Fallout: New Vegas running horrible on my moster of a computer

The game autodetected my settings at high, and it was working but i would occationally get some lag, but as soon as there are a few people trying to kill me, forget about it screen tearing, horrible performance and downright unplayable. My machine has a windows performance rating of 5.7 and the game reccomended is 4.8. I can play farcry 2 with full everything and not a single problem.

my specs: Intel quad core 2.15 ghz, Vista 64bit (sucks i know), 6gigs of ram and ATI mobility Radeon HD 4650 (1 gig)

i shouldnt have a problem running this game! my computer runs fallout 3 full specs like nothing....any advice would be greatly appreciated

Monster? 4650... slow quad core? Okay govnah.

PS Vista patched is pretty much Windows 7, same driver base, so it doesn't suck more or less than 7. Maybe a teeny bit slower here and there.

Install this.

Also if you're running at Ultra and getting micro-stutter when turning, try dropping water reflection quality to medium. High seems buggy.

Are you trolling? You have have a mobile 4650 according to your post which is quite weak.

on my god i hate you people. theres a guy with an anime avatar, a guy with a cat avatar, and a guy who calls himself a pokemon name. please go eat a pound of salt each of you, and stop tryin to salt me

warhammer94960

on my god i hate you people. theres a guy with an anime avatar, a guy with a cat avatar, and a guy who calls himself a pokemon name. please go eat a pound of salt each of you, and stop tryin to salt me

warhammer94960

You should know* that New Vegas is extremely buggy and has a lot of game and performance issues. Websites and forums were up in a rage the first week or so with everyone complaining about how bad it runs.

*Unless you pirated it of course.

on my god i hate you people. theres a guy with an anime avatar, a guy with a cat avatar, and a guy who calls himself a pokemon name. please go eat a pound of salt each of you, and stop tryin to salt me

warhammer94960

Settle, children. This guy isn't trolling.

The problem comes from the game emulating dx9 through dx10 or 11, or at least that's what I gather from what I've read. Until I added the d3d9 file listed above, the game was unreasonably slow for me too.

[QUOTE="warhammer94960"]

on my god i hate you people. theres a guy with an anime avatar, a guy with a cat avatar, and a guy who calls himself a pokemon name. please go eat a pound of salt each of you, and stop tryin to salt me

jedinat

It made me think of salting the snail from its always sunny in philadelphia, which is quite hilarious.

Install this.

Also if you're running at Ultra and getting micro-stutter when turning, try dropping water reflection quality to medium. High seems buggy.

Velocitas8

This is a great quick fix, I now run it on Ultra with no problems- so smooth. Before I was struggling to get a decent framerate on medium!

Are you trolling? You have have a mobile 4650 according to your post which is quite weak.

sammysalsa

[QUOTE="sammysalsa"]

Are you trolling? You have have a mobile 4650 according to your post which is quite weak.

dos4gw82

oh please, do go on.

The game autodetected my settings at high, and it was working but i would occationally get some lag, but as soon as there are a few people trying to kill me, forget about it screen tearing, horrible performance and downright unplayable. My machine has a windows performance rating of 5.7 and the game reccomended is 4.8. I can play farcry 2 with full everything and not a single problem.

my specs: Intel quad core 2.15 ghz, Vista 64bit (sucks i know), 6gigs of ram and ATI mobility Radeon HD 4650 (1 gig)

i shouldnt have a problem running this game! my computer runs fallout 3 full specs like nothing....any advice would be greatly appreciated

warhammer94960

Install this.

Also if you're running at Ultra and getting micro-stutter when turning, try dropping water reflection quality to medium. High seems buggy.

Velocitas8

You should know* that New Vegas is extremely buggy and has a lot of game and performance issues. Websites and forums were up in a rage the first week or so with everyone complaining about how bad it runs.

ChubbyGuy40

Having said that, I've been able to run the game on Ultra settings on my laptop since day one without any problems, stuttering or lag (and I haven't downloaded any add-ons or patches, either). So it's entirely possible for the game to run smoothly...on the right hardware, I guess.

Too weak to play a game that runs on a 4 year old engine?dos4gw82

I don't think you appreciate how weak the Radeon Mobility 4650 actually is. Looking at the various benchmarks it looks to me as if the mobility 4650 is actually WORSE than the GPU you find in the 360/PS3 :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

To play F NV on that card you need to have all the settings on as low as they can go and a res lower than 1280 x 720 then, just then you might get playable framerates in the low 20's.

[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]Too weak to play a game that runs on a 4 year old engine?charmingcharlie

I don't think you appreciate how weak the Radeon Mobility 4650 actually is. Looking at the various benchmarks it looks to me as if the mobility 4650 is actually WORSE than the GPU you find in the 360/PS3 :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

To play F NV on that card you need to have all the settings on as low as they can go and a res lower than 1280 x 720 then, just then you might get playable framerates in the low 20's.

Really.

While Fallout: NV is almost certainly more demanding than Oblivion, I don't believe that the Mobility 4650 would be too weak to play the game while still looking relatively good. The minimum graphics requirements for the game are either a Geforce 6 series or an ATI 1300XT, which are a bit further down the list that you provided. Also, the game detected his settings for High.

From what I've seen, the Mobility 4650 seems to be a fairly competent mobile graphics chip, though it is by no means a "monster" as the TC suggested. Videos and charts can only tell us so much, though, and I'd be interested in hearing if the TC experienced an improvement in performance after applying the d3d9 file as suggested.

LOL!!!! Monster rig, wth a mobile video card, this dude calls his laptop a monster rig. You do know that 4650m mobile isnt even a true ATI 4650 >? its alot slower. Well anyways ty lowering the settings down.

The game autodetected my settings at high, and it was working but i would occationally get some lag, but as soon as there are a few people trying to kill me, forget about it screen tearing, horrible performance and downright unplayable. My machine has a windows performance rating of 5.7 and the game reccomended is 4.8. I can play farcry 2 with full everything and not a single problem.

my specs: Intel quad core 2.15 ghz, Vista 64bit (sucks i know), 6gigs of ram and ATI mobility Radeon HD 4650 (1 gig)

i shouldnt have a problem running this game! my computer runs fallout 3 full specs like nothing....any advice would be greatly appreciated

warhammer94960

Here you go:

Online troll anger management.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/10/troll-anger-management/

it might be time for a new pc? youll get over it.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

Install this.

Also if you're running at Ultra and getting micro-stutter when turning, try dropping water reflection quality to medium. High seems buggy.

29121994

I don't believe that the Mobility 4650 would be too weak to play the game while still looking relatively good. The minimum graphics requirements for the game are either a Geforce 6 series or an ATI 1300XT, which are a bit further down the list that you provided. Also, the game detected his settings for High.dos4gw82

Yeah you can believe all the fairy tales you like it doesn't change the fact that the mobility 4650 is weaker than the GPU's you find in the xbox and PS3 which means you should have the game on very low settings and on a resolution below 1280 x 720. The minimum requirements is usually to play the game at just 640 x 480 with everything set to low. As for the game detecting and putting it on high ...... you do realise that automatic detection of settings is a load of rubbish which is why we have to spend time figuring out the best settings for your individual machines.

From what I've seen, the Mobility 4650 seems to be a fairly competent mobile graphics chip, though it is by no means a "monster" as the TC suggested. Videos and charts can only tell us so much, though, and I'd be interested in hearing if the TC experienced an improvement in performance after applying the d3d9 file as suggested.dos4gw82

Yeah well from what I have seen from the benchmarks carried out by semi competent people the 4650 is not a fairly competent graphics chip. I generally do not consider rubbish from youtube as proof. I have seen ridiculous claims like "omgz I can so like run GTA 4 on max at 1080p on my 8500gt and pentium 4 PC here is the video" from the youtuber's.

[QUOTE="dos4gw82"]I don't believe that the Mobility 4650 would be too weak to play the game while still looking relatively good. The minimum graphics requirements for the game are either a Geforce 6 series or an ATI 1300XT, which are a bit further down the list that you provided. Also, the game detected his settings for High.charmingcharlie

Yeah you can believe all the fairy tales you like it doesn't change the fact that the mobility 4650 is weaker than the GPU's you find in the xbox and PS3 which means you should have the game on very low settings and on a resolution below 1280 x 720. The minimum requirements is usually to play the game at just 640 x 480 with everything set to low. As for the game detecting and putting it on high ...... you do realise that automatic detection of settings is a load of rubbish which is why we have to spend time figuring out the best settings for your individual machines.

From what I've seen, the Mobility 4650 seems to be a fairly competent mobile graphics chip, though it is by no means a "monster" as the TC suggested. Videos and charts can only tell us so much, though, and I'd be interested in hearing if the TC experienced an improvement in performance after applying the d3d9 file as suggested.dos4gw82

Yeah well from what I have seen from the benchmarks carried out by semi competent people the 4650 is not a fairly competent graphics chip. I generally do not consider rubbish from youtube as proof. I have seen ridiculous claims like "omgz I can so like run GTA 4 on max at 1080p on my 8500gt and pentium 4 PC here is the video" from the youtuber's.

And here are the specifications for the HD4650.

The 4650 (mobility version as well) has 514 million transistors where as the Xenos only has 337 million. If you compare the rest of the specifications, it will still point to the same conclusion: it's more powerful.

And if it has more power than the 360 GPU, it is also better than the PS3 GPU considering the fact that it's video card is weaker than the Xenos.

So yeah, you're wrong.

The latest patch is up on Steam. :)

Oh great so now we are using wikipedia as proof :roll: I really do not care to take this argument further, if you honestly believe that the 4650 is a capable card then there is just no arguing against that kind of thinking. If you check this link :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=Mobility+Radeon+HD+4650

That is a chart ranking based on thousands of performance tests (not just some text anyone can edit on a wiki page). It clearly shows that the mobility 4650 is clearly weaker than the eqiuvalent gpu in the 360 (roughly an x1900xt) and the GPU in the PS3 (roughly a 7800gtx).

At the end of the day I know I am facing a losing battle, those that think the 4650 is a "capable" gaming card will not be convinced no matter what proof is shown. Now I am not saying that the 4650 cannot run Fallout NV I am just saying that you should be running Fallout NV on the lowest settings possible if you want decent framerates out of a machine equipped with a mobility 4650.

Everyone here knows Fo NV has problems, why are you guys giving him crap about it? Pc gamers on these forums really have a attitude problem.

Oh great so now we are using wikipedia as proof :roll: I really do not care to take this argument further, if you honestly believe that the 4650 is a capable card then there is just no arguing against that kind of thinking. If you check this link :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=Mobility+Radeon+HD+4650

That is a chart ranking based on thousands of performance tests (not just some text anyone can edit on a wiki page). It clearly shows that the mobility 4650 is clearly weaker than the eqiuvalent gpu in the 360 (roughly an x1900xt) and the GPU in the PS3 (roughly a 7800gtx).

At the end of the day I know I am facing a losing battle, those that think the 4650 is a "capable" gaming card will not be convinced no matter what proof is shown. Now I am not saying that the 4650 cannot run Fallout NV I am just saying that you should be running Fallout NV on the lowest settings possible if you want decent framerates out of a machine equipped with a mobility 4650.

charmingcharlie

Surelly the 4650 is not a monster like TC said but still its a capable card for running less demanding and older games at mostly high settings

For once it features 320steam processors ( which is probably the main factor that determine a Gpu performance ) which is much much much better of what the 360 Gpu features

Notebookcheck

Performance wise its a bit slower than a desktop 4650 ( same features slightly lower clocks ). Should be enough for mix of medium/high settings

Everyone here knows Fo NV has problems, why are you guys giving him crap about it? Pc gamers on these forums really have a attitude problem.

Advid-Gamer

I haven't had any major problems and certainly no more than I've had with any other game so, no, I don't "know" that.

Surelly the 4650 is not a monster like TC said but still its a capable card for running less demanding and older games at mostly high settingsadamosmaki

I am not arguing it isn't capable of running less demanding or older games at mostly high. However we are talking about Fallout NV here which was released less than 2 weeks ago. I am quite happy to say that the card would run Fallout NV at low/medium at a res of 1280 x 720 and he will get reasonable framerates. I get the feeling though the TC isn't running at those settings and is trying to max everything out with 8 x AA at a res above 1280 x 720. In short his eyes are too big for his card.

Oh great so now we are using wikipedia as proof :roll: I really do not care to take this argument further, if you honestly believe that the 4650 is a capable card then there is just no arguing against that kind of thinking. If you check this link :-

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=Mobility+Radeon+HD+4650

That is a chart ranking based on thousands of performance tests (not just some text anyone can edit on a wiki page). It clearly shows that the mobility 4650 is clearly weaker than the eqiuvalent gpu in the 360 (roughly an x1900xt) and the GPU in the PS3 (roughly a 7800gtx).

At the end of the day I know I am facing a losing battle, those that think the 4650 is a "capable" gaming card will not be convinced no matter what proof is shown. Now I am not saying that the 4650 cannot run Fallout NV I am just saying that you should be running Fallout NV on the lowest settings possible if you want decent framerates out of a machine equipped with a mobility 4650.

charmingcharlie

With the new patch, it says that it fixed "severe performance issues with DirectX". Do we still need to use the d3d9.dll? FPS_Gamer123

I took it out and it seems to be running fine. Then again, I was never having the issues that some people were having so your mileage may vary.

[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]With the new patch, it says that it fixed "severe performance issues with DirectX". Do we still need to use the d3d9.dll? -wildflower-

I took it out and it seems to be running fine. Then again, I was never having the issues that some people were having so your mileage may vary.

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]Surelly the 4650 is not a monster like TC said but still its a capable card for running less demanding and older games at mostly high settingscharmingcharlie

I am not arguing it isn't capable of running less demanding or older games at mostly high. However we are talking about Fallout NV here which was released less than 2 weeks ago. I am quite happy to say that the card would run Fallout NV at low/medium at a res of 1280 x 720 and he will get reasonable framerates. I get the feeling though the TC isn't running at those settings and is trying to max everything out with 8 x AA at a res above 1280 x 720. In short his eyes are too big for his card.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Everyone here knows Fo NV has problems, why are you guys giving him crap about it? Pc gamers on these forums really have a attitude problem.

-wildflower-

I haven't had any major problems and certainly no more than I've had with any other game so, no, I don't "know" that.

:roll: The game was docked for bugs, bugs and performance issues were talked about in the NV sticky more then the actual game :? So saying that you didnt "know" is BS, or you have been under a rock.

[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]With the new patch, it says that it fixed "severe performance issues with DirectX". Do we still need to use the d3d9.dll? -wildflower-

I took it out and it seems to be running fine. Then again, I was never having the issues that some people were having so your mileage may vary.

I did have a problem with Fallout NV performance when the game first came out (quadcore + GTX260) the D3D.dll fixed most of the stuttering and made it playable. I have just downloaded the patch and removed the D3D.dll, performance wise it feels a hell of a lot better about the same as if you still had the D3D.dll installed. So I would say have a go without the D3D.dll if performance isn't great then put the dll back but I think you might be pleasently surprised.

I am surprised about the size of the patch though, only 15mbs I was beginning to think we would get a 1.5gb patch :P

:roll: The game was docked for bugs, bugs and performance issues were talked about in the NV sticky more then the actual game :? So saying that you didnt "know" is BS, or you have been under a rock.

Advid-Gamer

No, all I can "know" for sure is what I've personally experienced and I haven't experienced any major problems. What other people say is simply hearsay and conjecture especially when it runs contrary to my own experience. Sorry, but my personal experience trumps anonymous posters on a forum and the opinions of the so-called professional reviewers.

With that said, the game had some minor bugs for sure but most of those were also present in FO:3. Funny how that game wasn't docked for all of its bugs.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] :roll: The game was docked for bugs, bugs and performance issues were talked about in the NV sticky more then the actual game :? So saying that you didnt "know" is BS, or you have been under a rock.

-wildflower-

No, all I can "know" for sure is what I've personally experienced and I haven't experienced any major problems. What other people say is simply hearsay and conjecture especially when it runs contrary to my own experience. Sorry, but my personal experience trumps anonymous posters on a forum and the opinions of the so-called professional reviewers.

With that said, the game had some minor bugs for sure but most of those were also present in FO:3. Funny how that game wasn't docked for all of its bugs.

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Are you trolling? You have have a mobile 4650 according to your post which is quite weak.

dos4gw82

"Fallout: New Vegas running horrible on my moster of a computer" - this is the title, hence im pointing out that the 4650 is hardly a monster which is why the TC shouldnt be expecting to max F: NV. Of course the game should i run, i would expect a mix of settings around medium.

[QUOTE="-wildflower-"]

[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]With the new patch, it says that it fixed "severe performance issues with DirectX". Do we still need to use the d3d9.dll? FPS_Gamer123

I took it out and it seems to be running fine. Then again, I was never having the issues that some people were having so your mileage may vary.