Gameplay > graphics! Let's hear it, folks!

Seriously, I hate it when people yell about how the graphics in a game are crap for nowadays. Well guess what no one really complained when Schindler's List was in black-and-white, now did they? I play games like Geneforge, Avernum, soon Diablo 2, and the gameplay in those games is PHENOMENAL. I've seen this argument before, and I find it utterly ridiculous. Anyone here play Minecraft? That game looks older than Diablo, but is one of the most innovative games I've ever played.

So, are you for graphics, or gameplay? Do the graphics influence whether you buy a product or not? For me, it's definitely gameplay, unless the graphics hinder the gameplay in any way.

Graphics should effectively relay visual information that is imperative to the player. Also, graphics are part of the immersion process, however gameplay is of course the most essential bit.

Good graphics are not needed to make an amazing game BUT they make games better.

i've been playing KOTOR lately since it was dirt cheap on steam, never played it before

and i heard great things about it.

turns out that i love the game! it feels so much like mass effect 2, but starwars.

i'm no fan of star wars saga, but the music in this game pulls me

in soo much that it overpowers the dated graphics. combat is great and

the characters are dynamic. this is surely a classic.

Depends on the genre to a certain extent (I probably wouldn't spend hours in the Sims 2 making houses if the graphics sucked, nor would I play Simcity 4 if it weren't for the beautiful custom buildings you can get)

It's also kinda that sentiment is still around. I used to be a big graphic person around 2003-2004, but that's because a lot of older 3d games were butt ugly because of really low polygon counts and blank textures. Back in Doom days I was frickin happy to be playing a computer game period!

I'm sure game companies love it, as it's fairly straightforward to attract "gamers" with newer and marginally improved graphics, if you look really really...really...close.

If a game has good - great gameplay, but terrible awful 8-bit or 16-bit 2D graphics or N64-like 3D models, then I don't buy it.

If a game has stunning visuals but terrible gameplay, then I don't buy it.

If a game has decent graphics and gameplay, then I buy it.

Balancing graphics and gameplay is what makes a game great. In this generation, neither of them can survive without each other (unless you are very tolerant).

Graphics sell on pre-release, game-play sells on post-release

I think we can all agree that gameplay is on the top of the list of what makes a great game. This has been asked countless times and the answer is the same every time.

Still, I think people too often downplay the importance of how good a game looks, and too many act as though great graphics and great gameplay are somehow mutually exclusive. Good visuals make games more immersive and help to suspend disbelief, which makes games a heck of a lot more fun.

Depends on the genre to a certain extentCobra_nVidia

Pretty much, yeah.

For example, i consider the greatest JRPG's ever made to be Xenogears; Chrono Trigger; Final Fantasy 6,7,8,9; Grandia.. And i'm playing them right now, and i mean DAMN are they good compared to later such as FF XII and the likes. Another example, Blazblue does not use 3D characters, and its a beautiful, fairly popular game. Basically most 2D fighting games are timeless.

Games such as Super Mario World, Super Metroid & Castlevania: Simphony of the night, and other side scrollers are timeless games, could be played by any generation and could be enjoyed.

And wen your playing these games right now, and having fun with them, there's basically no nostalgia involved. Their just timeless.

I'll take both.

To me this is like saying a marriage without sex will work as long as you love each other. Yes gameplay is essential but you just have to back it up with decent graphics nowadays. Typically these days it is not an issue.

Graphics should effectively relay visual information that is imperative to the player. Also, graphics are part of the immersion process, however gameplay is of course the most essential bit.

mouthforbathory

Good graphics don't make a game immersive, quite the opposite in my opinion, i get immersed more in old games because the ''bad'' graphics leave more to the imagination.Artosa

Gameplay, Graphic, and Storyline. I judge a games from these 3. But still it depends on the genre.

For example, rollercoaster tycoon, tropico 1, knight of honor, stronghold, etc. they are old games and the graphics aren't as good as now, but I still enjoy these game because the gameplay are fascinating!!

[QUOTE="Artosa"]Good graphics don't make a game immersive, quite the opposite in my opinion, i get immersed more in old games because the ''bad'' graphics leave more to the imagination.osan0

Gameplay, amazing graphics are not needed. Only basic ones are. Look at Morrowind, I've had the most fun and time spent on that game, yet without mods the graphics are crap.

A game may derive its style from great graphics. Granted, like you people say 100% of the freaking time, its GAMEPLAY > GRAPHICS. Please stop making these topics, it's getting old.

It depends on the type of game. I've found with a lot of FPS that the visuals need to compliment the game play. You need to have high levels of detailed to feel immersed in the situations you are in. Look at a game like Thief. The attention on the shadows is a irreplaceable part of the game play. biggest_loser

I agree wholeheartedly with the argument that graphics need to either immerse the player, or provide imperative information for the player.

Gameplay over graphics everytime for me.

Seriously, I hate it when people yell about how the graphics in a game are crap for nowadays. Well guess what no one really complained when Schindler's List was in black-and-white, now did they? I play games like Geneforge, Avernum, soon Diablo 2, and the gameplay in those games is PHENOMENAL. I've seen this argument before, and I find it utterly ridiculous. Anyone here play Minecraft? That game looks older than Diablo, but is one of the most innovative games I've ever played.

So, are you for graphics, or gameplay? Do the graphics influence whether you buy a product or not? For me, it's definitely gameplay, unless the graphics hinder the gameplay in any way.

CaptainAhab13

Look at Morrowind, I've had the most fun and time spent on that game, yet without mods the graphics are crap.

morrowindnic

I find it kind of funny when people point to titles of the past as evidence that graphics don't matter. Many of those games had absolutely state of the art graphics at the time of their release, and Morrowind was certainly no exception. It doesn't completely discredit the argument, but it's kind of a funny thing to think about.

Look at Morrowind, I've had the most fun and time spent on that game, yet without mods the graphics are crap.

morrowindnic

Story, gameplay, graphics...in that order.

why settle? I would like to have both.

[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

Seriously, I hate it when people yell about how the graphics in a game are crap for nowadays. Well guess what no one really complained when Schindler's List was in black-and-white, now did they? I play games like Geneforge, Avernum, soon Diablo 2, and the gameplay in those games is PHENOMENAL. I've seen this argument before, and I find it utterly ridiculous. Anyone here play Minecraft? That game looks older than Diablo, but is one of the most innovative games I've ever played.

So, are you for graphics, or gameplay? Do the graphics influence whether you buy a product or not? For me, it's definitely gameplay, unless the graphics hinder the gameplay in any way.

gamer620