorious gaming that Windows has to offer and even OSX is starting to offer.

As I said before, Linux is great for programmers and servers as well as a lot of machines and large super computers (they actually use UNIX) but I can't see any major advantages of using it as your home OS. Sure Windows 7 takes a bit longer to start up and can take some more system resources, but in an age of 6+ gigs of ram and quad core processors clocked at 3.5 ghz, these aren't major issues.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] but you gain alot of flexibility and software when using linux. There are many different versions of linux for different people, ubuntu being great for just about anyone. Only problem Ive found is certain hardware wont work without tweaking, but other hardware seems to work with less hassle than windows and especially mac osx. But I admit, windows 7 is pretty good and has me back with windows for now.Wasdie

Flexibility and software? Last time I checked most software was written for the Windows or Mac environment. How is that gaining software?

The things Linux users tell me that are advantages of Linux always are it's more flexible and it has free software. I've never found a program that I've needed that was strictly for Linux and I do a ton of different stuff with my computer. Anything from audio and video editing, to writing applications (software engineer), designing software systems, word processing, photo editing, gaming, video capture, basic internet browsing... all for free on Windows.

When it comes down to it, the only real advantages of Linux are the very small kernel size, requires very little resources, it is more secure because most viruses and stuff are written as Windows executable files, and it's free. However you miss out on tons of applications, more often than not the GUIS are copies of Windows or just plain confusing, and installing new hardware is tricky. Not to mention you miss out on all of the glorious gaming that Windows has to offer and even OSX is starting to offer.

As I said before, Linux is great for programmers and servers as well as a lot of machines and large super computers (they actually use UNIX) but I can't see any major advantages of using it as your home OS. Sure Windows 7 takes a bit longer to start up and can take some more system resources, but in an age of 6+ gigs of ram and quad core processors clocked at 3.5 ghz, these aren't major issues.

Linux would've been great if many wonderful apps such as Gimp, Open Office, and Audacity were Linux-only. Since they're also available for Windows, that sort of limited its appeal.

Heck. I remember Gimp as being Linux only at one time. Now, my daughter use Gimp in school but on Windows PCs and Macs! That was a wonderful turn of events. Same goes for Open Office.

Linux would've been great if many wonderful apps such as Gimp, Open Office, and Audacity were Linux-only. Since they're also available for Windows, that sort of limited its appeal.

jun_aka_pekto

I use Open Office, Audacity, and Paint.net as well as Virtualdub all on my PC for free. I believe GIMP is also on Windows as well. It really does make Linux feel kind of pointless when the best software is all on Windows.

Linux would've been great if many wonderful apps such as Gimp, Open Office, and Audacity were Linux-only. Since they're also available for Windows, that sort of limited its appeal.

Heck. I remember Gimp as being Linux only at one time. Now, my daughter use Gimp in school but on Windows PCs and Macs! That was a wonderful turn of events. Same goes for Open Office.

jun_aka_pekto

why?

its faster safer and more stable

whats so great about windows?

dontshackzmii

It's not faster and, holy hell, there's no way in anyone's wildest imagination for it to be more stable :?

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Linux would've been great if many wonderful apps such as Gimp, Open Office, and Audacity were Linux-only. Since they're also available for Windows, that sort of limited its appeal.

Wasdie

I use Open Office, Audacity, and Paint.net as well as Virtualdub all on my PC for free. I believe GIMP is also on Windows as well. It really does make Linux feel kind of pointless when the best software is all on Windows.

Linux isn't pointless just yet. I actually like it. But, there's simply no good reason for me to switch to it unless I fall into hard times and can't afford Windows anymore.

Between pirating Windows or using Linux, I rather use Linux. It's decent enough to be a primary OS. But, it also need apps of its own (exclusives if you will, in gaming speak) for me to want it. That said, I keep up to date on Linux development.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Linux would've been great if many wonderful apps such as Gimp, Open Office, and Audacity were Linux-only. Since they're also available for Windows, that sort of limited its appeal.

Heck. I remember Gimp as being Linux only at one time. Now, my daughter use Gimp in school but on Windows PCs and Macs! That was a wonderful turn of events. Same goes for Open Office.

TerrorRizzing

The first versions back in 2003 were clunky. At this point, Gimp for Windows is quite decent. My daughter has it on both her Windows PC and Mac Mini.

nice. the sooner gaming on linux becomes more of an option, the sooner i can ditch windows. outside fo games i have exactly 0 reasons to use windows.osan0

You still need WINE to run DX 10 on Linux... that is still using Windows.

[QUOTE="osan0"]nice. the sooner gaming on linux becomes more of an option, the sooner i can ditch windows. outside fo games i have exactly 0 reasons to use windows.Wasdie

You still need WINE to run DX 10 on Linux... that is still using Windows.

It's an API layer, that's really not even comparable, not to mention peformance hits are quuestionable depending on the application, in fact Office 2007 runs better in wine than in Windows. I had a link to that, don't know where it is now. 2010 won't run... However most of every 3d app runs worse, but performance varies wildly.

Anyway, there are quite a few programs that aren't on Windows that are on Linux first.

SSH, I mean come on, I am a man who needs SSH. (Don't say cygwin)
I can put my wireless card into monitor mode...
Great network diagnostic tools built right into the box in Ubuntu, Debian I think has them too... (may be a gnome thing)
Freedomz, I can have GUIs installed at the same time and only use one aka /etc/init.d/gdm start or /etc/init.d/kde start

I am not a huge fan of Wine, so I really don't care about the achievements. Mainly because my laptop sucks too much and that's where I use Linux the most(t8100 2.1 c2d, 8400mgs 4 gigs of ram), besides my sexah serverz.

RAID implementation is sooooooooo much better with MDADM, no need to use my motherboard's silly fakeraid, I can use the OS to do it with much more customizablity.

Smart monitoring tools are all way better.

Pretty much no risk of getting malware, however for fun you can test and see which malware works by running it in wine. (Bad idea, it can effect your Linux install)

Also Samba(you may be tinkin WHY WOULD I NEED SAMBA ON WINDOWS)
but Samba is better than Windows networking even though it's kind of emulating it. I love how I can create Unix accounts and then tie a windows network user to them and specify permissions .It's just so clean, and it doesn't cost anything... where in Windows it costs like thousands.
Of course all those Indian IT workers are all Windows nubs lol(The majority I've worked with, not being racist, Microsoft takes them from India and stuff).

So yeah...
Depends what your doing, I dual boot on my laptop, and I just switch to whatever OS depending on the mood I'm in... it doesn't really make a difference most of the time.

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Seriously, people that use Linux are just lame.

Yeah, I went there JigglyWiggly! :P

dontshackzmii

why?

its faster safer and more stable

whats so great about windows?

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Seriously, people that use Linux are just lame.

Yeah, I went there JigglyWiggly! :P

dontshackzmii

why?

its faster safer and more stable

whats so great about windows?

Linux :P. Great for servers, that is about it. millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Linux :P. Great for servers, that is about it. i5750at4Ghz

Well when I build my media centre PC I doubt Linux can bitstream DTS-MA tracks from a GPU to an AVR. The only real problem with Linux is lack of support for everything you want to do with your PC, easily or at all.

IMO Linux is great, for everyday work, server, programming and just about anything. It can be made to look cooler than OS X or Windows, has a great customizability and decent software support. Not too mention Open Source.gigatrainer

You forgot Blu-Ray playback - which doesn't work.

[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]IMO Linux is great, for everyday work, server, programming and just about anything. It can be made to look cooler than OS X or Windows, has a great customizability and decent software support. Not too mention Open Source.desertpython

You forgot Blu-Ray playback - which doesn't work.

[QUOTE="desertpython"]

[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]IMO Linux is great, for everyday work, server, programming and just about anything. It can be made to look cooler than OS X or Windows, has a great customizability and decent software support. Not too mention Open Source.gigatrainer

You forgot Blu-Ray playback - which doesn't work.

IMO Linux is great, for everyday work, server, programming and just about anything. which would include Blu-Ray playback but it doesn't. DVD's don't even work out of the box.

You still have to use WINE. What's the point, you're still using Windows.

Linux is only godly if you are A) a programmer, B) are really cheap, C) want to think you're somehow better than all other PC users just becuase you use some GUI version of Linux.

The advantages of Linux are not that great anymore. Both OSX and Windows 7 are much easier to understand, way higher usability, and everything works on it. A command line version of Linux has it's place. I use it for large file storage servers. It is faster, safer, and cheaper than Windows Server (which is garbage).

As for an OS for a home user, Linux just has far to many annoyances and problems. Sure you can prove that you know how to read a manual and learn new software, but in the long run you are missing out on tons of functionality OSX and Windows offer in terms of application support. Is that really worth saying that you know what an "ls" command does?

Wasdie

Yeah, because that's copyrighted. Which is why when you try to play one Ubuntu asks for a DL.JigglyWiggly_

Microsoft will just keep making new versions of DirectX because they know they have basically two things that enable them maintain their lock on the home PC OS market: Having almost every computer that people buy in retail chains come with Windows already installed, and gaming.

I don't know if thats really true... If MS neglected DX, another windows standard API would likely emerge or games would just use opengl. I think MS continues to improve it because its a proving ground for directx for future consoles. They'd still have their monopoly even without games imo, theres really nothing that could remotely challenge windows on a consumer level.Captain__Tripps

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]Linux :P. Great for servers, that is about it. psych0mantra