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#1 scubasteve12333
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Are there any fun games with israel?

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#2 Judza
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Um...possibly.
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#3 Jack_Summersby
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Are there any fun games with israel?

scubasteve12333

Jane's USAF was created by the Israelis, though it's not necessarily about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. 

Are you hoping to play as the Rock Chuckers, or the Occupiers?  (humor)

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must not make joke.............

must not make joke.............

must not make joke.............

ok, moment passed. 

i dont think anyone would touch that subject with a pole that would reach to the moon. 

if you make one side win, the actuall other side would scream bloody murder.

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I don't know.  I know one thing though...  They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War.  The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!
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I don't know.  I know one thing though...  They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War.  The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!tsb247

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale.  What was it?  Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army?  And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it.  Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

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I think hezbollah has already made FPS game about that but I don't know the name...
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Holy **** games about the Six Day War or Yom Kippur would be freaking sweet!  CALL OF DUTY 2 MOD or BF2 MOD ANYONE!?!?!?!?
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Iran is making some game... it's close enough.
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#10 Iranian_Guy
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Iran is making a RTS "save the port" but I don't think it will be about israel and palestine it will be about iraqi invasion
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[QUOTE="tsb247"]I don't know. I know one thing though... They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War. The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!mrbojangles25

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale. What was it? Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army? And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it. Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

A FPS would be better 

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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="tsb247"]I don't know. I know one thing though... They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War. The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!Lonelynight

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale. What was it? Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army? And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it. Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

A FPS would be better 

not a run and gun fps though, it would be better as a tactical shooter.

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#13 Iffy350
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Are there any fun games with israel?

scubasteve12333

I believe Steel Panthers is as close as your going to get!

Check out the camo workshop website! 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Panthers 

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="tsb247"]I don't know. I know one thing though... They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War. The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!Artosa

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale. What was it? Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army? And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it. Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

A FPS would be better 

not a run and gun fps though, it would be better as a tactical shooter.

You could create a relatively convincing scenario with ArmA, if you didn't want to wait for someone to make a full game.  :)

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A game based on the Israeli/Palistinian conflict would be impossible to make as there would be no winners and it would never end.

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yeah i saw once an TPS game about it - made by some arrabic country **** - showing that the Israelies are the bad guys that the Israelies soilder threw a rock on a arrabic woman - WTF? lol that **** must have an AK47 in real life

 anyway is there an Israel mod on C&C Generals? coz if there is i'm going to download it right away

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A game based on the Israeli/Palistinian conflict would be impossible to make as there would be no winners and it would never end.

phaedric

Heh; good point. Depressing, but true.

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#18 masterjojo3
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I bet that there is a C and C mod for Israel. Youll have to look it up.
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Also, I would never play a game by Iran. It is probably filled with bias and slants.
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Also, I would never play a game by Iran. It is probably filled with bias and slants. masterjojo3

Every game based on history or current events is filled with bias and slants.

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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/israeliairforce/index.html?q=Israeli%20Air%20Force&tag=result;title;0
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[QUOTE="masterjojo3"]Also, I would never play a game by Iran. It is probably filled with bias and slants. lokstah

Every game based on history or current events is filled with bias and slants.

Also, I could be wrong, but I'm guessing the nation of Iran isn't developing the game in question. An Iranian company is.

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I remember seeing an RTS a loooonnnng time ago about the Yom Kippur War. I remember it had a lot to do with tanks, and thinking "Huh, this looks kind of offensive," and leaving it on the shelf.
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#24 Arcadius
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Actually when I was in high school we played a game called CONFLICT: Middle East Political Simulator by Virgin games. In that game you play as Israel against the whole Middle Eastern Arab countries. It was a blast to play, of course it works in simulated results so no actual gameplay or graphic hungry FPS here, but it still fits the Topic criteria.
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="tsb247"]I don't know. I know one thing though... They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War. The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!Artosa

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale. What was it? Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army? And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it. Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

A FPS would be better

not a run and gun fps though, it would be better as a tactical shooter.

Ya, tactical shooter FTW!! 

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Games based on real conflicts can offend nations. In Germany Nazi symbols are banned, which makes it difficult to release WW2 historical games in that country. Falcon 4 was banned in South Korea because it simulated a conflict between North and South Korea. The Hearts of Iron series was banned in China because it protrayed multiple Nationalist factions in China in the 1930's, they're particularly anal they even coerced Google to remove Tibet from Google earth.

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Team deathmatch wouldn't be fair. The israeli team would have automatic weapons and tanks, helicopters etc.  whereas the palestinian side would have rocks and a piece of wood with a nail in it.  just make sure you dont 'auto-assign'.
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what the **** are you talking about?Israelies are monsters they use any kind of weapons against unarmed civilians.I don't like Arabs but I do know that Israelies are the bad guys.and one more thing watch you mouth when you are talking about my great land of Iran.
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Yup the middle east is particularly sensitive 8)
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Team deathmatch wouldn't be fair. The israeli team would have automatic weapons and tanks, helicopters etc.  whereas the palestinian side would have rocks and a piece of wood with a nail in it.  just make sure you dont 'auto-assign'. couly

WHAT? try more like this......best assault rife - AK47, anti tanks - RPG - all thanks to Russia

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[QUOTE="couly"]Team deathmatch wouldn't be fair. The israeli team would have automatic weapons and tanks, helicopters etc.  whereas the palestinian side would have rocks and a piece of wood with a nail in it.  just make sure you dont 'auto-assign'. PredatorRules

WHAT? try more like this......best assault rife - AK47, anti tanks - RPG - all thanks to Russia

it was a joke, but anyway you always see kids throwing rocks at tanks

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[QUOTE="tsb247"]I don't know. I know one thing though... They could make a really cool game (or an awesome mod for ArmA) out of the Six Day War. The Israelis smoked Iraq, Egypt, and Syria all at the same time!mrbojangles25

Ya, a tank sim would totally go well with this era and locale. What was it? Like 6 Israeli tanks against the whole enemy army? And they only lost one tank or something incredible like that.

But ya, its definately a touchy subect, especially since it is a current conflict and the world is extremely polarized about it. Its interesting, however, that we can play games where Americans, Germans, British, etc can kill and die in war but we "cant" make a game where Isrealis and Palestinians die and kill in war.

Yeah that would be cool. 

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what the **** are you talking about?Israelies are monsters they use any kind of weapons against unarmed civilians.I don't like Arabs but I do know that Israelies are the bad guys.and one more thing watch you mouth when you are talking about my great land of Iran.Iranian_Guy

Ah...Iranian brainwashing at it's best!  Didn't your leader once say they intend to "wipe Israel from the map"?  I would re-think who is the enemy.  In israel you have freedom, in Iran the goverment controls all information.  That is clue #1 to which country is evil.  Google and find out some more info...oh wait...the Iranian goverment has blocked most of the sites you will find info like this on anyways :P

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I was in no way trying to offend Iran, I was just saying that having a game produced by one side of the conflict could carry heavy bias. The same thing would hgappen if an Israeli company created a game about the conflict.
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Hmm i think people must rethink  some of their statements, since in this conflict it is not black and white, there is no such thing as ''the bad guys''. both sides have claims and they do not want to negotiate so this kinds of leads to perpetual struggle since neither side does have an advantage .  But if you really want to play a israeli/palestinian game, play some CS or BF2 i guess
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[QUOTE="Iranian_Guy"]what the **** are you talking about?Israelies are monsters they use any kind of weapons against unarmed civilians.I don't like Arabs but I do know that Israelies are the bad guys.and one more thing watch you mouth when you are talking about my great land of Iran.dnuggs40

Ah...Iranian brainwashing at it's best!  Didn't your leader once say they intend to "wipe Israel from the map"?  I would re-think who is the enemy.  In israel you have freedom, in Iran the goverment controls all information.  That is clue #1 to which country is evil.  Google and find out some more info...oh wait...the Iranian goverment has blocked most of the sites you will find info like this on anyways :P

Iranian brainwashing?don't you remember that Israelies bombed a civilian camp and killed hundreds of people(oh sorry they censor those news)?of cource Israel is a free country but only free for zionists.Israel is almost asbig as our neigbourhood.
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"don't you remember that Israelies bombed a civilian camp and killed hundreds of people"

And what about the palestinians bombing Israeli market places killing many as well?  Or the bus bombs?  Or the rocket attacks?  Or the attacks on soldiers and kidnapping them?  I am not saying either side is guilt free...but you need to put things into perspective.  It is not so one sided as you claim it is.

"oh sorry they censor those news"

Actually...you just proved my point.  Obviously they didn't censor that news, but they do censor the otherside.  This is why your viewpoint is so jaded.  Oh...and don't claim they don't censor your news...it is a FACT.

"of cource Israel is a free country but only free for zionists."

Sure I bet that is what they would love for you to believe...unfourtunetly...this is not the reality of the situation.  I actually lived in Israel...guess what...my next door neighboor were...gasp!...arabs!  Very nioce people as well...full Israeli citizens too.  Every Israeli citizen has 100% (regadless of race/religion/political persuasion) the rights as anybody else in the country.

"Israel is almost asbig as our neigbourhood. "

And yet the managed to kicked the living hell out of 3 countries at the same time in 6 days.  Pretty amazing eh?

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Israel is guilty not palestine
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Israel is guilty not palestineIranian_Guy

Yes I am sure this ideology has been hammered into your brain, and actually it's not evern your fault.  How can you have an informed opinion on the subject if you have only heard half the story?  It is impossible, and not your fault becuase of your oppressive goverment.  I really hope one day the youth of Iran rise up and kick out the current regime.  I hear most Iranians are actually getting pretty tired of the BS your goverment pulls....

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[QUOTE="Iranian_Guy"]Israel is guilty not palestinednuggs40

Yes I am sure this ideology has been hammered into your brain, and actually it's not evern your fault. How can you have an informed opinion on the subject if you have only heard half the story? It is impossible, and not your fault becuase of your oppressive goverment. I really hope one day the youth of Iran rise up and kick out the current regime. I hear most Iranians are actually getting pretty tired of the BS your goverment pulls....

Funny thing is that us americans are also getting tired of the BS that our government pulls as well. Speaking of censorship, have you ever heard of the dresden bombings carried out by our troops during WWII; if not, then it's probably our patriotic censorship at its best. As the saying goes, history is written by the victors. And brainwashing, come on, does the "support the troops" brainwashing BS ring a bell?

As for the israeli-palestinian conflict, it simply boils down to this, on the palestinian side you have most people who are trained/brainwashed from birth to hate israel and to become suicide bombers (recent example is the mickey mouse television program broadcast by hamas). The palestinians do not want peace and wish to wipe out israel from the face of the earth, not really people that you can negotiate with, eh. On the israeli side, you have a smaller segment of right wing lunatics (lunatics as most true right wingers tend to be) who also don't want peace. Then there is the pan-arab hatred of israel (from syria, iran, etc.).

Back on topic, it is impossible to create an unbiased game based upon any conflict, as national sensitivities persist. Think about any WWII game that you've played, all german soldiers are "evil" killing machines, when in actuality many were probably 18 year old kids that were drafted into the army. On the other side, the allies are always noble, when in actuality you can refer to my dresden bombing reference. In conclusion, it's difficult to make an unbiased game about any conflict, especially one that is still ongoing.

 

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Israel is guilty not palestineIranian_Guy

Hmmm, I don't remember it being condoned in Israel that you get to heaven by strapping explosives to yourself and detonating yourself in a market or on a bus.

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[QUOTE="lokstah"][QUOTE="lokstah"]

[QUOTE="masterjojo3"]Also, I would never play a game by Iran. It is probably filled with bias and slants. vfibsux

Every game based on history or current events is filled with bias and slants.

 

 

Also, I could be wrong, but I'm guessing the nation of Iran isn't developing the game in question. An Iranian company is.

 

Look at the sig and you know where this tool is coming from, obviously defending our enemies just as the left loves to do. With your last post I bet you are one of those Chomsky disciples as well. If you think the Islamic Republic of Iran, or as you liked to call it "Nation of Iran", does not have influence in this game you are sadly mistaken.

Rather than engage me in a discussion or debate about who influenced the development of this game, you defined me as an enemy-defending leftist "tool" before saying anything else. That's cowardly. If anyone with guts and a sense of decency wants to talk about this stuff, I'm more than willing.

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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]

[QUOTE="Iranian_Guy"]Israel is guilty not palestinespierdalaj666

Yes I am sure this ideology has been hammered into your brain, and actually it's not evern your fault. How can you have an informed opinion on the subject if you have only heard half the story? It is impossible, and not your fault becuase of your oppressive goverment. I really hope one day the youth of Iran rise up and kick out the current regime. I hear most Iranians are actually getting pretty tired of the BS your goverment pulls....

Funny thing is that us americans are also getting tired of the BS that our government pulls as well. Speaking of censorship, have you ever heard of the dresden bombings carried out by our troops during WWII; if not, then it's probably our patriotic censorship at its best. As the saying goes, history is written by the victors. And brainwashing, come on, does the "support the troops" brainwashing BS ring a bell?

As for the israeli-palestinian conflict, it simply boils down to this, on the palestinian side you have most people who are trained/brainwashed from birth to hate israel and to become suicide bombers (recent example is the mickey mouse television program broadcast by hamas). The palestinians do not want peace and wish to wipe out israel from the face of the earth, not really people that you can negotiate with, eh. On the israeli side, you have a smaller segment of right wing lunatics (lunatics as most true right wingers tend to be) who also don't want peace. Then there is the pan-arab hatred of israel (from syria, iran, etc.).

Back on topic, it is impossible to create an unbiased game based upon any conflict, as national sensitivities persist. Think about any WWII game that you've played, all german soldiers are "evil" killing machines, when in actuality many were probably 18 year old kids that were drafted into the army. On the other side, the allies are always noble, when in actuality you can refer to my dresden bombing reference. In conclusion, it's difficult to make an unbiased game about any conflict, especially one that is still ongoing.

 

Oh I agree 100%  We are starting to see alot more of this kind of information repression in the US as well.  Though...it's more of the citizens of this country's fault.  All the information is out there and accessible to the population...problem is...most american's are too lazy to do any sort of reading and would rather just be spoonfed info from fox news.

"recent example is the mickey mouse television program broadcast by hamas"

Ya...I saw that.  Pretty disturbing.  I am not trying to justify either side, but it certainly makes a pretty bold statement when one side is even willing to brainwash it's youth using imagery such as that.  I really feel sad for the kids involved :(  BTW...where did you see that?  The ONLY place I have seen that story was on the BBC...so far no US stations (that I have seen) carried this.

"On the israeli side, you have a smaller segment of right wing lunatics (lunatics as most true right wingers tend to be) who also don't want peace. Then there is the pan-arab hatred of israel (from syria, iran, etc.)."

Ya...alot of Israeli's are getting sick of them too.  There has been MAJOR protests of the current goverment and the way Israel handled the way they attacked.

"In conclusion, it's difficult to make an unbiased game about any conflict, especially one that is still ongoing. "

Most deffinetly.  Although, like most people, eventually you have to chose sides.  I know they both have done evil, but looking at each society, it is no secret who I think is the most honest and realy wanting peace.  I mean...using Mickey Mouse to brain wash children...that is disgusting...

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#45 ttomm1946
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Hi

There is a game out called PeaceMaker about the current conflict that's fairly new but it looks like a snoozer to me..:roll:

http://www.peacemakergame.com/

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#46 johnnyb47
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There's no need to create a new game about the israeli-palestinian conflict. You have the game called Flame Wars right here on this forum thread.
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#47 spierdalaj666
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@dnuggs40,

The mickey mouse story first appeared on bbc (and possibly euronews, although i'm not sure about that) and was later picked up by US "news" networks like CNN.

I agree with your comments about US news networks serving the purpose of spoonfeeding information to the masses. However, since most national and international events are generally complicated, requiring one to actually try to research them to get to the truth of the matter, the news networks try to simplify issues to the point of absurdity that a common person can absorb.

The other aspect of the US "news" networks is that they're controlled by these giant entertainment networks, whose sole job is to sell the news and get high ratings. As an example, try going to cnn.com and i can bet you that of the 10 top stories that they're focusing on, 8 will be about bears falling off trees and i quote "'Paris should go to jail,' family friend says". That is a top story of the day, give me a break.

Back to the israeli-palestinian conflict, i used to be unbiased and think that both sides were equally venomous, but now it appears to me at least that the real stumbling block to any sort of peace deal is the palestinian refusal to acknowledge the existence of israel, rather wishing for its obliteration. The only way for hostilities to cease is for both sides to at least acknowledge that the other side has a right to live, something that the palestinian government is not inclined to do and so the conflict continues.

To the Iranian guy, while israel may be the source of all evil in your eyes, at least the israeli society as a whole is fairly liberalized/modernized. They don't force their women to and I quote bill maher here "wear beekeeper suits" like some of your neighbors do, whom might i add, are probably the source of most of the "evil" in this world.

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And to think all this petty bickering and nonsense could have been avoided if they just moved the Jews to Alaska instead.

Sure, its cold and dark most of the time, but instead of being surrounded by people that hate them and want them dead, they would be surrounded by Canada, bearer of the largest number of donut shops per capita in the world!

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And to think all this petty bickering and nonsense could have been avoided if they just moved the Jews to Alaska instead.

Sure, its cold and dark most of the time, but instead of being surrounded by people that hate them and want them dead, they would be surrounded by Canada, bearer of the largest number of donut shops per capita in the world!

t3hTwinky

Sure...great idea.  On that same token lets move the US to Antartica to make way for the illegal immigrants comming in from Mexico.  See...everyone can be happy :P

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#50 spierdalaj666
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And to think all this petty bickering and nonsense could have been avoided if they just moved the Jews to Alaska instead.

Sure, its cold and dark most of the time, but instead of being surrounded by people that hate them and want them dead, they would be surrounded by Canada, bearer of the largest number of donut shops per capita in the world!

t3hTwinky

lol

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