EA is a discriminating h0mophobic company

In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

What terrible timing or they are just bound by the laws of nature.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/it-gets-electronic-arts/708689

or just hypocrisy.

I fully support EA. I don't see them discriminating anyone.

Maybe none of their game developers are homosexual so it didnt come to mind? I wouldn't have thought of it but I dont consider that wrong.

In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

reachrocksman

No, that isn't what they're saying. What they're saying is that the developers obviously didn't even consider adding that option into the game. I love it when folks make mountains out of molehills. They'll do anything to start controversy in today's over-politically correct world. I do hope you get your wish, "reach," in the next Sims game just so that we won't have to hear any more of this from you.

Boohoo. Get over it OP... it's inconsequential.

LOL, srsly? What are you playing the sims for anyway? That game's for phags.Phat_Jay

You posted this in OT too. Spam much n00b?

I fully support EA. I don't see them discriminating anyone.

UnknownElement4

Same here. People need to not be so rediculous.

I dont get it. I have a lesbian couple who adopted a kid. Are you sure you're not doing something wrong?

Check for mods, if what you are saying is true (I don't have the game to check) then I am sure SOMEONE modded it in.

Since when does a game that does its best to mimic a virtual real world also have to mimic the real world issues that plague it? Can you get the game to repeal a "Don't Ask Don't Tell" law? No. Can you get the game to start putting lead in all of the toys your virtual kids play with? No. There's no point in complaining about this, because I woud want the developers to spend more time fleshing out game mechanics and complexity rather than fussing about over real-time moral dillemas and possible lawsuits.

so.... because they didnt include this option they are homophobic and discriminating? perhaps they just dont agree with your life style (or more likely didnt even think about it)? not agreeing with the gay lifestyle and being homophobic are NOT the same thing.... infact, you know what? i think you are discriminating against my desire to NOT see two gay men adopt a child... how about that eh? does that make you heterophobic?Roland123_basic

Um, what else would you call it? If you don't agree with something and purposely leave the option out BECAUSE you don't agree with it, what else is it other than descrimination? And no one is descriminating against you because if you don't want to see it, you just choose not to play as a gay character. He doesn't even HAVE the option to make the choice, however. That's the distinction.

*This is all hypothetical of course, based on the assumption that they did indeed leave the option out of the game and did so because they don't agree with it...which is not what i'm saying that EA did.*

I don't know anything about the Sims 3 but someone has said that they were able to adopt a child with a lesbian couple, I don't see why EA would include that and then turn around and not allow a gay male couple to do the same. If anything it sounds like ur doin it wrong OP.

I have nothing against homosexuals but I dont think many children would want to be adopted by a gay couple. I would imagine school would be a nightmare for any child of a gay couple.

Seriously guy, video games is an industry, a business. Developers are gonna make games that appeal most to the general population. Guess what, homosexuality doesn't appeal to the general population.dangamit

Troll thread ?

In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

reachrocksman

So you base this on just one game?:?

Excuse me, but you can have a gay romance choice in two games that I know of that EA publishes, so your accusation of EA is moot.:)

That's pretty funny.

lol, some peoples reactions are way overboard/conservative (Roland)

There is nothing wrong with being gay or adopting a kid as a gay couple.

Take it from me who is almost done getting his Phd in neuropsychology.

Being gay (just like schizofrenia) has the highest biological rate of transfer, which is 50%. There are no other phenomena in human behavior which is so high in this department then those 2.

What this means is, if we have twins, (identical) we raise them in complete diffrent enviroments/families. If one of them is gay the other will have 50% chance of also being gay.

So being gay is complete genetic, you do not choose to be it, they are just normal people like me and you.
Taking away privileges because of something you absolutely can't do a damn thing about it is medieval and disturbing.

Its the same as saying to a black person, "excuse me you can't drive a car because you are... euh well black" BS

Also, i'm not a development psychologist, but i know as much about it that a kid who is raised by a gay/lesbian couple, has (in average) better grades in school, is more tollerant against diffrent people/minorities, has less behavioral problems, shows less agression and hostility then hetero raised kids.

The reason? because gay people who are parents actually want to be parents and will do everything they can do raise a good developed child, then normal people who get kids because its the "norm" or because you just have to have sex and voila, an unwanted child is born.

Seriously some people need to grow up.

Big deal

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Mist3rBungle

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Blistrax

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lol, some peoples reactions are way overboard/conservative (Roland)

There is nothing wrong with being gay or adopting a kid as a gay couple.

Take it from me who is almost done getting his Phd in neuropsychology.

Being gay (just like schizofrenia) has the highest biological rate of transfer, which is 50%. There are no other phenomena in human behavior which is so high in this department then those 2.

What this means is, if we have twins, (identical) we raise them in complete diffrent enviroments/families. If one of them is gay the other will have 50% chance of also being gay.

So being gay is complete genetic, you do not choose to be it, they are just normal people like me and you.
Taking away privileges because of something you absolutely can't do a damn thing about it is medieval and disturbing.

Its the same as saying to a black person, "excuse me you can't drive a car because you are... euh well black" BS

Also, i'm not a development psychologist, but i know as much about it that a kid who is raised by a gay/lesbian couple, has (in average) better grades in school, is more tollerant against diffrent people/minorities, has less behavioral problems, shows less agression and hostility then hetero raised kids.

The reason? because gay people who are parents actually want to be parents and will do everything they can do raise a good developed child, then normal people who get kids because its the "norm" or because you just have to have sex and voila, an unwanted child is born.

Seriously some people need to grow up.

Bros89

being gay is not always genetic.... saying it is, is completely naive and absurd. there are those that choose to be gay it is well documented and something that someone who is supposedly getting a PhD in neuropsychology should well know.... then again i dont believe for a second that you are actually getting said degree.

also, your comparison of black people to gay people is completely ludicrous. being african american is a RACE... being gay is not a race, it is a behavioral mechanism. being black and gay are NOT even remotely similar. you cannot compare the two, and i think you just stepped in a whoooooole lot of **** even trying to.

my argument is neither overboard nor all that conservative.conservatives would argue that gay doesnt even exist.... i do not. the idea i proposed has taken hold so tightly of american society in the last 10 years it blows my mind. what i am speaking of is reverse discrimination. the fact that gay people can claim i am being discriminating/homophobic just because i do not agree with their behavior and get away with it is disgusting to me. they are practicing reverse discrimination by saying that i cannot be vocal about my disagreement with their behavior.

it all comes down to the saying that "those who cry racist first are typically the most racist individuals". those that cry out and call others homophobes/discriminatory are typically the ones that are the worst.

Or it could be that the developers who made the game didn't want those particular features?

I don't see why you're getting upset about it.

@roland

i really don't care an inch what you believe or not. I don't even know you so...

You are right on one thing about the fact that nurture is also a factor of your sexuality. (it slipped my mind, its a lesson from the 2nd year so its way back)

Where you are cleary wrong is that its a choice, its not a choice nor will it ever be.

people who are gay have a much more difficult life then normal people, people like you should know that because its because of people like you.

Here is a slide i still have on my pc from that time: (if you have a problem with that, complain @ Ugent Professor Wouter Duyck)

Its in dutch, but it confirms the 50% concordiation degree.
Its also saying that its because of a variation on the X-chromosome, hormone levels in the uterus and the structure of the hypothalamus gay men have a structure that resembles the ones of women)

about nurture: there could be some social-cultural influences, the more brothers you have the more chance of being gay because of the way you are being raised by your mother (she raises you more feminent because of her desire for having a daughter) => does that makes it a choice of the individuale itself? NO!

The last line sais: the probabilty of being gay is much higher because of nature then nurture (and again even if there are nurture influences, it is not a choice of the gay person, just like a child who has bad behavior can not be blamend => its the factors that lead to that behavior)

my comparisment with black people does make sense, because both gay/black people do no choose their race/sexuality and they both get judged for it.

i don't care about your reply, because i am sure you will deny it further and continue your madness saying its a choice of the individual, i just hope with my reply i can stop you from influencing others.

lol, some peoples reactions are way overboard/conservative (Roland)

There is nothing wrong with being gay or adopting a kid as a gay couple.

Take it from me who is almost done getting his Phd in neuropsychology.

Being gay (just like schizofrenia) has the highest biological rate of transfer, which is 50%. There are no other phenomena in human behavior which is so high in this department then those 2.

What this means is, if we have twins, (identical) we raise them in complete diffrent enviroments/families. If one of them is gay the other will have 50% chance of also being gay.

So being gay is complete genetic, you do not choose to be it, they are just normal people like me and you.
Taking away privileges because of something you absolutely can't do a damn thing about it is medieval and disturbing.

Its the same as saying to a black person, "excuse me you can't drive a car because you are... euh well black" BS

Also, i'm not a development psychologist, but i know as much about it that a kid who is raised by a gay/lesbian couple, has (in average) better grades in school, is more tollerant against diffrent people/minorities, has less behavioral problems, shows less agression and hostility then hetero raised kids.

The reason? because gay people who are parents actually want to be parents and will do everything they can do raise a good developed child, then normal people who get kids because its the "norm" or because you just have to have sex and voila, an unwanted child is born.

Seriously some people need to grow up.

Bros89

The study you most likely referred to was the 1991 study which the media loves to bring up constantly and was flawed on several levels. First, there was no control group, meaning it's impossible to put the study's findings into any meaningful context. Second, the siblings, be they identical, adopted etc. were raised together making it impossible to definitively conclude how much or how little the environment played a part in their life. Next, the fact that only about 50% of identical twins share sexual orientation actually point towards genetic makeup not playing a major role as if it were genetic the number should have been much, much closer to 100%. Also, the manner in which the subjects were solicited for the study were done by advertising in publications for the gay community which even the study's author admitted may have skewed the results, though how much is debatable.

My argument isn't for or against homosexuality, rather it's against poorly done studies that claim to be scientific.

Finally, and most importantly, this thread needs to be moved to OT by the mods as it has next to nothing to do with anything related to PC gaming.

It wasn't the faulty study from the 90'ies, if you read my post you can see that the twins were raised diffrently. (i think the study was german, published in 2004)

And i'm refering to university material not some B-graded psychobabble magazine. (I think i even got that study from the 90'ies as an example of "how not to do a longitudinial study" in my course methodology or behavioral research methods in us language)

Genetic make-up is 100% correct, every behavioral abnormality has that pattern, just like schizofrenia, you get the genes that make youvulnerable and because of some external influences the disorder/behavior manifests itself. there is not a single psychological disorder/behavior that has a 100% genetic basis (hence being gay and schizofrenia are the ones with the most genetic influences)

But i support your critical view of media conclusions of wrong studies.

It wasn't the faulty study from the 90'ies, if you read my post you can see that twins were raised diffrently.

And i'm refering to university material not some B-graded psychobable magazine.

But i support your critical view of media conclusions of wrong studies.

Bros89

Actually your post didn't name the study, so I made the, apparently wrong, assumption that you were using the same one I generally see used, or rather mis-used, in the media.

my mistake indeed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay or adopting a kid as a gay couple.

Bros89

Have one of your guys make a baby with a woman and then kill her or have her move out.... You now have a baby for your 2 men to raise! TROD_BING

In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

reachrocksman

dude u can choose to be/do wheatever you want just don't try to stuff it down on other people, they don't have to program/waste time doing gay stuff in a game, next time will be g@y people complaining about companies not doing a g@y romance plot in a game, so no,,, just no

discriminating is treating g@y people in an offensive way but your community seems to be using that excuse to include themselves in every game, tv show and everything, you can't watch a tv show now days without having a g@y clown in it

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In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

Krelian-co

dude u can choose to be/do wheatever you want just don't try to stuff it down on other people, they don't have to program/waste time doing gay stuff in a game, next time will be g@y people complaining about companies not doing a g@y romance plot in a game, so no,,, just no

discriminating is treating g@y people in an offensive way but your community seems to be using that excuse to include themselves in every game, tv show and everything, you can't watch a tv show now days without having a g@y clown in it

It's not money that gets you anywhere, today. But discrimination...

Great, now the thread goes from being about EA and whether or not they're homophobic because of content in The Sims to a bunch of message board phonies debating homosexuality. Ugh. Somebody close this thread or move it to Off-Topic, please.

dude u can choose to be/do wheatever you want just don't try to stuff it down on other people, they don't have to program/waste time doing gay stuff in a game, next time will be g@y people complaining about companies not doing a g@y romance plot in a game, so no,,, just no

discriminating is treating g@y people in an offensive way but your community seems to be using that excuse to include themselves in every game, tv show and everything, you can't watch a tv show now days without having a g@y clown in it

Krelian-co

You do know you can say gay without it being censored, right? It's not an offensive word unless it's used offensively.

i realized that after i finished the post QQ, anyway i don't have anything against gays nor i support discrimination against them, in fact i knew some gays that were nice people, but the fact that they want to appear in everything is just annoying, i don't see how a game not including gay people is discrimanting, discriminating would be if they had messages against it or something, but then again they use that word as "they have to include gays in everything and thats a rule"

[QUOTE="TROD_BING"]Have one of your guys make a baby with a woman and then kill her or have her move out.... You now have a baby for your 2 men to raise! ChiliDragon

If he tries this and then all of a sudden something pops up saying "Woah there! You have 2 men! You cant possibly raise this baby without a woman!" then I will believe EA is discriminating

Every scientific study out there shows that kids do better when they are raised by a man and a woman.

I know that telling the truth offends some people, but that's just the way it is.

EA has the right to make whatever kind of game they want, I guess some people would like to take away freedom of thought, hopefully that day will never come - or we will all just be robots who only spout whatever programming we've been indoctrinated with.

In the Sims, they made the game where it is looked down upon to be gay They discriminate by not even letting two men have a kid together. They dont allow us to adopt a kid.

So what EA, you are basically saying gay couples cannot raise a kid, be good parents? Your company disgusts me.

reachrocksman