Fallout 3-Console port? OUTRAGE

This little tidbit is for my fellow PC gamers only. All you little console rookies jump to a different topic, because this may upset you and Im not trying to flame anyone.....but Bethesda.Could someone please explain to me how the third(or 4th i guess) installment of the legendary Fallout series will be available on PS3 and X-box 360? Is this game being developed for consoles then ported to PC? Either way...this is bullshyt. Im sick and tired of would-be great games being dumbed down to cater to shallow console kiddies. Fallout 3 has been a damn decade in the making, a decade!!! All this time I've been waiting for a f***ing port!!!! OUTRAGE! Shame on you Bethesda. You've let us all down. I'll never pick up FO3. Not even if its GOTY for 5 years straight. If you call yourself a gamer, purchasing this game is sacrelige. Sickend.

PLEASE correct me if Im wrong. Ive just been waiting for this since I was 21 years old and now I hears its a port???OMG

It's not a port. It's being developed for the PC and XBox 360 simultaneously. They'll be the same game.

That makes it not a port but instead amultiplatform title like Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, TES4: Oblivion, Shadowrun, and several other underwhelming releases.

I think you should be more outraged about what they're doing to the actual gameplay though, rather than the fact that it's going to be available on the 360. By their description it wont much resemble Fallout.

It's not a port. It's being developed for the PC and XBox 360 simultaneously. They'll be the same game.

That makes it not a port but instead amultiplatform title like Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, TES4: Oblivion, Shadowrun, and several other underwhelming releases.

I think you should be more outraged about what they're doing to the actual gameplay though, rather than the fact that it's going to be available on the 360. By their description it wont much resemble Fallout.

sircyrus

Yep an FPS FTL.

Just so you know though, the 360 is the lead platform for the game. Further justifying that fallout 3 will just be horrible in comparison to the first 2.

Well the in big world of buisness, the truth is guys, no one gives 2 sh%ts about what "you, the small fan base, enjoy". Their job is to make the game appeal to as many people as possible *cough*OBLIVION*cough*. The people who played Fallout are probably doing other things now, and the 13 year old market is huge, so it would be wise to build this game for them to get $$$. It's buisness, and EVERYONE of you guys would do the same thing if you were in their shoes.LordFarquad

Actually a fanbase pretty much makes up about 80% of any companies sales.

Oblivion was successful because although they completely alienated their fanbase t hey were successfully able to create a new one among casual console players. Not only that but a majority of their previous fanbase bought the game thinking that it would indeed be like morrowind.

Well the in big world of buisness, the truth is guys, no one gives 2 sh%ts about what "you, the small fan base, enjoy". Their job is to make the game appeal to as many people as possible *cough*OBLIVION*cough*. The people who played Fallout are probably doing other things now, and the 13 year old market is huge, so it would be wise to build this game for them to get $$$. It's buisness, and EVERYONE of you guys would do the same thing if you were in their shoes.LordFarquad

This little tidbit is for my fellow PC gamers only. All you little console rookies jump to a different topic, because this may upset you and Im not trying to flame anyone.....but Bethesda.Could someone please explain to me how the third(or 4th i guess) installment of the legendary Fallout series will be available on PS3 and X-box 360? Is this game being developed for consoles then ported to PC? Either way...this is bullshyt. Im sick and tired of would-be great games being dumbed down to cater to shallow console kiddies. Fallout 3 has been a damn decade in the making, a decade!!! All this time I've been waiting for a f***ing port!!!! OUTRAGE! Shame on you Bethesda. You've let us all down. I'll never pick up FO3. Not even if its GOTY for 5 years straight. If you call yourself a gamer, purchasing this game is sacrelige. Sickend.

PLEASE correct me if Im wrong. Ive just been waiting for this since I was 21 years old and now I hears its a port???OMG

bmorgan303

What do you expect of Bethesda? Oblivion was a dumbed game that you really couldnt even qualify as a rpg..

I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.cametall

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

[QUOTE="cametall"]I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.onemic

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger.

Exclusive to PC was a fine thing...back in 1998. these days a game can cost over 20 million bucks to make. If you were a business, would you only want to sell your 20 million dollar product to a small demographic? No.DarKre

oblivon wasn't an rpg and the same goes for fallout probably,as most of you have already noted.Inde developers are our only hope nowadays

the only good thing with the increase in multi platform games is that we get some really fun games like DMC.but there is a price

[QUOTE="onemic"]

[QUOTE="cametall"]I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.Deihmos

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger.

"Could play games but not anymore?" What the hell does that mean? Last time I checked my 5 year-old rig can still play loads of games.

Were you even a PC gamer back in 1997-1998? The hardware game certainly existed at that time.

bethesda wants cash...=[SOTE

[QUOTE="LordFarquad"]Well the in big world of buisness, the truth is guys, no one gives 2 sh%ts about what "you, the small fan base, enjoy". Their job is to make the game appeal to as many people as possible *cough*OBLIVION*cough*. The people who played Fallout are probably doing other things now, and the 13 year old market is huge, so it would be wise to build this game for them to get $$$. It's buisness, and EVERYONE of you guys would do the same thing if you were in their shoes.sircyrus

Exclusive to PC was a fine thing...back in 1998. these days a game can cost over 20 million bucks to make. If you were a business, would you only want to sell your 20 million dollar product to a small demographic? No.DarKre

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="onemic"]

[QUOTE="cametall"]I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.Erlkoenig

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger.

"Could play games but not anymore?" What the hell does that mean? Last time I checked my 5 year-old rig can still play loads of games.

Were you even a PC gamer back in 1997-1998? The hardware game certainly existed at that time.

hmm I meant back then any old PC could play games. Try buying a cheap dell computer and being able to install Battlefield 2 or many of the games out today.

I remember my friend owned an emachine back then and we played Unreal Tournament, AOE II and many titles without issues and we all had onboard video. Maybe it's intel fault by not having better onboard video cards....I don't know. As a result the audience was much larger since you did not need an expensive video card to play games. That is all i meant.

[QUOTE="DarKre"]Exclusive to PC was a fine thing...back in 1998. these days a game can cost over 20 million bucks to make. If you were a business, would you only want to sell your 20 million dollar product to a small demographic? No.Erlkoenig

The demographic is not small. Why don't you take a look at the article about heavy gamers on the front page?

QFT

PC Gamers certainly aren't a small demographic...

Fallout anf Fallout 2 were the best ones, after than i thought fallout was done for. I hope that Bethesda try to make the game simular to the first two, and not try and make the completly different. I know it will have first person and third person views. But im more concerned about the game play and freedom when it comes to the quests.

You're still being vague by saying any old PC could play games. The cheapest Dell you can get today could play games. I have owned 5 different computers since 1993 and I can tell you that the prices of PCs capable of playing cutting edge games have never been low. Back in 1997-1998 you need those Voodoos and Savage cards to run many top of the line 3D games.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger. Deihmos

...Or slap a well-known name on their game (ie: Fallout 3).

Fallout anf Fallout 2 were the best ones, after than i thought fallout was done for. I hope that Bethesda try to make the game simular to the first two, and not try and make the completly different. I know it will have first person and third person views. But im more concerned about the game play and freedom when it comes to the quests.

Dead_Dez

From what I have seen it looks like Oblivion in Fallout..

If Bethesda is smart (it's debatable so far) they'll have two different development teams working on seperate interfaces, one for PC, the other for the x circle (360? get it?). I read that's how they developed Bioshock, so each version of that game will feel like it was made for that system, pc.koza_76

That's exactly what they are doing.

Am I outraged that Fallout 3 will be cross-platform? Of course not, that's to be expected in this day and age. I am outraged, however,at the idiocy of some PC users. Listen to yourself... you'recompletely writing off a game that's more than a year away from being released simply because you don't like what the developer did with analmost completely unrelated franchise. this is the first that anyone's seen of the game, and nobody's been particularly thorough in explaining how it plays, yet you've already sworn to never play it under any circumstances?

I personally find it hilarious when people complain about Oblivion being "Morrowind dumbed down for the 'console kiddies," all while conveniently ignoring the fact that Morrowind itself was a cross-platform release. I also find it funny that Bethesda gets villified for Oblivion, yet Warren Spector (the man behind both DX: Invisile War and Thief: Deadly Shadows) is still worshipped like a god by the majority of PC gamers. Why does fellow Ion Storm leader John Romero not get the same treatment for his work on Doom, Quake, and other Id titles rather than being laughed at for Daikatana? Where does the hate from Bethseda spring from? the Pirates of the Carribean and Star Trek titles that they published but did not develop?

I'm first to admit I'm a console gamer before a PC gamer, I've logged more hours playing my NES, N64, Gamecube, and Xbox than I could ever hope to match with my time playing PC games, butI've logged considerable hours playing the games widely considered to be the best for the PC, Fallout 1 and 2 especially. Not only am I outraged by the open hypocrisy of alot of PC gamers as I've outlined above, I'm also outraged by the horrendous elitism targeted at console gamers. Consoles have their own lists of great games, most, if not all,of which are better than the vast majority of PC games. What most elitists fail to realize is that there are plenty of casual PC gamers as well, how else do you explain all the Hoyle games out there?

[QUOTE="Erlkoenig"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="onemic"]

[QUOTE="cametall"]I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.Deihmos

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger.

"Could play games but not anymore?" What the hell does that mean? Last time I checked my 5 year-old rig can still play loads of games.

Were you even a PC gamer back in 1997-1998? The hardware game certainly existed at that time.

hmm I meant back then any old PC could play games. Try buying a cheap dell computer and being able to install Battlefield 2 or many of the games out today.

I remember my friend owned an emachine back then and we played Unreal Tournament, AOE II and many titles without issues and we all had onboard video. Maybe it's intel fault by not having better onboard video cards....I don't know. As a result the audience was much larger since you did not need an expensive video card to play games. That is all i meant.

Were you playing UT in software mode? Yuck. I'm sorry but I'd rather we didn't go back to the days of non-3d accelerated graphics.

Sure ports can be bad, but there are chances of good. *Thinks of Chronicle of Riddick: EFBB*

Let's not be a critic until we've played the game.

[QUOTE="evilbanshee"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="Erlkoenig"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="onemic"]

[QUOTE="cametall"]I understand why the are placing it on consoles (larger audience = more money) but I really do hope it is designed for the PC first. But I doubt this, in the Game Informer issue featuring Fallout 3 you can see in a screen shot of the Pip Boy two symbols that resemble the "L" trigger and "R" trigger of the 360.magicalclick

Like I said before, the lead platform is the 360.

I can see why the 360 is the lead platform. PC gaming has changed so much when compared to 10 years ago. Back then anyone with a PC could play games but not anymore. It was not as complicated back then and the audience was much larger.

"Could play games but not anymore?" What the hell does that mean? Last time I checked my 5 year-old rig can still play loads of games.

Were you even a PC gamer back in 1997-1998? The hardware game certainly existed at that time.

hmm I meant back then any old PC could play games. Try buying a cheap dell computer and being able to install Battlefield 2 or many of the games out today.

I remember my friend owned an emachine back then and we played Unreal Tournament, AOE II and many titles without issues and we all had onboard video. Maybe it's intel fault by not having better onboard video cards....I don't know. As a result the audience was much larger since you did not need an expensive video card to play games. That is all i meant.

Were you playing UT in software mode? Yuck. I'm sorry but I'd rather we didn't go back to the days of non-3d accelerated graphics.

Yeah, if you buy dell, just spend 100 or 200 bucks for a better video card, that's it. Nothing complicated. Just don't settle for the cheapest model and you are good to go. Of course if you want cutting edge gamming, you have to do some homework. But shrinking of PC gamming concerns me. PC need some moreshooter exclusives and stay exclusive.

Why does it need exclusives?

This little tidbit is for my fellow PC gamers only. All you little console rookies jump to a different topic, because this may upset you and Im not trying to flame anyone.....but Bethesda.Could someone please explain to me how the third(or 4th i guess) installment of the legendary Fallout series will be available on PS3 and X-box 360? Is this game being developed for consoles then ported to PC? Either way...this is bullshyt. Im sick and tired of would-be great games being dumbed down to cater to shallow console kiddies. Fallout 3 has been a damn decade in the making, a decade!!! All this time I've been waiting for a f***ing port!!!! OUTRAGE! Shame on you Bethesda. You've let us all down. I'll never pick up FO3. Not even if its GOTY for 5 years straight. If you call yourself a gamer, purchasing this game is sacrelige. Sickend.

PLEASE correct me if Im wrong. Ive just been waiting for this since I was 21 years old and now I hears its a port???OMG

bmorgan303

1 thing i hate in ports is that they coming unoptimised