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#1 kuub
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Hi – If anyone could offer any advice, I'd really appreciate it.The problems arose when I plugged my new Hyundai 241D 1920 X 1200 monitor in.The picture quality was great, but when I downloaded and played some 1080p HD video content, the picture breaks into giant pixels and blurs around, before snapping back to being normal.The flow of the video is also a little choppy/stuttery.Had some choppiness when I played Oblivion using the full resolution too.This could be a graphics card issue, but I've got an 8800 GTX, which is supposed to be one of the best you can buy, and capable of this kind of processing.So now I'm wondering if it's either:

a) Not enough power reaching the graphics card

b) My motherboard isn't good enough

c) Something else

I've only had this monitor for a day, and I'm desperately trying to work out if the problem is a fault with the monitor, or a weakness in my system that can be ironed out.Anyway, below is some system info that might help diagnosis.Many thanks for any advice you can offer.

OS NameMicrosoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
System ManufacturerDell Inc.
System ModelDell DXP061
System TypeX86-based PC
ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU6300@ 1.86GHz, 1861 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/DateDell Inc. 2.3.1, 23/03/2007
SMBIOS Version2.3
Windows DirectoryC:Windows
System DirectoryC:Windowssystem32
Boot DeviceDeviceHarddiskVolume3
LocaleUnited Kingdom
Hardware Abstraction LayerVersion = "6.0.6000.16407"
Total Physical Memory2,045.32 MB
Available Physical Memory1.26 GB
Total Virtual Memory4.21 GB
Available Virtual Memory3.50 GB
Page File Space2.29 GB

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#2 Fignewton50
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That Dell didn't come with the GTX, did it? And when you upgraded to the GTX, did you upgrade your PSU? If not, it's likely that you were right on with your #1 guess. Try to find out the specs of your PSU, spefically total watts and number of amps on the 12v rail(s). You can likely find most of that by opening the computer and looking for a sticker on the side of the PSU.
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#3 kuub
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thanks for the feedback, i've taken a photo of the PSU, would you mind telling me if it's underpowered please?

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#4 blooddrunk
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thats is waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy under powered
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#5 kuub
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buying the dell was a big mistake. but no, the dell didn't come with the GTX, my machine was running oblivion sooo badly, i thought the new card would fix all my problems - which it did, until i upgraded the monitor.

my specs is here if you could suggest where i need to replace components:

http://www.kuub.co.uk/cpu_info.jpg

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#6 kuub
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or if you (or anyone) could just tell me what power my CPU should be to run a 8800 GTX, that would be great too.
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#7 Penguin_dragon
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You need about 30amps on the +12V Rail, and you currently have 18. I think this might be just enough at a resonable price.
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#8 battledroid978
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To give yourself a good margin, grab a 500W or greater power supply.
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#9 kuub
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ahhhh, hard facts, thanks, that's great. i didn't realise the power might be effecting my system so much. what changes will occur when i get the right power CPU in there?
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#10 Munkyman587
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You need about 30amps on the +12V Rail, and you currently have 18. I think this might be just enough at a resonable price.Penguin_dragon

Na, at that price, you might as well find one with dual rails. There are better options

Edit: after looking at newegg, I guess a lot of the deals I had seen about a month ago have ended... that may be the best bet, or save up for the corsair that is about 30 bucks more I think.. it is worth the difference IMO.

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#11 jhunte99
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I bought that monitor recently too, it's awesome :D love it to bits.

and to contribute.... ummm yeh, you need a new psu.
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#12 kuub
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ah... now i'm getting confused again. unfortunatley, i know as much about the insides of a pc, as a worm knows about the international space station. therefore i listen to you guys, the experts of this stuff. but when you all disagree and send conflicting suggestions, my tiny brain seizes up and over-heats.

is there any chance someone could make it idiot-proof for me, by posting a link for a device that will do the job, and make my funbox do pretty things?

something future-proof would obviously be an advantage. but as long as it does the job, and doesn't cost silly money, i'm not fussy.

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#13 blooddrunk
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028

that should make your funbox do lots of pretty high definition things

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^ The Corsair 550w I recommended had a little more Amps on the +12V rail, is 80+ certified, it has a bottom mounted 120mm fan, AND its from Corsair, and they have excelent build quality.

It should be somewhat future proof, its hard to say what is though since I dont know what the future will hold. Also I've seen this one, and its pretty much better than the Corsair becuase it has ALOT more Amps on the +12V rail and their split up into 4 rails, which should make it more stable, but I've never had an OCZ product so I cant vouch for it.

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#15 kuub
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The message i'm hearing is that i want a Corsair 450 or 550.

There's only 10 bucks difference, so i'm tempted to go for the bigger shinier one. As I live in the u.k. should i source this locally, or buy it from the u.s. links that you provided?

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Those are good one's they're showing you. And I'd try to find it over there, the shipping, taxes, and other junk would probably be pretty expensive. I've heard a lot of people mention this site as a good one, and here is a good PSU:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-005-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=

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Hold on real quick before you buy anything. Can anyone confirm if that PSU is ATX? Don't some Dell's have a BTX mobo, which would require a different PSU?
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#18 Penguin_dragon
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The message i'm hearing is that i want a Corsair 450 or 550.

There's only 10 bucks difference, so i'm tempted to go for the bigger shinier one. As I live in the u.k. should i source this locally, or buy it from the u.s. links that you provided?

kuub

The bigger shinier one is always better :D and yeah, try to find an online retailer thats near you.

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#19 Penguin_dragon
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Hold on real quick before you buy anything. Can anyone confirm if that PSU is ATX? Don't some Dell's have a BTX mobo, which would require a different PSU? Fignewton50

ATX powersupplies are fully compatible with btx motherboards, or so wikipedia says. And to the TC, that other power supply he suggested is even better than the one i refered you to in technical terms, and it is modular, which means that you would only use the cables which you need, so if space is an issue in your case i would consider that one.

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I'd recommend upgrading the PSU aswell, but I doubt that it's his problem. He cutting it damn close, but I assume he's had this card for a while. The problem could be be with his video drivers or the card itself, not just the power supply. Try updating/changing your drivers before buying something.
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#21 kuub
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Don't have any idea what this means: 'PSU is ATX? Don't some Dell's have a BTX mobo, which would require a different PSU?'

so i'll just pretend i didn't read that little nugget of confusion.

to clarify, i am going to be upgrading the whole lot, minus the graphics card, because that seems okay. i wanted to do this bit by bit, starting with the power supply, and going on to the motherboard, cpu and ram, but i've been told that after i've done the power supply, all the next 3 things have to be done at once, because of compatibility issues with power usage and formats and stuff, so this might change your opinion of what power supply i should get.

these are the places i'll probably be looking to buy it from.... so if you stick any links to products, could you please see if you can find them on here?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/index.php

please.

thanks for all your help by the way.

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#22 Penguin_dragon
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Don't have any idea what this means: 'PSU is ATX? Don't some Dell's have a BTX mobo, which would require a different PSU?'

so i'll just pretend i didn't read that little nugget of confusion.

to clarify, i am going to be upgrading the whole lot, minus the graphics card, because that seems okay. i wanted to do this bit by bit, starting with the power supply, and going on to the motherboard, cpu and ram, but i've been told that after i've done the power supply, all the next 3 things have to be done at once, because of compatibility issues with power usage and formats and stuff, so this might change your opinion of what power supply i should get.

these are the places i'll probably be looking to buy it from.... so if you stick any links to products, could you please see if you can find them on here?

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

or

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/index.php

please.

thanks for all your help by the way.

kuub

What that meant is that dell sometimes like to use their own special parts so you cant change them with standard parts and have to use dell themselves to do so, but that is not an issue.

You could probably scrap the ram, dvd drives, hard drives or even the proccesor (provided your not switching from intel -> amd, or vice versa) into the new PC you plan to build. You might not need to upgrade RAM, CPU, and your motherboard at once, but once you swap out the motherboard your hard drive will be useless and you have to reinstall or repair windows just FYI. Either way though, unless you plan on going for SLI, that Power Supply fignewton recommended is great and should suit your needs well.

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#23 kuub
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if anyone's interested, a very kind pc expert from another forum suggested i get these components, after studying my pc's stats.....

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-192-IN

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-100-GI

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-090-CR

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-157-IN

seems like i need a lot of stuff, the power supply is on top of all that lot. so that's FIVE new bits i need to buy.....scheesh, this is going to sting when i get the bill.

[edit] oh my god, i just read that last post. i even have to re-install windows. this really is going to be a big spikey pill to swallow. no pain....no gain....bring it on.

gonna sign off to sleep now as it's 4.15 in the morning, but keep the comments coming, and i'll back soon to see what's what.

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#24 Penguin_dragon
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^

Well the first and last of those items are both proccesors, and you only need one, I think whoever recommended that meant for you to pick one of them or forgot to remove one. Other than that though those parts are great.

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#27 kuub
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ooops, sorry, your right. he said if i can afford it, get the first one, if not then get the second one. i'll have to go over all the prices when i'm not so sleepy and see which suits my budget best, but i think i can afford it, so it looks like the first one.

very pleased to hear you agree with those suggestions though, makes life so much easier when people agree on stuff.

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#28 jhunte99
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i switched from an msi k8n neo4 motherboard which is amd socket 939, to the gigabyte mobo i have now and intel cpu, and i didn't have to re-install windows, i just uninstalled my previous drivers and installed the appropriate new ones. This was using vista though which is better at finding drivers (well i think so anyway). but i guess if you're using xp then yes, i suggest re-installing windows.

Also you can get that crucial ram if you want, but there is nothing wrong with ocz's platinum ram, it's just as good but cheaper.


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