For RTS games which is better to spend more on?

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#1 clyde46
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Since ill be playing more RTS games then any other. So what would be better of an RTS, a faster CPU or a better graphics card. I.E. would I see better peformance from have an higher spec ITEL CPU instead of a cheaper AMD. Or is a better graphics card the way to go. The card I picked for my build is a XFX 8600GT. Would it be better to spend more on the graphics card, like getting an 8800GT.

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#2 str33tz_ninJa
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Personally i would go with the faster CPU b/c u can tone down the graphics and there usually no tthat good anyway
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#3 strider_ATI
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whatever you do, DON'T buy the 8600 gt. If you want a cheap card, get the 9600 GSO or the 9600 GT if you can. The 8600 GT is bad.
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whatever you do, DON'T buy the 8600 gt. If you want a cheap card, get the 9600 GSO or the 9600 GT if you can. The 8600 GT is bad.strider_ATI
whats wrong the 8600GT? sorry but I'm a pc noob. :P
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#5 RayvinAzn
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] whats wrong the 8600GT? sorry but I'm a pc noob. :P

It's a horribly underpowered and overpriced graphics card. It wasn't even good when it was released, and it's garbage now. As a baseline I'd recommend the Radeon HD4670 for a graphics card, and I'd definitely try to get a high-spec Intel processor. A good balance is key here.
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[QUOTE="strider_ATI"]whatever you do, DON'T buy the 8600 gt. If you want a cheap card, get the 9600 GSO or the 9600 GT if you can. The 8600 GT is bad.clyde46
whats wrong the 8600GT? sorry but I'm a pc noob. :P

yeah really what is wrong with the 8600GT? I had one and I loved it. As in response to your topic, I would go for a better CPU, RTS games are very processor intensive as you always have a lot of action, AI ect. on the screen and you want a processor to handle it all. Like someone has on their sig, "I wouldn't settle for anything less than a Quad"
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Since ill be playing more RTS games then any other. So what would be better of an RTS, a faster CPU or a better graphics card. I.E. would I see better peformance from have an higher spec ITEL CPU instead of a cheaper AMD. Or is a better graphics card the way to go. The card I picked for my build is a XFX 8600GT. Would it be better to spend more on the graphics card, like getting an 8800GT.

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You'd be better to spend it on the higher model card than a 8600GT. The 8880GT is replaced by the 9600GT which is same performance as 8800GT, 9800GT is little better than 8800GT, now though. 8800GT is hard to find. 9600GT is cheapest card that I would drop too in my opinion. Get one of those and try go for a Quad core for RTS that helps.

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#8 RayvinAzn
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You'd be better to spend it on the higher model card than a 8600GT. The 8880GT is replaced by the 9600GT which is same performance as 8800GT, 9800GT is little better than 8800GT, now though. 8800GT is hard to find. 9600GT is cheapest card that I would drop too in my opinion. Get one of those and try go for a Quad core for RTS that helps.

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What? The 9600GT is its own card. It's G92-based, but it is its own card. The 9800GT is the exact same card as the 8800GT performance-wise, although it does support Hybridpower.
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#9 teddyrob
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[QUOTE="teddyrob"]

You'd be better to spend it on the higher model card than a 8600GT. The 8880GT is replaced by the 9600GT which is same performance as 8800GT, 9800GT is little better than 8800GT, now though. 8800GT is hard to find. 9600GT is cheapest card that I would drop too in my opinion. Get one of those and try go for a Quad core for RTS that helps.

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What? The 9600GT is its own card. It's G92-based, but it is its own card. The 9800GT is the exact same card as the 8800GT performance-wise, although it does support Hybridpower.

Of course it is it's own card but yes 9600GT offers the same performance as a 8800GT. I've tested them throughly myself and Tomshardware says the difference is 1 FPS difference. 9600GT better with AA 8800GT better without. I've had both. 9800GT is slightly better than he 8800GT. The 9000 series was brought in to replace the 8000 series because the 9000 series is cheaper to build. 9600GT is simple 3 times better than the 8600GT. You can't compare those 2 in terms of performance. 9600GT is vastly suprior to the 8600GT . 9600GT ~ 8800GT

And don't say just 1 game because I've got lots of benchmarks which show the same.

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What's your budget?About your question,it depends on the game,ie supreme commander is very cpu intensive,while company of heroes isn't.
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#11 clyde46
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My budget is about 500 Pounds, I have a screen, keyboard and mouse already.
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Mobo:MSI P43 Neo3-F Memory:G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) Cpu:E8400 Hard drive:Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3750640AS 750GB Psu:CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Graphics card:Evga 9800gt(free cod5,choose xfx version for free cod4) Case:Cooler Master Centurion 5 Everything comes up to about $650.
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#13 darx55
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$610 after rebates.
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#14 clyde46
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$610 after rebates.darx55
Any chance of those being in UK prices?
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#15 darx55
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[QUOTE="darx55"]$610 after rebates.clyde46
Any chance of those being in UK prices?

Not sure how much it would come up in pounds,just look up the parts in your favorite online store.It probably will be a little over budget,but it's well worth it.
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#16 teddyrob
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My budget is about 500 Pounds, I have a screen, keyboard and mouse already.clyde46

Prices of components have shot up recently. I spent £500 on my computer a while back.

This was best I could do.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

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#17 RayvinAzn
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Of course it is it's own card but yes 9600GT offers the same performance as a 8800GT. I've tested them throughly myself and Tomshardware says the difference is 1 FPS difference. 9600GT better with AA 8800GT better without. I've had both. 9800GT is slightly better than he 8800GT. The 9000 series was brought in to replace the 8000 series because the 9000 series is cheaper to build. teddyrob
I'm not talking about performance, I'm talking about the cards themselves. The 9600GT is a 65nm G94-core GPU clocked at 650MHz with a 1625MHz shader core and 512MB-1GB GDDR3 memory clocked at 900MHz. It features 64 shader processors, 32 TMUs and 16 RBEs. The 8800GT is a 65nm G92-core GPU clocked at 600MHz with a 1500MHz shader clock and 256MB-1GB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 900MHz. It has 112 shader processors, 56 TMUs and 16 RBEs. The 9800GT is a 65nm G92-core GPU clocked at 600Mhz with a 1500MHz shader clock at 512MB-1GB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 900Mhz. It has 112 shader processors, 56TMus and 16 RBEs. 55nm versions are coming but I haven't seen them on the market yet. The 9800GT is not cheaper, faster, or in any other way superior to the 8800GT. It is quite literally the same exact card as the 8800GT. Any difference in the cards can be attributed to clock speed or just general variance and human error. The 9600GT may show superior performance in certain games thanks to a higher pixel fill rate, but by and large the 9800GT/8800GT definitely has the edge.
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#18 SuperGamer911
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On TigerDirect.com, you can get a GeForce 9500 GT for at least 70-80 dollars. I'm pretty sure it's better than the 8600 GT. As for your question, I suggest getting a new video card to have higher FPS.
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On TigerDirect.com, you can get a GeForce 9500 GT for at least 70-80 dollars. I'm pretty sure it's better than the 8600 GT. As for your question, I suggest getting a new video card to have higher FPS.SuperGamer911
In RTS gaming, a powerful GPU and an underpowered (i.e, bottlenecked) CPU does not equal FPS, as it does in many games.