Far Cry 2 (and ubi's last chance at redemption imo)

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#1 Defalen
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First off, heres a video of the DESIGN TEAM IN AFRIcA WORKING TO MAKE A GAME

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40900.html

I want to know if you could have it in your heart to take this game illegally from some **** download site. I know I couldn't, even if it is an UBI game.

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#2 BeavermanA
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Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour.
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#4 GodLovesDead
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I'm an adament believer in "Trying before buying". If there's a demo, I'll try that, and if there isn't - there's always other ways. I'm not made of money and I can't afford to buy games that I don't support 100%. There's still purchases I wish I could have outright taken back.
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#5 SavageM2
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I wonder how much money they are spending on making this game?
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#6 Doom_HellKnight
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Well I've already preordered the collector's edition, which should arrive here the day of the game's release in Europe.
So no, I won't be "acquiring" it first.
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#7 fatshodan
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I agree, this is their last chance, but I have faith in the team. Sure, they have released some real stinkers, but this is the team behind Sands of Time and Splinter Cell. At their worst, yeah, they're amongst the worst, but at their best they are amongst the very best.

If a company has produced greatness, it can produce greatness. I am more than willing to give them to benefit of the doubt - one more time. I'll be buying it on day one.

I don't advocate try before you buy piracy, if only because it fudges the numbers in a way that hurts everyone. Imagine if 10% of pirates were just try before you buy types. Even if they all went and bought it afterwards, those picacy figures are still there, and companies are clearly keeping a close eye on them. I can't even try to speculate on the actual numbers, but whether it's 10% or 1%, it's not helping.

I appreciate and understand all the pro arguments in favour of try before you buy, regardless of the methods involved, so don't bother to explain the positives - I already know. I also already know that most or all games should have demos made available, and it's unfair of them to try and force players to buy blind, but perceived piracy is no different from actual piracy, I would imagine, as far as the impact on the industry goes, because developers don't seem to look at their bottom line as much as what their bottom line wouldbe if there weren't quite so many pirates.

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#8 Toriko42
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I know it'll be good so I'll be getting it for 360 eventually, when though who knows. Maybe launch maybe later. Depends on if I want Fable 2 or Far Cry 2
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#9 nutcrackr
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Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour. BeavermanA

Please tell me where you buy cars for $40-50 and I'll skip the test drive.

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[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour. nutcrackr

Please tell me where you buy cars for $40-50 and I'll skip the test drive.

i 'test drive' food before i purchase them. if it was delicious, i pay for them, but if i didn't like it much, i don't pay. i've been arrested several times for that. stupid restaurant owners. :evil:

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#12 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]

[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour. JnWycliffe

Please tell me where you buy cars for $40-50 and I'll skip the test drive.

i 'test drive' food before i purchase them. if it was delicious, i pay for them, but if i didn't like it much, i don't pay. i've been arrested several times for that. stupid restaurant owners. :evil:

See, this is why I only eat at buffets :P
Which is more of a "You've already bought everything, so try whatever you want" except at a ridiculously low price :3

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#13 bignice12
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Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour. BeavermanA

Thats why you look for reviews and several opinion from people that played the game and you make a decision based off what you read if the game is worth your money. You pirates are really hurting yourselves in the long run.

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#14 nutcrackr
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Even if you guys that "acquire" it end up buying it, don't think for a second that Ubisoft, EA and the other publishers/developers won't use those torrent download counts against us in the future like they already do now. Do you guys really want more delayed releases and possibly no releases at all?
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Even if you guys that "acquire" it end up buying it, don't think for a second that Ubisoft, EA and the other publishers/developers won't use those torrent download counts against us in the future like they already do now. Do you guys really want more delayed releases and possibly no releases at all?nutcrackr

I don't believe developers can gain an accurate figure of lost sales from torrent downloads. There's too many variables for it to be used anything other than an indicator if a game is being pirated or not. They are smarter than that. They likely just pull out that information so they have more of an excuse to pull out of the PC market so everyone will be quick to blame piracy and not the shortcomings of the developers themselves.

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#16 DanielDust
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I'll get FarCy 2, but it's not their last chance for me, not even HAWX is the last chance, Heroes of Might and Magic VI will be, if they make it, and I hope they will.
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Even if you guys that "acquire" it end up buying it, don't think for a second that Ubisoft, EA and the other publishers/developers won't use those torrent download counts against us in the future like they already do now. Do you guys really want more delayed releases and possibly no releases at all?nutcrackr
Then the dumbasses should release a demo
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#18 BeavermanA
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[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]Of course, I test drive before I buy a car. I'm not going to drop 40-50 bucks on something and find out I don't like it much after an hour. bignice12

Thats why you look for reviews and several opinion from people that played the game and you make a decision based off what you read if the game is worth your money. You pirates are really hurting yourselves in the long run.

I'm a unique individual, just cause 1 person or 10 million other people think it's good, doesn't mean I will. I've lost count of how many games I've dled, played for less than 30 minutes and erased cause I thought they blew, and many of them were big name games that got good reviews. Would not have been happy had I spent money.

Torrents and most other p2p are dumb these days anyway. Haven't used them for a long time. Get everything straight from http without uploading a single byte of the data, they don't monitor that to my knowledge.

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#19 vlin1108
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First off, heres a video of the DESIGN TEAM IN AFRIcA WORKING TO MAKE A GAME

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/40900.html

I want to know if you could have it in your heart to take this game illegally from some **** download site. I know I couldn't, even if it is an UBI game.

Defalen

After seeing the dev team taking a vacation in Africa, I wouldn't dream about pirating it now.

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well i love ubisift hate ea i dont need a test drive when i v seen crysis gameplay videos i hated them(correction i loved the first e3 beta videos i hated the actual videos later, i wanted the beta more odlschool and open ended idea not the actual game) well i lvoe what i see in far cry 2 ubisfot is not ea they spent a load of cash in their games they dont release games jsut like that they spent time in each project, so now i v seen they gone there i know that they will do it right, what i like about gtrailers is their awesome videos, there is a similar video for cod4 that the designers test real firearms that they they designed for the game dpending on their experience so im fine with it so far, let ubi work as ussual!
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#21 shalashaska88
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Here we go again..the biggest Crysis hater is here...

*sigh

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#22 The_Nightingale
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I dont think its Ubisofts last chance at all.

I find it very hard to think of a game they have done that i don't like if not love.

Anyway it will be cool but i never was able to get through Farcry but i will definitely do it before i get this.

I found it very hard to get through the alien part of Crysis but did because the story and the graphical and game-play excellence compelled me to.

And i think this will be a very pleasing game. Hopefully ill have my 4870x2 before i get this.

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#23 thenewau25
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Here we go again..the biggest Crysis hater is here...

*sigh

shalashaska88

if am a hater with crysis 6.5 and warhead 8 then what 1.0 rated reviews are?

am just saying i didnt like what i saw in crysis i did like what i saw in warhead so i like what i see in far cry 2 am gonna like far cry 2 i hate ea low budget i love ubisoft, ohh yeah spent a load of money in games!

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#24 RobertBowen
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Apparently Far Cry 2 will use SecuROM, have limited installs and need internet activation. So I guess I won't be getting this game after all.
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#25 DanielDust
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I doubt Ubisoft will do such a thing with their games, since all their recent games had securom, as well as more than 90% of the recent games. Just because all EA published games have limited installs, it doesn't mean that from all the developers that use securom, Ubisoft will be the only one that uses such limitations. Assassin's Creed had securom, did it have limited installs? no.

Don't get it if you want, but there is no doubt they will not do such a thing.

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#26 couly
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They couldn't release a demo for it, because it's a sandbox game. Just because they went to Africa to record frog sounds doesn't mean it's going to be a great game, granted they deserve applause for all the effort, but at the end of the day, it's all about reviews. PC Gamer UK gave it 94%, so based on this and many more reviews, I'll most likely buy it.
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#27 RobertBowen
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I doubt Ubisoft will do such a thing with their games, since all their recent games had securom, as well as more than 90% of the recent games. Just because all EA published games have limited installs, it doesn't mean that from all the developers that use securom, Ubisoft will be the only one that uses such limitations. Assassin's Creed had securom, did it have limited installs? no.

DanielDust


From what I understand, at the Ubi Shop ealier they posted this under the requirements for the game:



"This video game is protected by the digital rights management software SecuROM which installs additional components required for copy protection on the user's computer and limits the number of installations of the game. During the installation and/or the first launch, an online connection is required to unlock the game."





Now they have changed it to this:



"NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some DVD-RW and virtual drives."



So either they have changed their minds about limited activations, or it was a genuine mistake - or they have decided not to be so public about their planned DRM. Regardless, any game using SecuROM 7.xx is an instant no sale for me, because it didn't just conflict with a DVD-RW drive, it killed one and I had to replace it. So I don't want that malware anywhere near my PC.
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#28 RobertBowen
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Update: the original text is back on the system requirements of the Ubisoft shopping page here. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page.

So SecuROM is installed. The game has limited activations. You need an internet connection for online activation. This is UbiSoft's own shopping site, so if they don't know what's going on with the game, I don't know who does.

No sale for me.

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#29 Treflis
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[QUOTE="shalashaska88"]

Here we go again..the biggest Crysis hater is here...

*sigh

thenewau25

if am a hater with crysis 6.5 and warhead 8 then what 1.0 rated reviews are?

am just saying i didnt like what i saw in crysis i did like what i saw in warhead so i like what i see in far cry 2 am gonna like far cry 2 i hate ea low budget i love ubisoft, ohh yeah spent a load of money in games!

You know, Periods and comma would do wonders on your text.

Just for future reference.

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Update: the original text is back on the system requirements of the Ubisoft shopping page here. Just scroll down to the bottom of the page.

So SecuROM is installed. The game has limited activations. You need an internet connection for online activation. This is UbiSoft's own shopping site, so if they don't know what's going on with the game, I don't know who does.

No sale for me.

RobertBowen

****! I guess I won't be getting it either. Unless, does the Steam version come SecuROM-free?

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My only concern with limited activations is if they will release a patch that removes them after the game is fully cracked. Does that happen to games, because I am sure thats what occured with Supreme Commander?

Other than that I have to say that being unable to find out if you like the product or not in this day in age is a strange statement. I mean you have proffesional reviews, user reviews, gameplay footage, youtube, the forums you can go to your net cafe etc... I find it amazing that with all that information people still state that their is no way they can accuratly gauge if they will like a game or not.

Also people will always have excuses for piracy. If UBI released a demo I bet they would state that the demo was too short, showed of the best part of the game and was in general false advertising.

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#33 Nitrous2O
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FYI:

- You have 5 activations on 3 separate PCs.

- Uninstalling the game "refunds" an activation. This process is called "revoke", so as long as you complete proper uninstall you will be able to install the game an unlimited number of times on 3 systems.

- You can upgrade your computer as many time as you want (using our revoke system)

- Ubisoft is committed to the support of our games, and additional activations can be provided.

- Ubisoft is committed to the long term support of our games: you'll always be able to play Far Cry 2.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1521068375/m/2211062496?r=1241023496#1241023496

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well i love ubisift hate ea i dont need a test drive when i v seen crysis gameplay videos i hated them(correction i loved the first e3 beta videos i hated the actual videos later, i wanted the beta more odlschool and open ended idea not the actual game) well i lvoe what i see in far cry 2 ubisfot is not ea they spent a load of cash in their games they dont release games jsut like that they spent time in each project, so now i v seen they gone there i know that they will do it right, what i like about gtrailers is their awesome videos, there is a similar video for cod4 that the designers test real firearms that they they designed for the game dpending on their experience so im fine with it so far, let ubi work as ussual!thenewau25

So youve just looked at videos for crysis and never played it yourself? I KNEW IT!:lol:

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#35 kozzy1234
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Awesome video, thanks alot for the link. Its very interesting to see them hit up all these spots for sounds and what not.

The team seems very dedicated

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#36 Artosa
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DRM is unnecesary, it does not even stop piracy it just punishes ligitimate buyers
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[QUOTE="thenewau25"]well i love ubisift hate ea i dont need a test drive when i v seen crysis gameplay videos i hated them(correction i loved the first e3 beta videos i hated the actual videos later, i wanted the beta more odlschool and open ended idea not the actual game) well i lvoe what i see in far cry 2 ubisfot is not ea they spent a load of cash in their games they dont release games jsut like that they spent time in each project, so now i v seen they gone there i know that they will do it right, what i like about gtrailers is their awesome videos, there is a similar video for cod4 that the designers test real firearms that they they designed for the game dpending on their experience so im fine with it so far, let ubi work as ussual!kozzy1234

So youve just looked at videos for crysis and never played it yourself? I KNEW IT!:lol:

NO i did look the e3 videos i liked them i looked the ACTUAL gameplay videos and i didnt like them, i played the game and it was as crap it seemed to me in those videos, simple i completed crysis 4 times 6.5 for me 8 for warhead!

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#38 shalashaska88
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="thenewau25"]well i love ubisift hate ea i dont need a test drive when i v seen crysis gameplay videos i hated them(correction i loved the first e3 beta videos i hated the actual videos later, i wanted the beta more odlschool and open ended idea not the actual game) well i lvoe what i see in far cry 2 ubisfot is not ea they spent a load of cash in their games they dont release games jsut like that they spent time in each project, so now i v seen they gone there i know that they will do it right, what i like about gtrailers is their awesome videos, there is a similar video for cod4 that the designers test real firearms that they they designed for the game dpending on their experience so im fine with it so far, let ubi work as ussual!thenewau25

So youve just looked at videos for crysis and never played it yourself? I KNEW IT!:lol:

NO i did look the e3 videos i liked them i looked the ACTUAL gameplay videos and i didnt like them, i played the game and it was as crap it seemed to me in those videos, simple i completed crysis 4 times 6.5 for me 8 for warhead!

You completed Crysis 4 times and you gave it a 6.5? You must really be in denial boy, because no one would bring themselves to replay a game they absolutely abhor!

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#39 thenewau25
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[QUOTE="thenewau25"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="thenewau25"]well i love ubisift hate ea i dont need a test drive when i v seen crysis gameplay videos i hated them(correction i loved the first e3 beta videos i hated the actual videos later, i wanted the beta more odlschool and open ended idea not the actual game) well i lvoe what i see in far cry 2 ubisfot is not ea they spent a load of cash in their games they dont release games jsut like that they spent time in each project, so now i v seen they gone there i know that they will do it right, what i like about gtrailers is their awesome videos, there is a similar video for cod4 that the designers test real firearms that they they designed for the game dpending on their experience so im fine with it so far, let ubi work as ussual!shalashaska88

So youve just looked at videos for crysis and never played it yourself? I KNEW IT!:lol:

NO i did look the e3 videos i liked them i looked the ACTUAL gameplay videos and i didnt like them, i played the game and it was as crap it seemed to me in those videos, simple i completed crysis 4 times 6.5 for me 8 for warhead!

You completed Crysis 4 times and you gave it a 6.5? You must really be in denial boy, because no one would bring themselves to replay a game they absolutely abhor!

again the shooting was crap all the mod and customiztions capability help, and diffirent rig also am downloading maps now!