Early adopters of HD-DVD and Blu ray, what will you do when your format fails?

One will obviously lose the format war, but what will you early adopters do once your format loses? 

As of now they both have their advatages, so there's no telling which will lose.

HD-DVD pros:

• Cheap
• "teh pr0n" 8).........:wink:

cons:

• No Star Wars, X-men, Spiderman, hell no movies from 20th Century fox and Colombia/Tristar

Blu Ray pros:

• Sales advantage atm

cons:

• Expensive
• No pr0n :?

One will obviously lose the format war, but what will you early adopters do once your format loses? 

As of now they both have their advatages, so there's no telling which will lose.

HD-DVD pros:

• Cheap
• "teh pr0n" 8).........:wink:

cons:

• No Star Wars, X-men, Spiderman, hell no movies from 20th Century fox and Colombia/Tristar

Blu Ray pros:

• Sales advantage atm

cons:

• Expensive
• No pr0n :?

iceberg_shorty

hehe! I like your pros and cons dude. Seriously though, I'm not getting into this. I've tried a few times and these posts never end pretty (Like blood everywhere bad). Have fun fightin' dudes!cspiffo

I doubt it hardly anyone post in this forum, hell I'm surprised you posted in my thread!

I was thinking about posting this in SW, but I just came off suspension and don't want to risk being put back on because some cry baby b**** to the mods saying I'm posting off topic threads.

[QUOTE="cspiffo"]hehe! I like your pros and cons dude. Seriously though, I'm not getting into this. I've tried a few times and these posts never end pretty (Like blood everywhere bad). Have fun fightin' dudes!iceberg_shorty

I doubt it hardly anyone post in this forum, hell I'm surprised you posted in my thread!

I was thinking about posting this in SW, but I just came off suspension and don't want to risk being put back on because some cry baby b**** to the mods saying I'm posting off topic threads.

What will I do if MY format fails? Hmmmmm, I don't pick sides. I'll get both.Large_Soda

You must be rich, or have a steady income. 

Loan me a thousand dollars! :|

I'm just BS'in. :P

Un less you gonna loan it to me! :|

Blu ray already won, so i dont have to worry.mr_pops238

A few things on this.

First off porn will indeed be on Blu Ray, Debbie Does Dallas Again will be pressed in BOTH formats.  Sony has just stated THEY will not press anything that has adult content.  There are other means to press a Blu Ray disk.

The less expensive more expensive argument is irrelevant.  It will all come down to the players themselves.  Who has more units sold?  This will generate more disk sales.  Cost per disk is not inherently linked to the cost of the players, or at least it shouldn't be.

Also, in five to six years there's a good possibility it won't matter.  Non-physical media is becoming increasingly popular and XBL alone is showing its potential.  In addition, the new technologies in development are going to become cheaper, faster and more reilable.

Also, like Cspiffo said, chill out.  There are indeed only a handful of people that cruise this forum.  Feel free to dump this in off topic, but you'll get blind nonsensical fan boy rants.  Here you're more likely to get rational viewpoints. 

Be aware that there are definitely some folks in here that know a heck of a lot more than you or I and as such they're a great resource.

I already have both formats (HD-DVD drive for 360 and a PS3). That being said, I hope Blu-Ray succeeds due to the higher capacity.

-Byshop

mr_pops238 wrote: Blu ray already won, so i dont have to worry.

And who are you to confirm this?

I agree things look good for blu-ray, but it's too early to say that one format has "won".

-Byshop

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

snackdaddy

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

ramey70

Although, I had read, somewhere, the Porn said they could find other means to press Blu-Ray disks without using Sony I renigged my previous comment b/c of this interview with Joone, a founder of Digital Playground which seems to say otherwise, or rather a slanted view on press Blu-ray disks...

Initally, Sony had threatened to revove licenses, but due to the problem you pointed out they can't.  However, all the third party companies are refusing to do so.  Or at least as of right now....

January 26, 2007

http://gear.ign.com/articles/759/759068p1.html

Also the interview makes reference to Vivid's announcement - he's assuming they have their own press, but doesn't know for sure.

So, assuming Vivid does in fact release that title, than I obviously am wrong on the No Porn thing.  However, if big publishers don't open their doors I can't imagine it being a cost effective product on their side.

Download all my media, just like everyone else will in a few years. I'm telling you... this is the final physical media war we will ever have, I think.donalbane

I agree 100%

I'll probably switch over to downloading media as rentals from the 360 or Comcast On Demand until we can actually physically download media to keep.  It doesn't seem but a few years off.  I'll probably pick up the combo player and just blockbuster.com BR movies until that happens.  If they ever get a 3rd party controller for the PS3 that has its analog sticks placed like the 360 controller I'll buy a PS3 instead of a combo player.  I don't really have any desire to support a certain company at the moment.

I think the price does factor in.  To me it would seem that six pack joe doesn't know about certain studios being exclusive to BR and that could delay BR in the long run.  But by the time it becomes affordable (because millions will still need to upgrade to an HDTV first) HD-DVD players will easily be under $200 and this middle media format war will never really have fully taken off like people had hoped.

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

ramey70

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"]

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

XboxUnderground

[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"]

**Correction**

I had stated that the Porn Industry had other means to press Blu-Ray disks, which they thought they did, however Sony announced they would revoke any third party Blu-Ray publishers license if they pressed Adult Content.

I don't think this is a massive, blow, but we'll see.

ramey70

There is currently NO third party Blu-ray publishing companies that will press porn.  Read the interview I posted.  Sony may not have "control" but they have a heavy hand apparently.

Yes, there are people who will press porn. Sony will not press porn at their facilities, and any facility that wishes to do business with Disney will not press porn. That being said, there are more and more independant companies coming online for BR all the time that WILL press porn, because they're not big enough to worry about the major studio work. There is no legal barrier, or a barrier in the BR license regarding porn, it's simply contracts with studios, whose terms include that the facility will not press adult material, as they do not want a repeat of the Toy Story 2/High Fidelity incident, where layer 2 happened to be from a VERY R-rated scene from High Fidelity on some discs. The interview comes after the initial shout of protest, and is likely the result of Toshiba and/or Microsoft paying them off to badmouth BR. There are BR porn titles in the works, there will continue to be BR porn titles, but major replicators who control the majority of the BR replication capacity will not press porn in their facilities because of their relationships. As more facilities come online, they will have places to go. They'll keep it up until that happens, and in the meantime reap the rewards of sucking the HD fanboys dry(pun intended) who are more interested in sticking it to the man(whenever those titles are announced) by playing the martyrdom game.

You're simply confusing the contracts that facilities have signed with blanket format policy, and no one in theri right mind would ban porn from their formats. Please note however, porn is not ever going to be a factor in a format war again, as pretty much all the porn outlets are looking to go download only, net based stuff. If they can eliminate their distribution costs they'll be in hog heaven.