games for pc vs. 360 now that I have a passable graphics card?

So I finally found a graphics card that would fit in my mini PC. It's a Radeon HD 4650, I also have 4GB DDR2 Ram and a Pentium 2.4 GHz dual core. I know it's not high end but it seems to run most games respectably at 720p. For example it runs Crysis on high but would probably struggle with very high. My dilemma is I was planning on getting a 360 soon and am wondering about some games which version to buy.

I was thinking I would get games that I would be using a controller for like Burnout Paradise and Arkham Asylum on the 360. Is there any reason to consider otherwise?

I've heard some games like Fallout 3 and Far Cry 2 are more graphically optimized for the PC than the consoles. Things like draw distance etc. Would my setup be good enough to take advantage of the enhancements? What about a game that's a few years old like Oblivion or Bioshock?

What about a FPS like Modern Warfare that seem to be designed with the console in mind, with it's quick look aiming and such?

Also the Bioware games Mass Effect and Dragon age have a better control setup on the PC right? So is there any reason I should consider the console version of those?

With that computer I would choose the 360 version.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]With that computer I would choose the 360 version.Ikavnieks

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]With that computer I would choose the 360 version.Ikavnieks

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

I'm laughing at the irony here, as you flamed miller for the lack of sources or backing in his post, yet your answer is equally unsubstantiated.

For one thing, it depends entirely on what processor he has. If it's one of the Wolfdale, Clarksdale, or Conroe "Pentium Dual cores", then what you said is true. But if it's one of the older Pentium D's, then I would love to see it run DAO without horrendous stuttering, especially considering that my Athlon x2 @2.2GHz cannot perform this feat.

--EDIT-- Talk about irony. The Athlon x2 that I've got is a socket 939, which also happens to be my post count :shock:

[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]With that computer I would choose the 360 version.MaoTheChimp

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

I'm laughing at the irony here, as you flamed miller for the lack of sources or backing in his post, yet your answer is equally unsubstantiated.

For one thing, it depends entirely on what processor he has. If it's one of the Wolfdale, Clarksdale, or Conroe "Pentium Dual cores", then what you said is true. But if it's one of the older Pentium D's, then I would love to see it run DAO without horrendous stuttering, especially considering that my Athlon x2 @2.2GHz cannot perform this feat.

with a 4650, if ur screen size is 19", then the PC edition of console games would run fine, but if u had a 22" monitor, once u crank the resolution and the AA, that card is not gonna hold up very well. If you had chosen a 4850 or above for 22", then the PC version would win( I run a 4850 with an older core 2 2.13GHz, and Batman was excellent!)

with a 4650, if ur screen size is 19", then the PC edition of console games would run fine, but if u had a 22" monitor, once u crank the resolution and the AA, that card is not gonna hold up very well. If you had chosen a 4850 or above for 22", then the PC version would win( I run a 4850 with an older core 2 2.13GHz, and Batman was excellent!)

kungfool69

also my CPU is a E2220

[QUOTE="kungfool69"]

with a 4650, if ur screen size is 19", then the PC edition of console games would run fine, but if u had a 22" monitor, once u crank the resolution and the AA, that card is not gonna hold up very well. If you had chosen a 4850 or above for 22", then the PC version would win( I run a 4850 with an older core 2 2.13GHz, and Batman was excellent!)

baryjayne

My monitor is 1600x900 so it won't do 1680x1050 resolution. Big screen TV's aren't meant to be sat close to anyway. My point is that in regard to my original question I will be playing games at 720p and I am happy with that resolution and people should take that into account when answering my original question.baryjayne

After reading some reviews of the 4650, I'm going to say that you should go for the PC version of almost all the PC games that you've mentioned. For 720p, it looks like you have plenty of GPU power for almost any game, provided that you don't crank up the AA too high.

How, especially if it runs Crysis on high? It'll probably run most, if not all multiplatform games better than a console at a higher setting.

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

Ikavnieks

Wow, if he is a douche, typing whatever you are here will probably get me insta-banned.

[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"]

How, especially if it runs Crysis on high? It'll probably run most, if not all multiplatform games better than a console at a higher setting.

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

Domobomb

Wow, if he is a douche, typing whatever you are here will probably get me insta-banned.

Well thank you, to those who gave me advice.

For me, X360 since you can play both PC and X360. For 200~300 bucks, you can have a lot more games to play and tons of extras. While X360 hardware is weaker, but, its games look amazing. PC will have better graphics if you have a really good gaming PC, but it is not much differences. If you don't have a PC, of course PC is more important than gamming. You can at lease game a little with lower end PC. If you already have X360, totally a new GPU. Not sure about Dragon Age, but, Mass Effect is build with X360 in mind, so the control is really good. The menu system is deisgned with console in mind actually. magicalclick

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]For me, X360 since you can play both PC and X360. For 200~300 bucks, you can have a lot more games to play and tons of extras. While X360 hardware is weaker, but, its games look amazing. PC will have better graphics if you have a really good gaming PC, but it is not much differences. If you don't have a PC, of course PC is more important than gamming. You can at lease game a little with lower end PC. If you already have X360, totally a new GPU. Not sure about Dragon Age, but, Mass Effect is build with X360 in mind, so the control is really good. The menu system is deisgned with console in mind actually. millerlight89

yeah mass effect had a horrible framerate that was barely above playable. it was still extremely enjoyable.

[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]With that computer I would choose the 360 version.MaoTheChimp

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

I'm laughing at the irony here, as you flamed miller for the lack of sources or backing in his post, yet your answer is equally unsubstantiated.

For one thing, it depends entirely on what processor he has. If it's one of the Wolfdale, Clarksdale, or Conroe "Pentium Dual cores", then what you said is true. But if it's one of the older Pentium D's, then I would love to see it run DAO without horrendous stuttering, especially considering that my Athlon x2 @2.2GHz cannot perform this feat.

--EDIT-- Talk about irony. The Athlon x2 that I've got is a socket 939, which also happens to be my post count :shock:

[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

[QUOTE="Ikavnieks"] How, especially if it runs Crysis on high? It'll probably run most, if not all multiplatform games better than a console at a higher setting.

Miller, your constant disregard for peoples dilemmas are annoying me, you should stop posting false, biased and rude information (based on the other topics you have posted in besides this) We get it, But hey, I guess you'd just say that is 'The way I am' (terrible pun) So carry on, go around holding your head high, with those two 5870s, just remember the fact still remains that you are a giant douche.

Pentium dual cores can still handle games well, especially paired with a decent GPU (Even the 4650) Now BaryJayne, I recommend you try a few out for yourself, games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc... will run decently on that machine, far better than a console, Mass Effect and Dragon Age should be played on the PC, MW2 I would get on the 360, the screwed the PC version over hard, and the only positive really is the mouse and keyboard setup, which is great for FPS.

Ikavnieks

I'm laughing at the irony here, as you flamed miller for the lack of sources or backing in his post, yet your answer is equally unsubstantiated.

For one thing, it depends entirely on what processor he has. If it's one of the Wolfdale, Clarksdale, or Conroe "Pentium Dual cores", then what you said is true. But if it's one of the older Pentium D's, then I would love to see it run DAO without horrendous stuttering, especially considering that my Athlon x2 @2.2GHz cannot perform this feat.

--EDIT-- Talk about irony. The Athlon x2 that I've got is a socket 939, which also happens to be my post count :shock:

Xbox 360 would be best. Most new games would probably run fine at medium/high settings and low textures, but I don't think it would be worth it because of the resolution.

The 4650 is severly memory bandwidth limited. However, had you gotten a 4670, the story would be much different. The 4650, however is still a decent graphics card, but if you still can, return it and get a 4670 1 GB (should be around $70 on Newegg). I had one before getting my 5850, and it ran pretty awesomely. Many games ran very nicely at 60 frames per second like 1920 x 1080p like Call of Duty 4 (didn't use AA, didn't need it lol), Crysis at 1440 x 900, Far Cry 2 at 1600 x 900. The 4670 is much faster than the 4650 with much faster video memory. The 4650 more or less puts you on par with the 360 in terms of practicality since 360 games are optimized for the fixed hardware more so typically than a PC game. I think for most multiplatform games, either system will do the job, but I still think you'll get a bit better performance and playability from your PC. Mass Effect I know in particular when ported to the PC was highly optimized for PC graphics cards, got better graphics settings, not to mention a much better interface designed for the KB and mouse in mind. From what I've heard, the PC version is far superior to the 360 version.

The only game I can think of that you'd want to get for the 360 with your present config is GTA4 simply because it's horridly optimized for dual cores. Tweaking it to be on parity with the 360 version is possible, but would require a lot of work especially since it really wants a triple or quad core processor as opposed to a dual core.