EVGA running B-stock specials, GTX 570 for $289, 460 768mb for $99!

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#1 hartsickdiscipl
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Check it out folks-

http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20

Just thought I'd give a heads-up to anybody looking to get a beefy GPU for cheap. Quite a few other good deals on there too. I've bought a few things off of EVGA's B-stock before, and had pretty good luck.

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Jeebus, P55 FTW for 110 bucks...

The temptation... :(

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#3 Gambler_3
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If I was in the US I'll totally buy that GTX 470 for $190.:(

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#4 gmaster456
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Those deals are insane
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#5 i5750at4Ghz
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Impossible to beat 2 gtx 460s for $200. Best deal I've ever seen in my many years of rig building.
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Well there you go, a EVGA GTX 580 for $430. :P
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#7 JetB1ackNewYear
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how would a 512mb 4870 run against the 768mb 460? i have the 4870 still
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Impossible to beat 2 gtx 460s for $200. Best deal I've ever seen in my many years of rig building. i5750at4Ghz
I'll take a GTX 470 over 768MB GTX 460 SLI.

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#9 i5750at4Ghz
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how would a 512mb 4870 run against the 768mb 460? i have the 4870 stillJetB1ackNewYear
Honestly not much of a difference. Like 20% or so. Still have a 4870 in my second rig, it's aged well.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Impossible to beat 2 gtx 460s for $200. Best deal I've ever seen in my many years of rig building. Gambler_3

I'll take a GTX 470 over 768MB GTX 460 SLI.

Yeah and would get your ass kicked in every single game/bench mark out there. It's exactly what I have in my rig and it completely crushes a gtx 470.

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[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]how would a 512mb 4870 run against the 768mb 460? i have the 4870 stilli5750at4Ghz
Honestly not much of a difference. Like 20% or so. Still have a 4870 in my second rig, it's aged well.

ya im still using my 4870 and its still a great card. its 2 gens behind almost gonna be 3. but i can still get a lot of good eye candy out of it.
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Impossible to beat 2 gtx 460s for $200. Best deal I've ever seen in my many years of rig building. i5750at4Ghz

I'll take a GTX 470 over 768MB GTX 460 SLI.

Yeah and would get your ass kicked in every single game/bench mark out there. It's exactly what I have in my rig and it completely crushes a gtx 470.

Nah the difference isnt big at all in intense DX11 games. Not worth dealing with SLI.

It actually performs worse since minimum FPS is much better on 470. I know it performs better in other games but I dont really need that much performance in other games anyways. I game at 16x10 so GTX 470 is almighty for me as it is, I need not bother with SLI.

Relatively GTX 470 is about 35% faster which is good enough for me to forgo superior performance with a second card.

And not to mention in SLI you are still limited to 768MB ram which could be a problem in the coming future....

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#13 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]I'll take a GTX 470 over 768MB GTX 460 SLI.

Gambler_3

Yeah and would get your ass kicked in every single game/bench mark out there. It's exactly what I have in my rig and it completely crushes a gtx 470.

Nah the difference isnt big at all in intense DX11 games. Not worth dealing with SLI.

It actually performs worse since minimum FPS is much better on 470. I know it performs better in other games but I dont really need that much performance in other games anyways. I game at 16x10 so GTX 470 is almighty for me as it is, I need not bother with SLI.

Relatively GTX 470 is about 35% faster which is good enough for me to forgo superior performance with a second card.

And not to mention in SLI you are still limited to 768MB ram which could be a problem in the coming future....

However you look at it gtx 460 sli is more powerful than a gtx 470 for about the same price. SLI is mindless, it just works. In the vast, vast majority of games not even a gtx 480 can matchup to the 460 setup let alone a 470.

Seems to me you've been misinformed about SLI setups.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Yeah and would get your ass kicked in every single game/bench mark out there. It's exactly what I have in my rig and it completely crushes a gtx 470.

i5750at4Ghz

Nah the difference isnt big at all in intense DX11 games. Not worth dealing with SLI.

It actually performs worse since minimum FPS is much better on 470. I know it performs better in other games but I dont really need that much performance in other games anyways. I game at 16x10 so GTX 470 is almighty for me as it is, I need not bother with SLI.

Relatively GTX 470 is about 35% faster which is good enough for me to forgo superior performance with a second card.

And not to mention in SLI you are still limited to 768MB ram which could be a problem in the coming future....

However you look at it gtx 460 sli is more powerful than a gtx 470 for about the same price. SLI is mindless, it just works. In the vast, vast majority of games not even a gtx 480 can matchup to the 460 setup let alone a 470.

Seems to me you've been misinformed about SLI setups.

Aside from Crysis 2 sli/crossfireX dreaded flickering fiasco, GTX 460 sli works pretty well most of the time. If one is going to sli GTX 460's then I urge the 1GB version at least. They perform better than a single GTX 580, for a lot less $$$. So price/performance, it's the best deal on the green side. I would know, I owned a couple of them and I now have a GTX 580. Another great thing about GTX 460 is the overclocking headroom, while as a GTX 580 overclocks about 5%. Needless to say it doesn't need much overclocking anyways. :P
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#15 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Nah the difference isnt big at all in intense DX11 games. Not worth dealing with SLI.

It actually performs worse since minimum FPS is much better on 470. I know it performs better in other games but I dont really need that much performance in other games anyways. I game at 16x10 so GTX 470 is almighty for me as it is, I need not bother with SLI.

Relatively GTX 470 is about 35% faster which is good enough for me to forgo superior performance with a second card.

And not to mention in SLI you are still limited to 768MB ram which could be a problem in the coming future....

Elann2008

However you look at it gtx 460 sli is more powerful than a gtx 470 for about the same price. SLI is mindless, it just works. In the vast, vast majority of games not even a gtx 480 can matchup to the 460 setup let alone a 470.

Seems to me you've been misinformed about SLI setups.

Aside from Crysis 2 sli/crossfireX dreaded flickering fiasco, GTX 460 sli works pretty well most of the time. If one is going to sli GTX 460's then I urge the 1GB version at least. They perform better than a single GTX 580, for a lot less $$$. So price/performance, it's the best deal on the green side. I would know, I owned a couple of them and I now have a GTX 580. Another great thing about GTX 460 is the overclocking headroom, while as a GTX 580 overclocks about 5%. Needless to say it doesn't need much overclocking anyways. :P

Yeah my cards are at 850 mhz, at these speeds they're better than a HD 5970.
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I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

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That almost made me consider getting the GTX 570, but my current 4870 isnt crying yet, and I'd like to see what nvidia can do with the 600s first

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I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

Gambler_3
Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. The difference between a 768MB and a 1GB 460 in sli is like 3 or 4 frames. So yes you are being irrational. A gtx 470 can't even begin to overclock as well as a gtx 460. The thing runs at 80C+ at stock speeds let alone OCed speeds. A gtx 460 can go from stock speeds of 675mhz to anywhere up to and beyond 850mhz. Thats a 25% OC at least all on stock voltage. You're posts are full of misinformation.
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#19 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

i5750at4Ghz

Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. The difference between a 768MB and a 1GB 460 in sli is like 3 or 4 frames. So yes you are being irrational. A gtx 470 can't even begin to overclock as well as a gtx 460. The thing runs at 80C+ at stock speeds let alone OCed speeds. A gtx 460 can go from stock speeds of 675mhz to anywhere up to and beyond 850mhz. Thats a 25% OC at least all on stock voltage. You're posts are full of misinformation.

I might be misinformed about SLI as I have never really considered it but I have done my research on GTX 470.

The actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 26.7%.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_470/33.html

It runs at exactly the same temps with overclocking.....

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

Gambler_3

Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. The difference between a 768MB and a 1GB 460 in sli is like 3 or 4 frames. So yes you are being irrational. A gtx 470 can't even begin to overclock as well as a gtx 460. The thing runs at 80C+ at stock speeds let alone OCed speeds. A gtx 460 can go from stock speeds of 675mhz to anywhere up to and beyond 850mhz. Thats a 25% OC at least all on stock voltage. You're posts are full of misinformation.

I might be misinformed about SLI as I have never really considered it but I have done my research on GTX 470.

The actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 26.7%.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_470/33.html

It runs at exactly the same temps with overclocking.....

Yeah with massive fan/voltage increases and 90C+ temps. Not exactly what I would call 24/7 ready.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. The difference between a 768MB and a 1GB 460 in sli is like 3 or 4 frames. So yes you are being irrational. A gtx 470 can't even begin to overclock as well as a gtx 460. The thing runs at 80C+ at stock speeds let alone OCed speeds. A gtx 460 can go from stock speeds of 675mhz to anywhere up to and beyond 850mhz. Thats a 25% OC at least all on stock voltage. You're posts are full of misinformation. i5750at4Ghz

I might be misinformed about SLI as I have never really considered it but I have done my research on GTX 470.

The actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 26.7%.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_470/33.html

It runs at exactly the same temps with overclocking.....

Yeah with massive fan/voltage increases and 90C+ temps. Not exactly what I would call 24/7 ready.

I'm with you on this. I'm ok with a little bit of voltage tweaking and messing with the fan settings, as long as the card is still running cool and quiet. My GTX 460 1GB was OC'd to 911mhz core 24/7 stable by moving the voltage up 2-3 steps over stock. I didn't even have to touch the fan profiles, and it was inaudible. Temps never hit over 75 degrees C either. Now THAT's a massive gain in performance from overclocking while still staying 24/7 viable.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. The difference between a 768MB and a 1GB 460 in sli is like 3 or 4 frames. So yes you are being irrational. A gtx 470 can't even begin to overclock as well as a gtx 460. The thing runs at 80C+ at stock speeds let alone OCed speeds. A gtx 460 can go from stock speeds of 675mhz to anywhere up to and beyond 850mhz. Thats a 25% OC at least all on stock voltage. You're posts are full of misinformation. i5750at4Ghz

I might be misinformed about SLI as I have never really considered it but I have done my research on GTX 470.

The actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 26.7%.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_470/33.html

It runs at exactly the same temps with overclocking.....

Yeah with massive fan/voltage increases and 90C+ temps. Not exactly what I would call 24/7 ready.

Did you bother reading?

The overclocks listed here were achieved with the default fan and voltage settings as defined in the VGA BIOS.

:roll:

The overclocks of our card are 743 MHz core (22% overclock) and 940 MHz Memory (12% overclock). The memory clock is a bit disappointing, but core is going strong at clock speeds that are higher than the GeForce GTX 480 reference clocks.

This was achieved with the stock voltage and fan and THIS is the setting they ran the COD4 benchmark with. The voltage tuning was done seperately for information purposes for those who dont mind volt modding.

And it is running at 91 at stock as well so yes it is 24/7 ready....

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]I might be misinformed about SLI as I have never really considered it but I have done my research on GTX 470.

The actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 26.7%.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_470/33.html

It runs at exactly the same temps with overclocking.....

hartsickdiscipl

Yeah with massive fan/voltage increases and 90C+ temps. Not exactly what I would call 24/7 ready.

I'm with you on this. I'm ok with a little bit of voltage tweaking and messing with the fan settings, as long as the card is still running cool and quiet. My GTX 460 1GB was OC'd to 911mhz core 24/7 stable by moving the voltage up 2-3 steps over stock. I didn't even have to touch the fan profiles, and it was inaudible. Temps never hit over 75 degrees C either. Now THAT's a massive gain in performance from overclocking while still staying 24/7 viable.

You also didnt actually pay attention to what I posted.:(

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No increase with overclocking, the card is just meant to run at those temps....

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#25 i5750at4Ghz
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No increase with overclocking, the card is just meant to run at those temps....

Gambler_3

The benchmark was run at different speeds than the max overclock. My post assumed you were talking about the max overclock. Buying a card that runs at 90C+ degrees at stock voltage/fan speeds would be a bone head move imo.

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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

i5750at4Ghz
Again not true. SLI works out of the box on any game released on PC. You can find SLI profiles for games like Star wars the old republic which doesn't even have a release date. Crysis 2 worked day one for me using SLI, the flicker is a crossfire issue not a SLI issue. You're posts are full of misinformation.

SLI does not work out of the box for every PC game. Without Nvidia Inspector Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (just one example) will only use one gpu. It is common for new games not to have SLI/Crossfire support at release and requires either a new driver or profile. It isn't a big deal to me but it does aggravate some people. Also, the flicker in Crysis 2 is an issue with both SLI and Crossfire. Some people have not had the flicker issue but most people running a multi-gpu setup have had problems with it in Crysis 2. The reality is there are some bugs and issues with multi-gpu setups that have to be worked out thru profiles/drivers.
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#27 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

No increase with overclocking, the card is just meant to run at those temps....

i5750at4Ghz

The benchmark was run at different speeds than the max overclock. My post assumed you were talking about the max overclock. Buying a card that runs at 90C+ degrees at stock voltage/fan speeds would be a bone head move imo.

Well ya it does run hot by default so ya it is a disadvantage I never said otherwise. But I didnt get my HAF 922 to get intimidated with hot hardware. People have been running their 470's just fine, you just better have a decent casing.

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No increase with overclocking, the card is just meant to run at those temps....

Gambler_3

Just because the cooler keeps the card at an insane temperature whether OC'd or not doesn't mean it's ok. I would never buy a card that I thought might hit over 90 degrees C, OC'd or not.

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I will take 1GB GTX 460 SLI but I am dont want 768MB, maybe I am being irrational but that's the way it is.

GTX 470 overclocks just as well as 460 btw....

It happened with the release of crysis as well, SLI owners had to wait alot of time to get SLI working properly, it happens with alot of major releases. Single GTX 460 768MB cannot max out crysis 2, I just despise having to wait for drivers to max out a game!

Gambler_3

Very true. Some people till this day are stuck with flickering with their crossfireX/sli setup on Crysis 2. Many, have halted playing the campaign until they fix it. Which is sad and something that shouldn't happen. Because of reasons like this, I have opted for a single GPU setup (GTX 580). I'm not saying one shouldn't go with multiple-gpu setup, that's their preference and one or a few games shouldn't sway their buying decision. I just don't want to deal with it, that's all. Again, I would always recommend a single-GPU over sli/crossfire, but if someone really wanted to go that route, my highest recommendation would be the GTX 460 1GB sli. It's dirt cheap and it crushes every game out there at 1080p/1200p. I wouldn't even bother sli'ing anything else unless you have money to blow.

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$189.99 for a GTX 470.... Would I see a big improvment over my GTX 260? Is it even worth the switch?
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$189.99 for a GTX 470.... Would I see a big improvment over my GTX 260? Is it even worth the switch?SPARTAN_D7
That's a pretty big upgrade.:)

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Thanks for posting this! Just bought the gtx 570 for $289.00, thats a great deal!

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#33 blaznwiipspman1
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so B stock means refurbished, second grade? Plus 90 day warranty/no accessories...hm I guess the prices are too good to be true. I will stick to my double life time warranty thnx.

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#34 tequilasunriser
Member since 2004 • 6379 Posts

Must. Not. Upgrade. HD4850 512MB. Yet.

HD7000 and GTX 600 series need to get here soon. I'm getting antsy. :S

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#35 Elann2008
Member since 2007 • 33028 Posts

so B stock means refurbished, second grade? Plus 90 day warranty/no accessories...hm I guess the prices are too good to be true. I will stick to my double life time warranty thnx.

blaznwiipspman1

It does NOT mean used or refurbished. These are new items, unused, but they have a blemish. You should buy with confidence.

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#36 James161324
Member since 2009 • 8315 Posts

Two 460's are a great deal, there are some issues with sli, but with the past games i have seen it less, homefront and crysis 2 both had sli support day 1,

but 200 dollars for what will bet a 570 and can stand up to a 580 is a great deal

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#37 Makari
Member since 2003 • 15250 Posts

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

so B stock means refurbished, second grade? Plus 90 day warranty/no accessories...hm I guess the prices are too good to be true. I will stick to my double life time warranty thnx.

Elann2008

It does NOT mean used or refurbished. These are new items, unused, but they have a blemish. You should buy with confidence.

huh, really? i thought b-stock was just a reference to a type of used item. though yeah, these do only have a 90 day warranty vs. evga's usual 'register me for lifetime warranty' thing. :\ 570 is tempting!
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#38 superclocked
Member since 2009 • 5864 Posts
Nice find, though I'll stick with my 2GB 560.. My games are already using 2GB of VRAM @ 1080p. Alot of people seem to be upgrading though, good job :)
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#39 ATLReppa770
Member since 2005 • 4208 Posts

570. Temping. Must .. remain strong.

Wait a second. 90 day warranty? HAH. No thanks.

I'll wait 'till my card breaks in 5+ years, and I get a free upgrade to the then-current equivalent card.

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#40 Bikouchu35
Member since 2009 • 8344 Posts

Must. Not. Upgrade. HD4850 512MB. Yet.

HD7000 and GTX 600 series need to get here soon. I'm getting antsy. :S

tequilasunriser

Dont than.

Just wait, I jumped from 8800gts to gtx460 768 and wasnt fully satisfied. I like big jumps for my upgrade.

As for the gtx 470, that card is a beast with temps and noise. @.@ thats why I got rid it.

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#41 Elann2008
Member since 2007 • 33028 Posts
[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

so B stock means refurbished, second grade? Plus 90 day warranty/no accessories...hm I guess the prices are too good to be true. I will stick to my double life time warranty thnx.

Makari

It does NOT mean used or refurbished. These are new items, unused, but they have a blemish. You should buy with confidence.

huh, really? i thought b-stock was just a reference to a type of used item. though yeah, these do only have a 90 day warranty vs. evga's usual 'register me for lifetime warranty' thing. :\ 570 is tempting!

Yes, really. :D