Everyone seems to be buying Phenom II's for their gaming PC's.

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#1 SinfulPotato
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I'm looking at everyones sig, I see mostly Phenom II 955's.

Everyone says Intel is on top, but it seems for most people they have gone with AMD for Price/performance.

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#2 kraken2109
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What can I say, the 955 is a great CPU for a great price!

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Ya whats the point in spending an extra $150-200 to get upto only 5 fps differences in the most extereme cases in games when you can spend the extra money on a better gpu to make up or surpass the difference.
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IMO AMD Phenom II line is the best bang for your buck. Sure a ferrari would be nice but I can still keep up with it in my Nissan GT-R... that's the way I see it.

All my friends and I are rocking 550be's and 720be's. We couldn't be happier with the performance we're getting out of these processors for the price! They unlock easy to quads and even if they don't they're still the best bang for the buck you can buy.

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I just like Intel, very reliable and robust in my opinion. never tried AMD tho, we dont have them here.
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Not me.

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Mine was supposed to be a repair job when the motherboard of my old pc died (bulging capacitors). But, it was hard to find a Socket 939 motherboard from the sites I trusted.

I spent around $750 for the parts (from newegg.com) and shipping. For that price, I'm very happy with the results. I usually spend $1.5k-$2k for a new pc. This current one will tide me over for a couple of years.

I haven't gotten around to overclocking the cpu since I'm not a big fan of it. The last cpu I overclocked was a P-166 back in pre-3d acceleration 1996 when it really mattered. But, it's no effort whatsoever getting my Phenom II 720BE to 3.2ghz. For now, I'm happy with simply unlocking the 4th core which works beautifully.

Anyway, my old (2005) pc specs:

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If the status quo doesn't change, my next pc may be back to an Intel one. I do alternate between ATI and nVidia with video cards. Since I have an HD 5770 right now, its successor will be an nVidia card. Why I alternate? I dunno. Just one of my quirks. He He.

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I didn't know the whole world posted on Gamespot. That is a shock, because you think this forum would be more active.
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#9 samuraiguns
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lol, I like my CPU 2.8 Ghz for the core...not bad.

Phenom II X4 920

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#10 Luminouslight
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Purely for gaming, the Phenom is generally the way to go because it performs very similar to the i7/i5 lineup for a lower price. However, if you do anything such as folding, video encoding, etc, then i7 performs significantly better and is more worth the cost.

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Purely for gaming, the Phenom is generally the way to go because it performs very similar to the i7/i5 lineup for a lower price. However, if you do anything such as folding, video encoding, etc, then i7 performs significantly better and is more worth the cost.

Luminouslight
I wouldnt use the word significantly for the i7's since they only shave seconds not minutes over Phenom 2's. Plus why just get i7 just for folding or video when you can use Nvidia CUDA which creams both CPU's :P.
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#12 scoots9
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Yeah Phenom II's are good price/performance. But I got my i7 for a couple bucks less than the x4 965 was at the time so...

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#13 hartsickdiscipl
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I have an Intel CPU since it was the best choice when I bought my Mobo/CPU, but if I were buying today.. I would get a Phenom II X4 for a gaming rig. They offer the best price/performance right now. They are clock-for-clock roughly as fast as the High-end Core 2 Duo and Quad CPUs, but cost less.. what's not to like?

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#14 Jamiemydearx3
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Terrific Price to Performence ratio, that's why so many people are buying them. ;)

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#15 simardbrad
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I have a Q6600 and I wouldn't trade it for an AMD platform CPU.

This thing runs better than half of the AM3 processors out there

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#16 hartsickdiscipl
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I have a Q6600 and I wouldn't trade it for an AMD platform CPU.

This thing runs better than half of the AM3 processors out there

simardbrad

Congratulations.

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#17 Jamiemydearx3
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I have a Q6600 and I wouldn't trade it for an AMD platform CPU.

This thing runs better than half of the AM3 processors out there

simardbrad

It also uses a lot more energy and puts out a lot more heat, you should get a q9550. Q6600 is dated.

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#18 nmaharg
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If all you do is game there is no reason not to go with AMD. Its cheaper for the same or better performance. However as soon as you start doing things other than gaming you will notice a huge drop in performance compared to i5/i7 systems.
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#19 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="simardbrad"]

I have a Q6600 and I wouldn't trade it for an AMD platform CPU.

This thing runs better than half of the AM3 processors out there

Jamiemydearx3

It also uses a lot more energy and puts out a lot more heat, you should get a q9550. Q6600 is dated.

lol thats funny. the important thing is, it gets the job done, amazingly.
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#20 SLIisaownsystem
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i didnt

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#21 Luminouslight
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[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]

Purely for gaming, the Phenom is generally the way to go because it performs very similar to the i7/i5 lineup for a lower price. However, if you do anything such as folding, video encoding, etc, then i7 performs significantly better and is more worth the cost.

04dcarraher
I wouldnt use the word significantly for the i7's since they only shave seconds not minutes over Phenom 2's. Plus why just get i7 just for folding or video when you can use Nvidia CUDA which creams both CPU's :P.

When it comes to folding, the difference is quite big. Only the i7 and above is able to complete -bigadv in time to achieve the bonus points.
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#22 hartsickdiscipl
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i7 and above? What's above for consumers?

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#23 GazaAli
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i7 and above? What's above for consumers?

hartsickdiscipl
apparently i9s :P
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#24 Luminouslight
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i7 and above? What's above for consumers?

hartsickdiscipl

Basically server processors like the Gainstown with a motherboard like this. Nothing most consumers will even consider though.

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#25 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

i7 and above? What's above for consumers?

GazaAli

apparently i9s :P

i9's that aren't out yet?

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#26 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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I just got one, phenom x2 550be. Best cpu I could find for my budget, was actually less money that I had allocated to my cpu costs so I used the extra cash to go dx11. From what I have seen of benchmarks and peoples opinions in general is that it performs very well.

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#27 JigglyWiggly_
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My qx6700 from 2006 is still competitive :P
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Well, I upgraded from a Q9300 to a Phenom II X4 965 and my Windows experience score for processor went from 5.9 to 7.6 and in general everything I do is faster, especially gaming. I am running my PII with a CoolerMaster V8 @ 3.81ghz and that 6MB of L3 cache and DDR3 do help, lol. In reality the PII's perform in between a Core2 Quad and a i7 and very closely to a i5. But yeah, with the right mobo PII's are downright screamers. Very happy with my upgrade

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Well, I upgraded from a Q9300 to a Phenom II X4 965 and my Windows experience score for processor went from 5.9 to 7.6 and in general everything I do is faster, especially gaming. I am running my PII with a CoolerMaster V8 @ 3.81ghz and that 6MB of L3 cache and DDR3 do help, lol. In reality the PII's perform in between a Core2 Quad and a i7 and very closely to a i5. But yeah, with the right mobo PII's are downright screamers. Very happy with my upgrade

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Eh that intel ocs to 4.0ghz without too much hassle.
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my phenom II is amazing.. :)

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IMO AMD Phenom II line is the best bang for your buck. Sure a ferrari would be nice but I can still keep up with it in my Nissan GT-R... that's the way I see it.

All my friends and I are rocking 550be's and 720be's. We couldn't be happier with the performance we're getting out of these processors for the price! They unlock easy to quads and even if they don't they're still the best bang for the buck you can buy.

CPM_basic

Did you just honestly say the new GTR can keep up with a Ferrari...Dude both cars are in different ****s but this is a PC thread i'm not going to get into specs of Different types of cars :)

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[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

IMO AMD Phenom II line is the best bang for your buck. Sure a ferrari would be nice but I can still keep up with it in my Nissan GT-R... that's the way I see it.

All my friends and I are rocking 550be's and 720be's. We couldn't be happier with the performance we're getting out of these processors for the price! They unlock easy to quads and even if they don't they're still the best bang for the buck you can buy.

Neo_revolution7

Did you just honestly say the new GTR can keep up with a Ferrari...Dude both cars are in different ****s but this is a PC thread i'm not going to get into specs of Different types of cars :)

you can mod a GTR to achieve Ferrari speeds and above.

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[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

IMO AMD Phenom II line is the best bang for your buck. Sure a ferrari would be nice but I can still keep up with it in my Nissan GT-R... that's the way I see it.

All my friends and I are rocking 550be's and 720be's. We couldn't be happier with the performance we're getting out of these processors for the price! They unlock easy to quads and even if they don't they're still the best bang for the buck you can buy.

Neo_revolution7

Did you just honestly say the new GTR can keep up with a Ferrari...Dude both cars are in different ****s but this is a PC thread i'm not going to get into specs of Different types of cars :)

Actually, stock the GT-R can keep up with most Ferraris. I know this isn't a car thread, but I had to jump in when I saw someone question that. A new GTR does 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 11.8-11.9, and tops out over 190mph. There aren't that many Ferraris that are beating that. Plus the GTR has absolute top-notch handling and lapped the Nurburgring faster than any Ferrari except for the Enzo.

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Check their prices. A proper i7 would cost much more than AMD's top of the line gaming CPU.
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#35 mrmyles
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In an effort to avoid repeating too much of what has already been said I'll keep it short :P

They are excellent CPUs for the price you pay, I'm currently running a 955 at 3.4 GHz and it's fantastic. I'm not interested in folding or video encoding so I guess an i7 would be a waste of money. For my gaming & programming needs the Phenom II is all I'll need for the forseeable.

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funny story: i just got a 955, am3 mobo, 850W psu and 4GB of ram to fix my PC. still doesn't work. guess what was broken all this time.
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lol i just bought a Phenom II black edition like 3 weeks ago haha. true thread is true
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I bought Phenom X2 550 and unlocked to quad core for 100usd only :)

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#40 scoots9
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[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

IMO AMD Phenom II line is the best bang for your buck. Sure a ferrari would be nice but I can still keep up with it in my Nissan GT-R... that's the way I see it.

All my friends and I are rocking 550be's and 720be's. We couldn't be happier with the performance we're getting out of these processors for the price! They unlock easy to quads and even if they don't they're still the best bang for the buck you can buy.

hartsickdiscipl

Did you just honestly say the new GTR can keep up with a Ferrari...Dude both cars are in different ****s but this is a PC thread i'm not going to get into specs of Different types of cars :)

Actually, stock the GT-R can keep up with most Ferraris. I know this isn't a car thread, but I had to jump in when I saw someone question that. A new GTR does 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 11.8-11.9, and tops out over 190mph. There aren't that many Ferraris that are beating that. Plus the GTR has absolute top-notch handling and lapped the Nurburgring faster than any Ferrari except for the Enzo.

It can keep up to with it to a point. Because of AWD it launches well, but after 60 it starts to fall behind. Still, better than most car Analogies I've heard. But I'd rather have a Corvette ZR1 or Viper ACR (Both of which are cheaper than the Ferarri) :) Huh... what? Computers? Oh... right.

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cheap mobo, cheap cpu and good for gaming, but i didn't
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#42 hartsickdiscipl
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Neo_revolution7"]

Did you just honestly say the new GTR can keep up with a Ferrari...Dude both cars are in different ****s but this is a PC thread i'm not going to get into specs of Different types of cars :)

scoots9

Actually, stock the GT-R can keep up with most Ferraris. I know this isn't a car thread, but I had to jump in when I saw someone question that. A new GTR does 0-60 in less than 3.5 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 11.8-11.9, and tops out over 190mph. There aren't that many Ferraris that are beating that. Plus the GTR has absolute top-notch handling and lapped the Nurburgring faster than any Ferrari except for the Enzo.

It can keep up to with it to a point. Because of AWD it launches well, but after 60 it starts to fall behind. Still, better than most car Analogies I've heard. But I'd rather have a Corvette ZR1 or Viper ACR (Both of which are cheaper than the Ferarri) :) Huh... what? Computers? Oh... right.

If a car can keep up through the 1/4 mile, at which point it's doing 120mph, that's fast enough to me. Plus the fact that it can beat the Ferraris around the 'Ring proves that it's faster once curves are thrown-in. Anyways.... I'd take any of these cars we're talking about! :D The problem with the GTR is that you can't get a proper manual gearbox with it in the US! I'll just have to stick with my Z!

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#43 shakmaster13
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My qx6700 from 2006 is still competitive :P JigglyWiggly_

Those are incredible OC'ers. I know someone who went to 4.5 ghz on air cooling trying to max out crysis two years ago. I don't know if it stayed stable when he played games for long periods though, I remember he mentioned he bumped it down to 4.3 just to be safe. Probably heated up way too much.

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I just like Intel, very reliable and robust in my opinion. never tried AMD tho, we dont have them here.GazaAli
amd has been far more reliable in my experience, sleep mode never seems to work for me on intel but always works with amd. plus more core 2 system never ran as fast on the desktop as my athlon x2 system did. maybe asus and intel don't mix well but the intel one caused my far more problems.
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#45 imprezawrx500
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Purely for gaming, the Phenom is generally the way to go because it performs very similar to the i7/i5 lineup for a lower price. However, if you do anything such as folding, video encoding, etc, then i7 performs significantly better and is more worth the cost.

Luminouslight

it's still hardly worth the extra when you will still be waiting over night for a render job. i7 is better if you have the money but besides slightly faster rendering you wont notice any difference.

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I got my 955 because it was cheap and ran nearly as good in games I don't do video encoding so the i7 seemed like a waste.
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[QUOTE="simardbrad"]

I have a Q6600 and I wouldn't trade it for an AMD platform CPU.

This thing runs better than half of the AM3 processors out there

Jamiemydearx3

It also uses a lot more energy and puts out a lot more heat, you should get a q9550. Q6600 is dated.

The Q6600 may be dated and relatively inefficient due to the old 65nm process, but why should anyone spend another US$250 or so on a new CPU for a negligible performance difference? Let's face it, anyone with a Q6600 that can be overclocked decently shouldn't need to upgrade until maybe Sandy Bridge. Most games tend to hammer the GPU far more, so the money might as well go toward something like an HD Radeon 5850. That said, if I bought my desktop NOW rather than two years and two months ago (where it was largely 65nm Core 2 Duo/Quad vs. the failtacular original Phenom), I'd probably go Phenom II myself due to price-to-performance reasons and lack of socket hell with Intel. (LGA1156 AND LGA1366 for the consumer segment? What are they thinking?)
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]I just like Intel, very reliable and robust in my opinion. never tried AMD tho, we dont have them here.imprezawrx500
amd has been far more reliable in my experience, sleep mode never seems to work for me on intel but always works with amd. plus more core 2 system never ran as fast on the desktop as my athlon x2 system did. maybe asus and intel don't mix well but the intel one caused my far more problems.

Im not sure about Asus anymore, my previous mobo was horrible. anyway i have never tried AMD to be honest, we dont have them here.