EA forum ban blocks Dragon Age 2 player

Have you guys heard about this? While I admit the dude should of been punished for making such a stupid comments, this seems a bit too much.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/03/11/ea-forum-ban-blocks-dragon-age-2-player/1

lol this s*** is becoming hot news.

/fail EA

Man this is so stupid, I just feel like b****slapping some people...

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

millerlight89

Exactly, this is not a good road to go down. I am all for following the rules and I get tired of people using the public forums for personal rants but this goes too far. Ban the guy from posting to the forum for life,

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

Exactly, this is not a good road to go down. I am all for following the rules and I get tired of people using the public forums for personal rants but this goes too far. Ban the guy from posting to the forum for life,

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

millerlight89

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

For some reason this seems a lot worse to me than the uplay stuff, the Ubi DRM where you need to be connected all the time. The discretion of a forum admin can determine whether or not you can play a game? I've been suspended or banned from forums for all sorts of reasons I don't agree with, and to be locked out of a game I own during that time would be pretty annoying.

This bothers me enough that I don't plan to purchase DA2 anymore, unless maybe it's less than 10 bucks. Maybe. :D

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

Baranga

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

GodI wish Blizzard cracked down on players like this. WoW would be SO much better - or the community rather :D

Baranga, which post in particular are you referring to on the Bioware forum thread?the_ChEeSe_mAn2

v_ware's post, the one with the picture. I linked to it, it works for me:P

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

Baranga

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

Agreed, no sympathy, sorry. You agree to follow the rules, you don't like it then don't post or don't buy the game. He wasn't someone posting a civil, well thought-out critique of why he thinks the game sucks like everyone is trying to play it up to be. I can't believe how many sites are seriously trying to make an issue out of this.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.PTMags

Same guy made a long post on the system wars forums. I'm still not sure how he's prevented from registering the game using a new BioWare account.Mazoch

Because you WANT it on the same account... All Bioware games since DAO have been linked to that account and when you get a new game you get new rewards for playing the other games... (Getting Blood Dragon Armor in Mass Effect 2 for playing DAO for example...)... Not to mention prior DLC/Saves are tied to those accounts...

While he did break the rules, but this is gonna keep getting worse...

Disagree with the "people in charge" and you voice it.. crap like this happens...

There should be a mutual respect... Not one way like so many game publishers and devs obviously do...

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]Same guy made a long post on the system wars forums. I'm still not sure how he's prevented from registering the game using a new BioWare account.Buttons1990

Because you WANT it on the same account... All Bioware games since DAO have been linked to that account and when you get a new game you get new rewards for playing the other games... (Getting Blood Dragon Armor in Mass Effect 2 for playing DAO for example...)... Not to mention prior DLC/Saves are tied to those accounts...

I'm pretty sure saves can be moved around freely (since you can download other peoples saves for ME2, and they appear to use the same general system).

However, none of this prevents him from playing his game. The original complaint was that he cannot play the game he paid for, as far as I can tell that's not true. He might not be able to convert his saves, or get the bonus item that comes from owning ME2. But that's very diffrent from not being able to play the game he bought.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but as far as I can tell he can play his game just fine?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

Baranga

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

They also encourage the regulars there to insult people that disliked the changes. That's why every second poster there gets accused of trolling by the unbelievable ******** that are the regulars there. Nobody gets moded.

Sometimes when things get really personal, they write something like "Please behave", but nobody suffers for it.

Only the people who didn't like something about the game get punished, while everyone are equally insulting.

I am actually surprised some are ok with this. If the guy has indeed lost access to his game then this is tantamount to theft by EA in my books, they quite literally stole the guys $50. Now obviously if you act like an idiot on a forum you should expect to be banned from that forum but to have your game rendered useless because of that !! wow this is just so unbelievably horrible and it deserves as much publicity and news as it gets.

Now obviously if you act like an idiot on a forum you should expect to be banned from that forum but to have your game rendered useless because of that !!charmingcharlie

[QUOTE="PTMags"][QUOTE="Baranga"]Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.ChiliDragon

Because it's an extreme reaction to a small infraction.Gooeykat

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]Because it's an extreme reaction to a small infraction.ChiliDragon

Still, it makes no sense to ban his access to a game he purchased. You have to at least see the foolishness in this. Yes, ban him for life from the forums, never let him post again but this is essentially theft on EAs part.Gooeykat

Right, I get it, it was in the EULA and he agreed to it, so EA can do whatever the hell they want. Got it.Gooeykat

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]Right, I get it, it was in the EULA and he agreed to it, so EA can do whatever the hell they want. Got it.ChiliDragon

Here's how I see it:

I don't think the guy's a victim in the sense that he wasn't asking for punishment. But also nor is EA's social networking system that's currently in place, which goes beyond it's level of control is just either. Ban the guy on the forums but don't try to control how he plays the game he just bought for $60 for christ's sakes. There are other ways they can resort to. This is just corporate control that again is getting greedy and intolerable of it's own customers.

My goodness people will defend anything these days... just sad.

His ability to play a single player game was removed because he complainted on a forum...

There is no reason to link a single player game he payed for (something he will play in the privacy of his own home) and forum posts. Its just absurd and exerting control where it doesn't need to be.

Yeah you can sit there and blame him for not reading the EULA, but whatever its still crap. No one would have reasonable expected that EA would ban someone from a single player game for forum posts. Thats why people don't read EULA's in the first place because they don't think they are signing away their soul when they click accept.

This is newsworthy simply because of the overreaching that companies are doing with EULA's and how people need to be informed how companies are acting like nazi's before they click accept.

I hope EA gets a lot of bad press so they write reasonable EULA's (along with all the other control freak companies).

How much bad press Valve got when VAC was banning across engines? How much do they get whenever Paypal has a brain fart, delays a payment and a poor guy gets his account banned? IIRC there was such a case this month.

Here's how I see it: I don't think the guy's a victim in the sense that he wasn't asking for punishment. But also nor is EA's social networking system that's currently in place, which goes beyond it's level of control is just either.Roris0A

[QUOTE="Roris0A"]Here's how I see it: I don't think the guy's a victim in the sense that he wasn't asking for punishment. But also nor is EA's social networking system that's currently in place, which goes beyond it's level of control is just either.ChiliDragon

So he can't play for a few days. I don't care. I'm not a fan of EA, but if you buy their games and post on their forums, they have the right to ban you. Get over it.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

- Game is dependent of an EA online service

- Guy gets banned on said service

- Game doesn't work anymore

Problem?

Baranga

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

Obviously they are legally allowed to do this. All you have done is stated the obvious which adds nothing to the discussion, and has nothing to do with whether they should be able to do this or not. The question was never if Bioware should be sued, it's whether what they are doing is 'right'.

IMO they should have revoked all posting rights on the account, but let him continue to use the service. That eliminates the problem, but does not go out of the way for punishments sake alone.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Somehow I feel you would be singing another tune if this were you, or someone you knew like a friend. True_Sounds

I'm smart enough to refrain from posting stuff like this on the Bioware network. That's one of the guy in question's glorious posts.

Also I'm smart enough to avoid situations like this on the Steam forums, which would lead to my Steam account getting banned. The difference is that a Steam ban would lock access to all my games, not only to those using Steamworks...

Bottom line is, what they're doing is legal and it's covered in the contracts I accept when installing the game. And yeah, the way the system works is that those forums are part of the Bioware SN which is a component of the game. It's not moral IMO, but morals and law aren't the same thing.

Obviously they are legally allowed to do this. All you have done is stated the obvious which adds nothing to the discussion, and has nothing to do with whether they should be able to do this or not. The question was never if Bioware should be sued, it's whether what they are doing is 'right'.

IMO they should have revoked all posting rights on the account, but let him continue to use the service. That eliminates the problem, but does not go out of the way for punishments sake alone.

Exactly its just a big FU from bioware, and is used to set an example, and of course they are legally allowed to do this, the consumer benefits the least in reality..

Same guy made a long post on the system wars forums. I'm still not sure how he's prevented from registering the game using a new BioWare account.Mazoch

To be able to access and download added game content, you have to register your games on the BioWare Social forum.

So he can't play for a few days. I don't care. I'm not a fan of EA, but if you buy their games and post on their forums, they have the right to ban you. Get over it.

Skullcandy