Fallout 3 or The Witcher

I'm thinking of getting a new game for my PC don't know whatRPG topurchase though can some one help me out. I also have a dilemma of shooters too its between TF 2 or CS:S.

The Witcher.

TF2.

I'd definitely recommend The Witcher and Team Fortress 2.
Counter-Strike Source is also great, but TF2 is constantly being updated with new weapons, maps and modes. Fallout 3 is just a bit dull (unless you really loved Oblivion).

get the witcher...ive played both and fallout 3 was uninstalled after half an hour due to the amount of glitches and bugs

nice i definitely know what to get now thanks guys.

The Witcher, no ****ing question.

whoa, hold the horses here mate.. Fallout 3 is an amazing experiance to play, it's still one of the most engaging games to play and with it's 4th downloadable content coming soon you shouldnt be too quick to dismiss it...the witcher is average compared to the sweat and blood that has given fallout 3 life. yeah it has bugs and glitches in it but it doesnt break the game to the point where you can't enjoy it. I would also just get the orange box as you get alot more then just team fortress 2.

whoa, hold the horses here mate.. Fallout 3 is an amazing experiance to play, it's still one of the most engaging games to play and with it's 4th downloadable content coming soon you shouldnt be too quick to dismiss it...the witcher is average compared to the sweat and blood that has given fallout 3 life. yeah it has bugs and glitches in it but it doesnt break the game to the point where you can't enjoy it. I would also just get the orange box as you get alot more then just team fortress 2.

The Witcher.

whoa, hold the horses here mate.. Fallout 3 is an amazing experiance to play, it's still one of the most engaging games to play and with it's 4th downloadable content coming soon you shouldnt be too quick to dismiss it...the witcher is average compared to the sweat and blood that has given fallout 3 life.

StarWatchers

Fallout 3's main plot was terrible, the role-playing options were mediocre (sure, there were more character types than the witcher, but they all ended up being roughly identical), the world was dull and ugly, the combat was mindless...and so on.

I haven't played the DLC, which might improve on all of those^^, but I don't see why he should have to buy additional content just to make the game 'amazing' to play.

Meanwhile, The Witcher is the best RPG of this generation. It seems like an easy choice to me (and everyone else in this thread, apparently).

*edit* Perhaps that was a bit harsh --> I generally enjoyed Fallout 3, I just don't think that it's a great game.

i wasnt too fond of oblivion but fallout 3 for alot of praise last year. Ill probably get the witcher and rent or borrow fallout for a console.

The Witcher is a great game, but bear in mind its not an open world like Fallout 3, although it does have loads of side quests that are there to add more to the game. The Witcher also looks better in my opinion, nice and colourfully detailed.

As for the FPS, I'd say TF2. CS:S is pretty unforgiving for new players and it might drive you crazy.

The Witcher hands down: it is a very polished, low taxing game, with a great (non carbon cut) story, and it aint afraid to touch on subjects that alot of games would shy from, it has an odd mix of dark humor, great combat, amazing details (just standing in Vizima and listening to what people whisper about might give you an idea to what to do, and where to go. More importantly the game does not hold your hand all the way, it acturally lets you do what you want. First playthrough for me: 80 hours

Fallout 3 aint bad, it really aint, I prefer it over Oblivion, and it is still this odd mix of rpg/adventure game, altho Fallout 3 seems to be more to the RPG side of things. The Combat is steller, altho close combat is kinda gimped. It is at a grand scale, but sadly it is the same set pieces recycled ad libitum, the weapons a fairly bare bone, altho the pc has options to lead in a huge number of well made weapons, and the DLC also adds quite a few. Fallout 3 is VERY glitchy to say the least, and it somehow amazes me that I could play Oblivion and never encounter a single Crash, while it took the devs 6 months to fix it enough for me leaving the vault without crashing and burning, and still now it crashes after a few hours of play, the story of the game is sort of moot, but it has a cute slapstick humor. Kept me interrested in little over 60 hours.

Oh the dilemma of CS:S vs TF2... well TF2 is newer and weill likely get most votes, partly because it IS never, I never cared for Team Fortress type games, and capture the flag always gave me a headache. If you find it fun? then it is likely the single best of such games ever made.

CS:S is slightly harder, not the game itself, but the players you are up against, to learn the game might take a few months (means that you will atleast know how weapons behave) but even then you will be used to mop the floor, because most players have playied... well... all thier lifes really :s IF you get good enough it is very fun tho, depending on server... Also has the awezome zombie mod ^^

whoa, hold the horses here mate.. Fallout 3 is an amazing experiance to play, it's still one of the most engaging games to play and with it's 4th downloadable content coming soon you shouldnt be too quick to dismiss it...the witcher is average compared to the sweat and blood that has given fallout 3 life. yeah it has bugs and glitches in it but it doesnt break the game to the point where you can't enjoy it. I would also just get the orange box as you get alot more then just team fortress 2.

StarWatchers

Your kidding....right? Witcher is a MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better game then Fallout 3. I played Fallout 3 for 20 hours and it really got dull and reptitive to me. I played The Witcher for 90 hours and was one of the best RPG experiances of all time to me.

Oh the dilemma of CS:S vs TF2... well TF2 is newer and weill likely get most votes, partly because it IS never, I never cared for Team Fortress type games, and capture the flag always gave me a headache. If you find it fun? then it is likely the single best of such games ever made.

CS:S is slightly harder, not the game itself, but the players you are up against, to learn the game might take a few months (means that you will atleast know how weapons behave) but even then you will be used to mop the floor, because most players have playied... well... all thier lifes really :s IF you get good enough it is very fun tho, depending on server... Also has the awezome zombie mod ^^

Maddie_Larkin

I haven't played TF2, but I used to play TF when it first came out...back when rocket jumps and conc jumps were huge and allowed easy access to many, many places. I only really screwed around on TF when a buddy and I would team up. We'd play through on a server for a while and by about the time we got bored one of us would switch to the other team and we'd take turns being a Scout or Medic - if I was the medic, I would infect my buddy (the scout) on the other team and he would run around and infect all his teammates. It would do for a good laugh for a little....but that's about all I used TF for.

I much more enjoyed Counter Strike; My buddy and I were really good back in the day. Him and I alone could slaughter other teams...we were constantly screamed at by others for cheating - which we never did, why would we need to when other players sucked? We were constatly bugged by some of the bigger CS clans because we'd join their servers and clean house (for the most part, we did have our bad days)...if it wasn't for college and we had more free time, we would have joined up. CS:S is more realistic - not truly realistic, but fairly close. I haven't really played for years (off and on here and there, but nothing like I used to do during my college years) and after you take a long break, you really do lose your edge.

I'm not as good as I used to be and the people that are good, they're the ones like I was back in the day - they have time to play and practice. You will get owned/slaughtered/torn apart (however yow ant to look at it) the first month or two if you haven't played this game before. You can practice by playing against bots, just start up your own personal server game and run it with a good handful of bots.

If you're looking for more realistic type game play, then CS:S is your choice. If you want something cartoony looking and silly, yet still offers a good online shooting experience from what I've heard - then TF2 might be more your style.

The Witcher.

TF2.

HenriH-42

The Witcher is a necessity. It is the best game since Planescape Torment, no question. Great story that is full of twists, and actual consequences for you actions! Instead of black and white, it is true shades of grey and most of the time I did not even know what was the best outcome or the best person to side with. It really made me think about what I am doing in the real world and neutrality.

Fallout 3 was a good game, only becuase of the world and the amount of detail in it. The story was sub-par and the moral choices were too easy to judge the right from the wrong. Which I am sick of. I luckily borrowed the game from a friend so I did not have to pay!

The TF2 and CS:S is a much harder debate. So I will leave it to the others to help you with that. But I reccomend TF2 becuase of the constant updates.

TF2

The Witcher is the best RPG of this generation and it's in my top 20 list of the best RPGs ever (I've played many many RPGs,from the '80 to Drakensang released this year (also a recommended game)).:D

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The Witcher.

TF2.

Litchie

Fallout 3 and CSS. Fallout 3 was better than The Witcher in many aspects - most notably, it's much more open ended in terms of character building and combat. I have alot of things which i don't quite like about the Witcher. notably, its bad translation really ruined the experience for me. to be honest, i never bothered to finish it.

CSS, because i loved CS1.6. :)

Fallout 3 was better than The Witcher in many aspects - most notably, it's much more open ended in terms of character building and combat.

Jinroh_basic

Too bad the character building is utterly broken. SPECIAL has no purpose, since you can easily upgradee every component. All skills except science and lockpick are useless. The perks have stupid bonuses, almost no penalty and they destroyed the traits.

The Witcher is infinetly deeper in character management, combat, inventory and especially story. The alchemy is a huge system on its own. The story... there's no contest.

The bad translation was fixed.

fallout 3

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Fallout 3 was better than The Witcher in many aspects - most notably, it's much more open ended in terms of character building and combat.

Baranga

Too bad the character building is utterly broken. SPECIAL has no purpose, since you can easily upgradee every component. All skills except science and lockpick are useless. The perks have stupid bonuses, almost no penalty and they destroyed the traits.

The Witcher is infinetly deeper in character management, combat, inventory and especially story. The alchemy is a huge system on its own. The story... there's no contest.

The bad translation was fixed.

nope, it was a far cry from being "fixed". i should know, mine is the Enhanced Edition. It was horrible. It was not "infinitely deeper" either, since there's only one way to manage your character. the combat, pfft. story was great, but as i said, the bad translation ruined it. i love the sex card tho. ;P jking.

One thing about the Witcher.... The enhanced version has a blurring glitch. After any dialog type scenes, the blur effect won't reset back to normal. There is a hotpatch for this, but on my PC the hotpatch messes up the sound for the FMV's. For example, in the opening movie I can hear the narration, but the music cuts in and out.

Strangely without the hotfix the FMV's play fine.... but then i have that blur problem. I did find out that you can copy the Witcher directory to another location on the harddrive, and that it will still work fine. So, if you have the HDD space for two copies of the witcher, it's possible to have a hotfix version of the game and a non-hotfix version... and they will both work with the same save file directory. And being that the hotfix has no uninstall feature, it's not a bad idea, either...

As for Fallout 3, I still get a whole load of random crashes on that one.... Crashes are near non-existent on the northern part of the map, but the further South I go the more crashes I recieve.

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As for TF versus TF2, not much is really different between the two. I mean rocket jumps are still present in the game and the more popular maps of oldare still intact, they just look different.But, TF2 is much funner to play than the orginal. Really, the only thing they removed were gernades from all clas-ses, and Friendly Fire and the game is really muchbetter, because of it. Another thing that was changed ison the 2fort map the capture point was moved to the basement, instead of the sniper tower.

The Witcher and CSS

I'm thinking of getting a new game for my PC don't know whatRPG topurchase though can some one help me out. I also have a dilemma of shooters too its between TF 2 or CS:S.

Rza_rectah

FAllout 3!

The Witcher, nuff said, a good example of old school rpg done right.

I'd say The Witcher, as well. But, the bugs have been fixed for Fallout 3 now. I had nothing but bad things to say about Betheseda and F3 six months ago, but I've played the game since, and it's a lot of fun. It runs smoothly, you can install some great mods. It's a very well made game.

I'd still play The Witcher first, if you haven't already. Particularly, if you like story-driven games.

nope, it was a far cry from being "fixed". i should know, mine is the Enhanced Edition. It was horrible.

Jinroh_basic

The dialogue may be a bit strange at times, but even with a broken translation The Witcher still has better writing than Fallout 3.

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nope, it was a far cry from being "fixed". i should know, mine is the Enhanced Edition. It was horrible.

Planeforger

The dialogue may be a bit strange at times, but even with a broken translation The Witcher still has better writing than Fallout 3.

Whats so broken with the translation? The EE fixed this pretty much so the voice and writing are a perfect. Not to mention everything about story,voice,character, and writing is a million times better then in fallout 3.

The Witcher > Fallout3

TF2 > Counterstrike Source (although both are very good)

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nope, it was a far cry from being "fixed". i should know, mine is the Enhanced Edition. It was horrible.

JangoWuzHere

The dialogue may be a bit strange at times, but even with a broken translation The Witcher still has better writing than Fallout 3.

Whats so broken with the translation? The EE fixed this pretty much so the voice and writing are a perfect. Not to mention everything about story,voice,character, and writing is a million times better then in fallout 3.

Oh, I haven't actually played through it entirely with the EE patch on - I just meant that even in the original version, while the translation was a bit broken at times, it still sounded far better than anything in Fallout 3.

I'm guessing that the EE is even better, but there are still a few strange convos, like the innkeeper in Act 1..

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[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

The dialogue may be a bit strange at times, but even with a broken translation The Witcher still has better writing than Fallout 3.

Planeforger

Whats so broken with the translation? The EE fixed this pretty much so the voice and writing are a perfect. Not to mention everything about story,voice,character, and writing is a million times better then in fallout 3.

Oh, I haven't actually played through it entirely with the EE patch on - I just meant that even in the original version, while the translation was a bit broken at times, it still sounded far better than anything in Fallout 3.

I'm guessing that the EE is even better, but there are still a few strange convos, like the innkeeper in Act 1..

illogical conversations and nonsensical oneliner FILLED the entire game. for example ( i don't really have the transcript here so bear with me )

A: i want to talk. ( no, there's no exposition, situation or anything. he wants to talk in the middle of the street and that's it )

B: go ahead.

A: i warn you this could be long

B: just shoot

A: (Geralt showing us some of his philosophical epiphany)

just like that. once every 10 minutes i felt like i'm using a badly programmed answering machine. I'm not saying Fallout 3's writing is fantastic, but the presentation definitely MADE SENSE to me.

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Whats so broken with the translation? The EE fixed this pretty much so the voice and writing are a perfect. Not to mention everything about story,voice,character, and writing is a million times better then in fallout 3.

Jinroh_basic

Oh, I haven't actually played through it entirely with the EE patch on - I just meant that even in the original version, while the translation was a bit broken at times, it still sounded far better than anything in Fallout 3.

I'm guessing that the EE is even better, but there are still a few strange convos, like the innkeeper in Act 1..

illogical conversations and nonsensical oneliner FILLED the entire game. for example ( i don't really have the transcript here so bear with me )

A: i want to talk. ( no, there's no exposition, situation or anything. he wants to talk in the middle of the street and that's it )

B: go ahead.

A: i warn you this could be long

B: just shoot

A: (Geralt showing us some of his philosophical epiphany)

just like that. once every 10 minutes i felt like i'm using a badly programmed answering machine. I'm not saying Fallout 3's writing is fantastic, but the presentation definitely MADE SENSE to me.

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Whats so broken with the translation? The EE fixed this pretty much so the voice and writing are a perfect. Not to mention everything about story,voice,character, and writing is a million times better then in fallout 3.

Jinroh_basic

Oh, I haven't actually played through it entirely with the EE patch on - I just meant that even in the original version, while the translation was a bit broken at times, it still sounded far better than anything in Fallout 3.

I'm guessing that the EE is even better, but there are still a few strange convos, like the innkeeper in Act 1..

illogical conversations and nonsensical oneliner FILLED the entire game. for example ( i don't really have the transcript here so bear with me )

A: i want to talk. ( no, there's no exposition, situation or anything. he wants to talk in the middle of the street and that's it )

B: go ahead.

A: i warn you this could be long

B: just shoot

A: (Geralt showing us some of his philosophical epiphany)

just like that. once every 10 minutes i felt like i'm using a badly programmed answering machine. I'm not saying Fallout 3's writing is fantastic, but the presentation definitely MADE SENSE to me.

And whats so bad aboout that?

I have a particularly nooby question. In Oblivion, if you accidentally hit a guard or something you could apologize and they'd stop attacking.

How do you do this In Fallout 3?

thanks