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[QUOTE="-SaI"]no such thing as "gaming mobo"
just a marketing schemeJAMullins
A gaming motherboard is a motherboard the runs better for games, not just a marketing scheme, but a better way of getting the most out of your games.
like that fatal1ty POS that abit trys market to ppl?
what features would make a mobo "gaming?"
lol... the "Gaming Motherboard". IMO, there is no gaming motherboard.
blacksorrow07
So you would get a 680i for microsoft word?
http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
JAMullins
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
[QUOTE="blacksorrow07"]lol... the "Gaming Motherboard". IMO, there is no gaming motherboard.
_SKatEDiRt_
So you would get a 680i for microsoft word?
The only reason why i would go with the 680i, would be for SLI.
[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="blacksorrow07"]lol... the "Gaming Motherboard". IMO, there is no gaming motherboard.
Bebi_vegeta
So you would get a 680i for microsoft word?
The only reason why i would go with the 680i, would be for SLI.
same here
[QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
Bebi_vegeta
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
Go to TomsHardware.com and read the reviews for motherboards. Why do they have different numbers in the performance comparison?
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
JAMullins
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
I agree lol
If all motherboards were the same then why are there so many out there?
With different prices features etc...
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
JAMullins
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
Go to TomsHardware.com and read the reviews for motherboards. Why do they have different numbers in the performance comparison?
wow, you still go to TH?
~_~ go to some other site that actualy care about performance, like XS or overclock.net
[QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
-SaI
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
Go to TomsHardware.com and read the reviews for motherboards. Why do they have different numbers in the performance comparison?
wow, you still go to TH?
~_~ go to some other site that actualy care about performance, like XS or overclock.net
Debating technique 42b: If you can't discredit the argument, discredit where it came from
It's blatantly obvious that motherboards affect performance. Go to practically ANY reliable site, and you'll see different ratings for different boards. It's just basic logic here.
[QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
skinnypete91
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
I agree lol
If all motherboards were the same then why are there so many out there?
With different prices features etc...
You just said it, features!!!
Whats the difference between intel x975,965, and nvidia 680i? In performance wise gaming!
They change motherboard because of the processor, memory, front bus, video cards, hard drive have changed.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
JAMullins
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
Go to TomsHardware.com and read the reviews for motherboards. Why do they have different numbers in the performance comparison?
Ok, show me a benchmark please.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/22/680i_motherboard_comparison_part_2/page9.html
Oh wow, 5 frames difference...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/12/21/680i-motherboard-comparison/page9.html
Yeah, alot of different performances...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/12/19/intel_or_nvidia/page10.html
Yeah i look like a complete newb...
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/11/13/shootout_at_the_core_2_corral/page17.html
I'm I reading right?
Hopefully, they'll start moving towards a more unified relationship between GPU and CPU. It looks like Microsoft is already trying to get that ball rolling on the software side with Vista and DirectX 10, but the hardware market really needs to follow suit in order for it to provide any meaningful improvements in performance. Multi-core CPUs are finally in the mainstream, but no interface yet exists to put them to good use. I think the revolution starts there. The current architecture of computers still presents far too many bottlenecks and limitations to truly be "next gen" when it comes to gaming. The console guys are definitely a few steps ahead at this point, but they are limited by the amount of money that the more casual-gaming console crowd are willing to pay for hardware, and as a result, you end up with failed junk like the Cell processor. Think about it: seven cores for $599? Wow. That's some trick. And still, no one would exactly consider the PS3 to be "cheap". It's a marvelous system, ain't it? Yeah, so marvelous, in fact, that all the game developers are just sitting there marvelling at it. Oh, and I think SLI is the most ridiculous idea the market has ever produced. "Interesting. It seems our GPU is capable of processing ten times more data than these games are throwing at it, and yet they still don't run nearly as well as we thought they would.""Hmm, that is surely odd. Say, what if we had two of them?" :|JN_Fenrir
The cell is a SINGLE core processor with 7 SPEs, which are NOT cores.
[QUOTE="-SaI"]no such thing as "gaming mobo"
just a marketing schemeJAMullins
A gaming motherboard is a motherboard the runs better for games, not just a marketing scheme, but a better way of getting the most out of your games.
1 or 2 extra frames for an extra cost of $100? :lol:
The guy's right--there's no such thing as a gaming motherboard.
Now, an overclocking friendly motherboard is another thing...
[QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="-SaI"]no such thing as "gaming mobo"
just a marketing schemeWesker776
A gaming motherboard is a motherboard the runs better for games, not just a marketing scheme, but a better way of getting the most out of your games.
1 or 2 extra frames for an extra cost of $100? :lol:
The guy's right--there's no such thing as a gaming motherboard.
Now, an overclocking friendly motherboard is another thing...
http://usa.asus.com/products1.aspx?l1=3 "Gaming Motherboards"
Bebi_vegeta settle down before you hurt yourself. Your words exactly "Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance." so if the numbers are different then does that make them the same. We are talking about motherboards in general. Why do motherboards have different price ranges? Why do they make new ones every year? and most importantly Why do you keep going on and on when you are WRONG? You are compairing very closely related motherboards. Go do me a favor and put an ASUS Striker Extreme against a MSI PM8M3-V. There is no chance "they all have the same performance". I am sure several people will back me... JAMullins
LOL you wanna know why?
Because each year or so a new product had been lunched, from procesors changing needing new socket, new chipset meaning faster front side to go with the processor and plenty of features, memory ddr to ddr3, video card pci, agp, pci-e and pci-e2.0 Also from SLI to crossfire, hard drive going to ata to sata... theres plenty of motherboard that are specific to a users needs.
And your comparing a micro atx motherboard ( that is old, with DDR memorie, AGP slot, ATA hard drive, with 800fbs) to a normal motherboard (1333fbs,ddr2,pci-e,sata,sli) ... comon get real!
[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="-SaI"]no such thing as "gaming mobo"
just a marketing schemeJAMullins
A gaming motherboard is a motherboard the runs better for games, not just a marketing scheme, but a better way of getting the most out of your games.
1 or 2 extra frames for an extra cost of $100? :lol:
The guy's right--there's no such thing as a gaming motherboard.
Now, an overclocking friendly motherboard is another thing...
http://usa.asus.com/products1.aspx?l1=3 "Gaming Motherboards"
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[QUOTE="JAMullins"]Bebi_vegeta settle down before you hurt yourself. Your words exactly "Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance." so if the numbers are different then does that make them the same. We are talking about motherboards in general. Why do motherboards have different price ranges? Why do they make new ones every year? and most importantly Why do you keep going on and on when you are WRONG? You are compairing very closely related motherboards. Go do me a favor and put an ASUS Striker Extreme against a MSI PM8M3-V. There is no chance "they all have the same performance". I am sure several people will back me... Bebi_vegeta
LOL you wanna know why?
Because each year or so a new product had been lunched, from procesors changing needing new socket, new chipset meaning faster front side to go with the processor and plenty of features, memory ddr to ddr3, video card pci, agp, pci-e and pci-e2.0 Also from SLI to crossfire, hard drive going to ata to sata... theres plenty of motherboard that are specific to a users needs.
And your comparing a micro atx motherboard ( that is old, with DDR memorie, AGP slot, ATA hard drive, with 800fbs) to a normal motherboard (1333fbs,ddr2,pci-e,sata,sli) ... comon get real!
You proved yourself wrong... Not all motherboards have the same performance... Thanks for wasting my time even more with your need to reply to everything...
Hopefully, they'll start moving towards a more unified relationship between GPU and CPU. It looks like Microsoft is already trying to get that ball rolling on the software side with Vista and DirectX 10, but the hardware market really needs to follow suit in order for it to provide any meaningful improvements in performance. Multi-core CPUs are finally in the mainstream, but no interface yet exists to put them to good use. I think the revolution starts there. The current architecture of computers still presents far too many bottlenecks and limitations to truly be "next gen" when it comes to gaming. The console guys are definitely a few steps ahead at this point, but they are limited by the amount of money that the more casual-gaming console crowd are willing to pay for hardware, and as a result, you end up with failed junk like the Cell processor. Think about it: seven cores for $599? Wow. That's some trick. And still, no one would exactly consider the PS3 to be "cheap". It's a marvelous system, ain't it? Yeah, so marvelous, in fact, that all the game developers are just sitting there marvelling at it. Oh, and I think SLI is the most ridiculous idea the market has ever produced. "Interesting. It seems our GPU is capable of processing ten times more data than these games are throwing at it, and yet they still don't run nearly as well as we thought they would.""Hmm, that is surely odd. Say, what if we had two of them?" :|JN_Fenrir
Here is an example of what to not listen too. AS he never answered one of your questions....lol. Gaming motherboards are things like extra LAN connections and some LEDs added. Theyre usually the top of hte line board from a MoBo company. The top motherbaord usually results in the companies pride and joy for overclocking.
The P35 board support DDR3, but currently their are not many good P35 boards. eVGA 680i rev.A1 and DFI's new 680i LANParty are said to support Penryn for future Intel CPU.
The best board out by a long shot is the new DFI LANParty, check my sig for SSJBens review on it. Also DFI is coming out with the P35 shortly and it supposedly just mruders all boards out there with its ridiculous overlcocking. Theyre currently working on a new cooling solution for the NB and SB. Theyre FSB on the board is 2.5Ghz.....:lol:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40381
[QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]http://www.nvidia.com/page/nforce_600i.html
nforce motherboards have always been for gamers. Performance results prove they are better for games... What more do you want?
-SaI
Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance.
MoBo's have nothing to do with performance.
evilbarbarian
Honestly I think Bebi_vegeta you dont know what you are talking about. Mobo's play a very important role and they do not all have the same performance.
evilbarbarian shush
Go to TomsHardware.com and read the reviews for motherboards. Why do they have different numbers in the performance comparison?
wow, you still go to TH?
~_~ go to some other site that actualy care about performance, like XS or overclock.net
ROFL...
Does anyone have any information reguarding the next step in gaming motherboards? My current favorites are the nforce 680a and 680i. I am sure new motherboards will support DDR3 memory and such but what is the future? PCIE faster then 8GB/s (x32)?JAMullins
Actually, DDR3 uses the same amount of pins as DDR2, it's just a little faster.
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]Bebi_vegeta settle down before you hurt yourself. Your words exactly "Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance." so if the numbers are different then does that make them the same. We are talking about motherboards in general. Why do motherboards have different price ranges? Why do they make new ones every year? and most importantly Why do you keep going on and on when you are WRONG? You are compairing very closely related motherboards. Go do me a favor and put an ASUS Striker Extreme against a MSI PM8M3-V. There is no chance "they all have the same performance". I am sure several people will back me... JAMullins
LOL you wanna know why?
Because each year or so a new product had been lunched, from procesors changing needing new socket, new chipset meaning faster front side to go with the processor and plenty of features, memory ddr to ddr3, video card pci, agp, pci-e and pci-e2.0 Also from SLI to crossfire, hard drive going to ata to sata... theres plenty of motherboard that are specific to a users needs.
And your comparing a micro atx motherboard ( that is old, with DDR memorie, AGP slot, ATA hard drive, with 800fbs) to a normal motherboard (1333fbs,ddr2,pci-e,sata,sli) ... comon get real!
You proved yourself wrong... Not all motherboards have the same performance... Thanks for wasting my time even more with your need to reply to everything...
Wow just wow... compare old technologie(that cant even have core 2 duo+ being micro atx) to the new one... yeah, nice logic. And where are your benchmarks proving this increase performance in game? I mean comon, you have shown no benchmarks from the start, i've shown plenty saying it's all the same performance. Now come back with some proof, or just step away.
[QUOTE="JAMullins"]Does anyone have any information reguarding the next step in gaming motherboards? My current favorites are the nforce 680a and 680i. I am sure new motherboards will support DDR3 memory and such but what is the future? PCIE faster then 8GB/s (x32)?Sandro909
Actually, DDR3 uses the same amount of pins as DDR2, it's just a little faster.
Yep, DDR3 is pin compatible with DDR2.
Even @ the same speeds, DDR3 is faster.
I like how that works because it slightly slows the upgrade process :)
DDR3 DIMMs have 240 pins, the same number as DDR2; however, the DIMMs are physically incompatible, owing to a different key notch location.
[QUOTE="Wesker776"][QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="-SaI"]no such thing as "gaming mobo"
just a marketing schemeJAMullins
A gaming motherboard is a motherboard the runs better for games, not just a marketing scheme, but a better way of getting the most out of your games.
1 or 2 extra frames for an extra cost of $100? :lol:
The guy's right--there's no such thing as a gaming motherboard.
Now, an overclocking friendly motherboard is another thing...
http://usa.asus.com/products1.aspx?l1=3 "Marketing Gimmick"
Fixed.
Why should I pay over twice as much money for an ASUS Striker Extreme when a sturdy P965/P35 motherboard such as the P5B Deluxe or GA-P35-DS3 will do the job just fine?
What's the difference with someone inserting an 8800GTX in a Striker and labelling it a gaming rig compared to someobe insterting the GTX in a DS3? Nothing, there is no difference. Well, you could point out that the difference between the two is that one motherboard costed three fold as much as the other motherboard.
'Gaming Motherboard' is just a marketing stamp that companies put on products to fool customers like into thinking that it's a cheap ticket to better performance in games. I think you need to go and look at the basics of computer systems, particularly the part about standards and protocols.
Don't be fooled.
[QUOTE="JAMullins"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="JAMullins"]Bebi_vegeta settle down before you hurt yourself. Your words exactly "Motherboards play very little in gaming performance, and they all have the same performance." so if the numbers are different then does that make them the same. We are talking about motherboards in general. Why do motherboards have different price ranges? Why do they make new ones every year? and most importantly Why do you keep going on and on when you are WRONG? You are compairing very closely related motherboards. Go do me a favor and put an ASUS Striker Extreme against a MSI PM8M3-V. There is no chance "they all have the same performance". I am sure several people will back me... Bebi_vegeta
LOL you wanna know why?
Because each year or so a new product had been lunched, from procesors changing needing new socket, new chipset meaning faster front side to go with the processor and plenty of features, memory ddr to ddr3, video card pci, agp, pci-e and pci-e2.0 Also from SLI to crossfire, hard drive going to ata to sata... theres plenty of motherboard that are specific to a users needs.
And your comparing a micro atx motherboard ( that is old, with DDR memorie, AGP slot, ATA hard drive, with 800fbs) to a normal motherboard (1333fbs,ddr2,pci-e,sata,sli) ... comon get real!
You proved yourself wrong... Not all motherboards have the same performance... Thanks for wasting my time even more with your need to reply to everything...
Wow just wow... compare old technologie(that cant even have core 2 duo+ being micro atx) to the new one... yeah, nice logic. And where are your benchmarks proving this increase performance in game? I mean comon, you have shown no benchmarks from the start, i've shown plenty saying it's all the same performance. Now come back with some proof, or just step away.
Apparently you know everything so keep on posting... I was just stating a fact that not all motherboards have the same performance and you constantly keep telling me I am wrong. Enough is enough...
Apparently you know everything so keep on posting... I was just stating a fact that not all motherboards have the same performance and you constantly keep telling me I am wrong. Enough is enough... JAMullinsWhen you're talking about equal chipsets, the performance delta on motherboards seems to be tiny enough to almost ignore. Different motherboards quietly overclock your processor by a few MHz, but aside from giant bugs or broken hardware (a motherboard getting half the memory bandwidth it's supposed to), they perform closely enough to be called the same in my book. When you throw real overclocking into the mix, it just completely breaks the whole formula anyway. You're paying for BIOS options, RMA/support, stability, and component choice/layout. Sort of like buying 'Gaming RAM' that's exactly the same chips as some other normal brand. One might perform a % or two better out the box, but when you mess around with overclocking or tweaking they generally do the same thing in the end. For example, I'm pretty sure it's the marketing people at Asus that are in charge of the 'Gaming Series/Republic of Gamers' line. :D Not engineers!
People are right. What's a gaming motherboard?
I buy motherboards based on it's ability to overclock (no overclock features, no deal for me) and has 2x PCIe 16x.
Like some have said "gaming motherboards" are just marketing ploys. Just look at ASUS's line of Republic of Gamers (or whatever it's called) series of motherboards.
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