Fallout 3 info and Screens (56k)

Over at the Bethesda site, new details about Fallout 3 have been revealed through a Q & A session between fans and the devs. The whole text is lengthy, but the main points have been summarized for your convenience.

A trifecta of new screenshots were also posted and they're looking fabulous like the previous ones we've seen. In any case, here are the new details as listed by Xbox 360 Fanboy:

• Armor sets come in two pieces, body and head
  
• Inventory limit is based on weight
  
• Children and essential NPC's are unkillable
  
• Good/Evil karma system relating to in-game choices
  
• Crimes committed against specific groups are known to all in the group throughout the game world
  
• NPC's navigate via a mesh instead of via a point to point system like in Oblivion and Morrowind
  
• Like Oblivion the game uses a skill list and those skills determine maximum possible effectiveness in battle
  
• Faces are customizable, but not bodies
  
• The player can crouch and sneak around
  
• Many of the old Fallout traits return, only now as skill perks
  
• Fast travel is only available to places you've been before
  
• Not all non-humans are hostile: "some can be reasoned with and even hired."
  
• Player "perception" functions like the Oblivion compass

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Sorry if old...I searched around and saw nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuDKrY7eW0

Sadly that's the closest we'll ever get to Fallout 3. RIP Fallout series :(

Traits and perks are merged.

So our worst fears are confirmed..... Oblivion with firearms. *sigh* SuperBeast

So our worst fears are confirmed..... Oblivion with firearms. *sigh* SuperBeast

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuDKrY7eW0

Sadly that's the closest we'll ever get to Fallout 3. RIP Fallout series :(

SuperBeast

This is just hilarious, if they are going to rape a famous CRPG for the console audience you would think they would at least have graphics as a sales point. The game is obviously suffering from the console memory limitations Oblivion did, mud textures everywhere.

I think I'll stick with my 2D sprites thank you very much, stylised sprites and a little imagination is better than console mud any day. At least with the old Fallout games I'm getting a real CRPG experience.

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

kozzy1234

Well you can forget about the humor part. Bethesda found Black Isle's humor "immature"...they think blowing off someone's head is what makes a game "humorous"

Armor sets come in two pieces, body and head

Only 2? That sounds like some real character building right there. This is one of the changes that should have been made.

Inventory limit is based on weight

I prefer size and weight, but this isn't at all something to complain about.

Children and essential NPC's are unkillable

The fact that there even are essential NPCs says it all. I can understand them not making kids killable, considering the current climate in the games industry, but them putting kids in is a nice workaround, since they know the modding community will do it for them - in the PC version, anyway.

Good/Evil karma system relating to in-game choices

Choices are good, even if it is just good or bad. Will wait and see how this pans out.

Crimes committed against specific groups are known to all in the group throughout the game world

I always thought this was a stupid computer game contrivance, and I don't think it has any place in a game of 2008/9. I kill someone and someone a few hundred miles away automatically knows? If news takes time so travel, and you can literally move faster than your reputation, that could be awesome, but I don't wanna play with a load of psychics.

NPC's navigate via a mesh instead of via a point to point system like in Oblivion and Morrowind

Cool.

Like Oblivion the game uses a skill list and those skills determine maximum possible effectiveness in battle

Depends what they mean by effectiveness - if that translates to my % chance to hit, then okay. If it translates to how much damage my bullets do, that's ridiculous. I love roleplaying games, but I really hate some of their stupid contrivances.

I don't remember the Oblivion compass. Was it just a compass, or did it point exactly where I needed to go next? Well either way, at least they are developing features in relation to the character I've built, so I might not be some generic cookie-cutter character every time I play.

Some of this is potentially quite promising, but I'm not yet convinced. Far too many questions unanswered.

So our worst fears are confirmed..... Oblivion with firearms. *sigh* SuperBeast

that seems like a cheap shot if you are basing that simply from the screens. We already knew that Fallout 3 was going to be a full 3d universe using the Oblivion engine. And of course the game would have firearms. So what is so bad about these screens that clearly show us a post-apocalyptic 3d world with firearms? What would you expect otherwise?

Armor sets come in two pieces, body and head

Only 2? That sounds like some real character building right there. This is one of the changes that should have been made.fatshodan

Inventory limit is based on weight

I prefer size and weight, but this isn't at all something to complain about.fatshodan

Like Oblivion the game uses a skill list and those skills determine maximum possible effectiveness in battle

Depends what they mean by effectiveness - if that translates to my % chance to hit, then okay. If it translates to how much damage my bullets do, that's ridiculous. I love roleplaying games, but I really hate some of their stupid contrivances.fatshodan

Many of the old Fallout traits return, only now as skill perks

Does this mean there are no traits at all, or does it mean some traits were turned into perks? I don't see any good reason to remove traits.fatshodan

Fast travel is only available to places you've been before

This is an improvement over Oblivion, but I still don't like fast travel. Not a huge deal, though. I can always choose to not use it.fatshodan

Player "perception" functions like the Oblivion compass

I don't remember the Oblivion compass. Was it just a compass, or did it point exactly where I needed to go next? Well either way, at least they are developing features in relation to the character I've built, so I might not be some generic cookie-cutter character every time I play.

fatshodan

The choices and karma system sound relatively promising (definitely an improvement over Oblivion). I'm just worried that it'll be like Mass Effect. I think it was last week Pete said,

IGN AU: How do the choices you make about whether you play as a good guy or a bad guy affect the game?

Pete Hines: I don't think there are enormous differences. It's more the choices you make on a quest by quest basis. Whether or not you want to play them as a good guy or a bad guy and what the end result of that choice is. So it's not so much about people not talking to you because you're a bad guy with bad karma, as much as it is about using the karma to keep track and keep score on the kind of character you're playing. We want that reward and that payoff to be more in the choices you make and have it be more immediate. 'I'm playing this quest. I chose this path to try and finish the quest this way and how fun or interesting or rewarding was that experience based on the choices I made.' Or if you're playing as an evil bastard we want you to feel like the quest played out in a really satisfying way for me trying to be an evil bastard…

It doesn't sound so hot when he puts it like that.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

Evz0rz

Well you can forget about the humor part. Bethesda found Black Isle's humor "immature"...they think blowing off someone's head is what makes a game "humorous"

But but but.... Fallout 1 and 2 had some of the best humour that ive ever seen in a videogame!

[QUOTE="Evz0rz"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

kozzy1234

Well you can forget about the humor part. Bethesda found Black Isle's humor "immature"...they think blowing off someone's head is what makes a game "humorous"

But but but.... Fallout 1 and 2 had some of the best humour that ive ever seen in a videogame!

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="Evz0rz"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

Makari

Well you can forget about the humor part. Bethesda found Black Isle's humor "immature"...they think blowing off someone's head is what makes a game "humorous"

But but but.... Fallout 1 and 2 had some of the best humour that ive ever seen in a videogame!

In Fallout 3, oddly enough, there's no aimed "shots" when in hand-to-hand combat.

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="Evz0rz"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Ohhh man, I hope this game has decent atmosphere and humour and ill be happy.

Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all tiem favs games (even fallout tactics was somewhat fun to)

RobbieH1234

Well you can forget about the humor part. Bethesda found Black Isle's humor "immature"...they think blowing off someone's head is what makes a game "humorous"

But but but.... Fallout 1 and 2 had some of the best humour that ive ever seen in a videogame!

In Fallout 3, oddly enough, there's no aimed "shots" when in hand-to-hand combat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuDKrY7eW0

Sadly that's the closest we'll ever get to Fallout 3. RIP Fallout series :(

SuperBeast

Never seen that before...

I liked both Fallouts, I prefer 2, and I liked Oblivion...

I am looking forward to this and I think it looks good, but that Van Buren looks good too and makes me sad it's never coming out... can't we have both???? =P

Is it true that they will have a time limit to complete the game, hope not cuz i'd like to do as many diff. missions as possible like i did with the 2nd one.Precyse

[QUOTE="Precyse"]Is it true that they will have a time limit to complete the game, hope not cuz i'd like to do as many diff. missions as possible like i did with the 2nd one.RobbieH1234

Traits and perks are merged.

Baranga

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Traits and perks are merged.

thusaha

Best picture of Vault-Boy in a very long time.

So our worst fears are confirmed..... Oblivion with firearms. *sigh* SuperBeast

What i thought.

wait... he said the choices don't matter in the long run throughout the game, and they just matter on the current quest basis? Isn't that like saying "ah, screw RPG fans!"? I was hoping that maybe Bethesda turned around their old ways for a game like thiskpsting

Looks great, luckily I played no other Fallouts so this is my first and I am psychedToriko42

Luckily?...

Poor you.

I never played the first 2 fallout (because I can't, damn vista), but looking at this game info, I am curious about how it will turn out. I did not hated oblivion, I though it was a decent action-adventure game... Just not a real rpg.

Graphic wise, the game look horrible, sure in 2005 it would have been the best thing on earth, but we are almost in 2009 and this look like crap. Look at the terrible texture, the ugly grass, the blurry background and the lack of AA. Stupid console alway limit us and Bethesda is better to add workable AA with hdr this time... Ho well, I am too harsh, it still looks better than anything using the ut3 engine...

Good/Evil karma system relating to in-game choices

not a new feature by any stretch of the imagination.

why is everyone hating this game? It's nice to see a company adapting on a cult classic and so far looks like they have not butchered it.

So what Oblivion sucked to no end, at least they will learn from their mistakes and hire more than 2 people to do voice acting and use the charisma and humor from the writing in the original fallout games instead of making kindergarten level quests we became acustomed to in Oblivion, such as "kill the 3 giant mice in my basement" or "find a bottle of(insert random name here) in the cave full of homosexual trolls and zombies, p.s don't forget to kill the king of the giant rats".

To sum it up, Bethesda has their workcut out for them, the story and all the non technical stuff is practically all done by Blackisle. All they will do is handle the mostly technical aspect -- which is already mostly done too (using Gamebryo engine) , just make some new skins and textures and meshes and it's all done. You guys have nothing to worry about this game will be a hit and will get a 9.0 from most reviewers.

This is just hilarious, if they are going to rape a famous CRPG for the console audience you would think they would at least have graphics as a sales point. The game is obviously suffering from the console memory limitations Oblivion did, mud textures everywhere.

I think I'll stick with my 2D sprites thank you very much, stylised sprites and a little imagination is better than console mud any day. At least with the old Fallout games I'm getting a real CRPG experience.

AnnoyedDragon

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

This is just hilarious, if they are going to rape a famous CRPG for the console audience you would think they would at least have graphics as a sales point. The game is obviously suffering from the console memory limitations Oblivion did, mud textures everywhere.

I think I'll stick with my 2D sprites thank you very much, stylised sprites and a little imagination is better than console mud any day. At least with the old Fallout games I'm getting a real CRPG experience.

DaGamingGod

why is everyone hating this game? It's nice to see a company adapting on a cult classic and so far looks like they have not butchered it.

To sum it up, Bethesda has their workcut out for them, the story and all the non technical stuff is practically all done by Blackisle. All they will do is handle the mostly technical aspect -- which is already mostly done too (using Gamebryo engine) , just make some new skins and textures and meshes and it's all done. You guys have nothing to worry about this game will be a hit and will get a 9.0 from most reviewers.

p00pz

Sarcasm?