Games for Windows - synonym for bad quality ?

first was halo 2 which run horribly on vista machines then came gears of war which is a great game but has been poorly ported by microsoft so it crashes all 5 minutes or wont run at all. and now viva pinata has the same issues as gow. its a shame i spent 50 euros for gow and can only run it with a crack from a russian warez site (it was even postet on epic forum site cause its the only way to run the game for a lot of users)

so i thinks with so many bugs and frustrated users games for windows wont live for long.

Eh?

Crysis, Bioshock, Sup Com, CoH, WiC........

I dont hate the branding - I kinda like it, though I dont like Games for Windows Live.

Hell if more GFW Special Edition tin cases keep comming out i'd encourage it. Mnnn tin.

There is also the possibility of your PC screwing with those games. Even if its the .exe file.
And you dont need to go to russian warez sites riddled with spyware, to get cracks. Hell avoid at all costs imo.

No.

It's not a synonym of bad quality.It sounds more like a commercial campaign to achieve equality with a wholly distinct market(Console world)."Bill Gates" always wanted to change the concept of the personal computers.When he created "Xbox",he proposed to all the "PC" owners to emigrate to a different entertaining system,imagined and created for "pc-users" only.

He flunked! :D

No.

It's not a synonym of bad quality.It sounds more like a commercial campaign to achieve equality with a wholly distinct market(Console world)."Bill Gates" always wanted to change the concept of the personal computers.When he created "Xbox",he proposed to all the "PC" owners to emigrate to a different entertaining system,imagined and created for "pc-users" only.

He flunked! :D

Rylsadar

The whole point of the Xbox most certainly was to turn PC developers to a system that copied a PC in architecture, and was easy to work with.

Instead it turned into a freakish barstard child, that was a fininacial disaster for MR Gates

Games for windows is just a lable on microsoft's ATTEMPT to standardize pc gaming.TeamR

Entirely true!

Which, depending on who you ask, isnt such a bad thing.TeamR

Yeah,but why the hell does "Windows Live" remind me of "Xbox Live"?!

Can anyone name any games for the pc in recent years that WEREN'T for windows?

It's a marketing slogan is all. That's life. We all know that Crysis pc is for windows, after all!

first was halo 2 which run horribly on vista machines then came gears of war which is a great game but has been poorly ported by microsoft so it crashes all 5 minutes or wont run at all. and now viva pinata has the same issues as gow. its a shame i spent 50 euros for gow and can only run it with a crack from a russian warez site (it was even postet on epic forum site cause its the only way to run the game for a lot of users)

so i thinks with so many bugs and frustrated users games for windows wont live for long.

crapdog

All those games worked fine for me and no crashes. Don't assume everyone has the same problem as you. There are problems with older versions of Spyware Doctor, Karpensky and ZoneAlarm.

Eh?

Crysis, Bioshock, Sup Com, CoH, WiC........

I dont hate the branding - I kinda like it, though I dont like Games for Windows Live.

Hell if more GFW Special Edition tin cases keep comming out i'd encourage it. Mnnn tin.

There is also the possibility of your PC screwing with those games. Even if its the .exe file.
And you dont need to go to russian warez sites riddled with spyware, to get cracks. Hell avoid at all costs imo.

skrat_01

actually i found that crack on the epic forum, and yes i meant games for windows LIVE, sry ma fault

There is actually an important destinction between Games for Windows and Games for Windows LIVE.

Games for Windows is just a stamp on the box that says "This game supports xBox 360 game pad". There are a couple of other things that a game developer must do to be able to put the stamp on, but they're less obvious. There is a list of this stuff on the Games for Windows website

Games for Windows LIVE means the game conforms to the Games for Windows stuff as well as using Microsofts online gaming network, which is a straight copy of xBox LIVE.

A lot of developers are going for this Games for Windows stuff because it's no real pain to do, but most seem to prefer to do their own online features and avoid LIVE like the plague because it is just that. LIVE is certainly too young to be any good yet but the idea is if you play xBox 360 and PC games, you can have one LIVE account and use it on both and talk to your xBox 360 friends while playing a PC game, and even play them with cross compatible games. So the idea is sound but I think developers are avoiding because you have to pay a subscription to get the extra features like cross compatible gaming. Maybe Microsoft will realise that PC gamers have had LIVE features for free for years on other services, and still do, and asking for money for their service is dumb, but you can never predict Microsoft.

Personally I've not had many issues with Gears of War appart from my save game dissapearing.

Have fun

You can have one LIVE account and use it on both and talk to your xBox 360 friends while playing a PC game, and even play them with cross compatible games.NosmoKing1984

Talk?! With a "Xbox 360" user that doesn't even know the significance of a keyboard?! Hell NOO!!

If in a near future,we start playing with "Xbox 360" users,you could possibly say goodbye to the "PC" platform.

"Xbox 360" derives from a childish concept of entertainment.Unlike consoles,the "PC" platform offers a different vision about entertainment.

the problem is that for GOW for instance you have to make an account via gfw live to play it and to receive updates (similar to steam) and the other problem is that gfw "inspects" your pc and sends information to microsoft. we also have many great apps already like xfire, all seeing eye or teamspeak to see and talk to our friends online or to find favourite servers.

btw i dont think there are many pc gamers who want to talk to xbox gamers:D

Talk?! With a "Xbox 360" user

Rylsadar

Yes I know, a scary concept but there are people that play PC and xBox 360 games I guess. Can't imagine the idea catching on though.

Have fun

Does "Windows Live" consume any additional "Cpu" power?

Does "Windows Live" consume any additional "Cpu" power?

Rylsadar

it's a part of the game, so no. and unless your computer struggles with Steam, it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway.

Does "Windows Live" consume any additional "Cpu" power?

Rylsadar

no, but it consumes your nerves

I like how so many things are blamed on MS cause its easy. MS is not destroying PC gaming it is advertising it so get over it, yes we all know Windows has and always will have problems...who gives a crap. And to clarify something Gears of War was not ported over to PC by MS...do some god damn research. It was made by a polish company which Epic aquired called People Can Fly. These are the guys that made Painkiller, they also had help from Epic people so if its anybodys fault that the game is not what it should be blame those two companies. Oh a little tidbit of interesting info the new mp maps that are in the game were not made by Epic they were made by People Can Fly and I believe that they will make additional online things if there ever are any.

I like how so many things are blamed on MS cause its easy.rzepak

I don't care about "Microsoft",but i feel concerned about the way they manipulate the "PC" platform.

Yeah, most games are for Windows. So just because it says it on the box...idk, it's just on the box. Most of the, "Games for Windows." titles I have played, have been pretty stellar actually. 3 games does not vault it into your "synonym for bad quality" status. Sorry, it just bugs me when people over generalize, and overstate a problem. Maybe tone it down to, "I have played a few of these games that are Games for Windows, and they have had some issues. Anyone else noticed this with these particular titles?" as opposed to..."I have played these games and that must mean that "Games for Windows" are all awful. Get my drift?jazilla

you should read the whole thread before beeing the smart ass. we talk about gfw LIVE and there are only 3 games which run with it. and all 3 of them cause similar problems.