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#1 incarnum13
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i want you to go thru the RTS games and tell me what made them suck (what RTS games you have played) everything from hotkeys to units, what made and broke RTS games for you. feel free to drag on will intend on reading it all
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#2 carlosjuero
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Bad dialogue, disjointed story line (or lack of an SP story line), over/under powered units too early/late in game, units with no reason to exist, bad AI pathing, too much 'turtle' in the AI stream, well the list can go on forever. The key would be to demo a bunch of different types of RTS (get demos of ones that have good reviews, and ones that have bad reviews) and see for yourself. Then make up a list of what you found wrong/right and ask for some input from the community :)
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#3 incarnum13
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do you know a site i can pick up demos at?
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#4 deactivated-5f0340ca5ecca
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http://www.filefront.com/ Game demos link ...
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#5 incarnum13
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wow thats alot, thank you do you know wich ones i should start on, or dive into first. i dont think i have the time to go through them all, or the space
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#6 Tomahawkeban
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I love RTS, It's my favorite genre. You should try the StarCraft saga.
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#7 artfoundry
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I haven't really played any bad RTSs, mostly because I research pretty much every game I intend to buy to make sure I'll enjoy playing it (of course, occasionally I miss, but usually the game is enjoyable for the most part). However, I can tell you some things that would ruin the game for me:

- Imbalance: Different races/teams need to be balanced, otherwise there's no point in playing the weaker one (unless you really want a challenge), especially in multiplayer

- Poor AI: If you only play single player, an unintelligent AI will make the game boring, pure and simple. Games need at least a bit of challenge to hold your interest long term

- UI (user interface): For RTSs, UI is very important because there are often numerous units on screen at once, and they will often be pretty small. There simply must be a good method for finding, selecting, and controlling any number of units.

- Graphics: While not as important as the other things, graphics are still important for the same reason UI is - units are likely to be small, so you'll need to be able to tell what type of unit something is by looking at it. Clearly made models/sprites are thus pretty important.

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#8 incarnum13
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I was on another forum and i was told "just use the lord of the rings map builder, it can be customized any way you want" but doesn't this mean i need there permission or there get royalties? Or can sue me if I don't ask them?
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#9 jwsoul
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Get Dawn of War and Addons, get the latest AI Mod sorted!

Same with Dawn of War 2.

Try Cossacks

Star Craft

War Craft 3

Command and Conquer Games as well

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#10 Metallica51
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Get Dawn of War and Addons, get the latest AI Mod sorted!

Same with Dawn of War 2.

Try Cossacks

Star Craft

War Craft 3

Command and Conquer Games as well

jwsoul

all of these bar War Craft are my fav seris.

C&C are easy to play. COMMAND=select whole of army CONQUER=right click enemy base. And yet I keep coming back to it.

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#11 artfoundry
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I was on another forum and i was told "just use the lord of the rings map builder, it can be customized any way you want" but doesn't this mean i need there permission or there get royalties? Or can sue me if I don't ask them? incarnum13

Which LOTR map builder are you referring to? Generally if a company includes the toolset with the game, you're free to use it as you like and distribute what you produce with it, as long as you don't try to sell what you produce.

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#12 incarnum13
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see thats where i would fail, lol not makeing a little game, makeing a state of the art game, bt i want it to be cheeper then others, so it wont be coming out for 50 bucks a copy
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#13 TerroRizing
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good rts, pretty much anything high profile on pc... bad rts, anything played using a console. Just like every other game made for pc and then ported to console, there is a reason pc gaming is still so popular.

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#14 -Origin-
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Sins of a Solar Empire is a fantastic RTS, hands down one of the best on PC. I'm not really in the mood to list all the pros and cons.. if you're interested in that, I suggest you read the review.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sinsofasolarempire/review.html?tag=result;score;0

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I love RTS, It's my favorite genre. You should try the StarCraft saga.Tomahawkeban
Huh, saga? There's one game and an expansion. :|

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#16 -Origin-
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[QUOTE="Tomahawkeban"]I love RTS, It's my favorite genre. You should try the StarCraft saga._Memento_

Huh, saga? There's one game and an expansion. :|

rofl yeah I thought calling starcraft a saga was a bit much..

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#17 incarnum13
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thank you this stuff is very helpful, feel free to keep going, i love the impute and the games that you have told e about, if any of you have seen fourms like this on other sites feel free to post link so i can see what they have said. thanks again i will keep checking this every day, if i wanted to sell it with royalties and story rights, who would i want to go through, anything but blizzerd. thanks again, and thanks for dealing with my grammer i am in a bit of a hurry. heading to bed