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#1 ChotaZorro
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Now I know that nothing beats a desktop for gaming, but I'll be moving around quite a bit and I'm thinking of buying a gaming laptop. These are the specs of my current desktop:

Intel Core2Duo E6600
4 GB RAM DDR2
ATI Radeon HD4870 1 GB

I've had this desktop for almost 3 years and it can still handle most new games on medium-high settings with stable framerate.

The games I'm looking to play are BF3, MW3, Arkham City, RAGE, etc. mostly upcoming games and I would like to buy a gaming laptop which can handle those aforementioned games and most games coming next year on at least medium-high settings. I'm sure my current desktop will be able to handle them easily on medium settings.

I'm thinking of getting a laptop with these specs:

Intel Core i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz, 6 MB L3 Cache, up to 2.90 GHz)
nVidia GeForce GT 555M (1GB GDDR5)
8 GB DDR3

These specs seem considerably better than my current desktop but from what I understand it's nowhere near as powerful as its desktop equivalent. So my question is: if I get a laptop with those specs, compared to my desktop, what kind of performance should I expect? Better than my desktop? Same as my desktop? Worse than my desktop? Thanks in advance.

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#2 hitman6actual
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Now I know that nothing beats a desktop for gaming, but I'll be moving around quite a bit and I'm thinking of buying a gaming laptop. These are the specs of my current desktop:

Intel Core2Duo E6600
4 GB RAM DDR2
ATI Radeon HD4870 1 GB

I've had this desktop for almost 3 years and it can still handle most new games on medium-high settings with stable framerate.

The games I'm looking to play are BF3, MW3, Arkham City, RAGE, etc. mostly upcoming games and I would like to buy a gaming laptop which can handle those aforementioned games and most games coming next year on at least medium-high settings. I'm sure my current desktop will be able to handle them easily on medium settings.

I'm thinking of getting a laptop with these specs:

Intel Core i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz, 6 MB L3 Cache, up to 2.90 GHz)
nVidia GeForce GT 555M (1GB GDDR5)
8 GB DDR3

These specs seem considerably better than my current desktop but from what I understand it's nowhere near as powerful as its desktop equivalent. So my question is: if I get a laptop with those specs, compared to my desktop, what kind of performance should I expect? Better than my desktop? Same as my desktop? Worse than my desktop? Thanks in advance.

ChotaZorro

A bit worse than your desktop. The GT 555m is a little weak, but at lower resolutions you'll be ok with it. If I was you I would buy this from Sager: http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_customed&model_name=NP8170 Get at least the GTX 560m with it and it'll run more or less anything you throw at it pretty well.

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Thanks for the reply. Is there a huge performance difference in GT 555m and GTX 560m? Also what's the AMD equivalent for GTX 560m? So suppose I get a laptop with GTX 560m and the rest of the specs same as the laptop specs I listed above, would I be able to play BF3/MW3 smoothly on medium settings?

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#4 hitman6actual
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Thanks for the reply. Is there a huge performance difference in GT 555m and GTX 560m? Also what's the AMD equivalent for GTX 560m? So suppose I get a laptop with GTX 560m and the rest of the specs same as the laptop specs I listed above, would I be able to play BF3/MW3 smoothly on medium settings?

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Definitely. I have seen both the GTX 560m and the 555 in action side by side with the 555 at 1333 x 768 and the GTX 560m at 1080p. I have a laptop with the 560m and my brother has one with the 555 in it. We ran a test on the haven benchmark at fairly low settings at 720P and I stomped his computer throughout the test by as little as 10 fps ( I was at 32 and he was at 22) and as much as 20 fps. We literally have the same specs, except his computer has a crappy Alienware screen at low resolution, and I have the screen on the laptop I posted above at 1080p. We've also played BFBC: 2 side by side and I can barely stand to watch him play it at a dismal 25 to 30 fps on such low resolution, while I am playing the same game with higher settings (all high except for AA and AF) at 1080p getting a good 35 to 55 fps. From my real life experience the GTX 560m is the better GPU by a long shot. The AMD equivalent is probably the 5870m which is a tiny bit slower, and the 6950m which is a tiny bit faster.
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#5 JigglyWiggly_
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i have a laptop with a 560m, about equiv performance to a 4850. ocs nice

You may want a gtx 580m, equiv to a 560ti

6990m is a bit faster and cheaper. It is an underclocked 6870.

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[QUOTE="ChotaZorro"]

Thanks for the reply. Is there a huge performance difference in GT 555m and GTX 560m? Also what's the AMD equivalent for GTX 560m? So suppose I get a laptop with GTX 560m and the rest of the specs same as the laptop specs I listed above, would I be able to play BF3/MW3 smoothly on medium settings?

hitman6actual
Definitely. I have seen both the GTX 560m and the 555 in action side by side with the 555 at 1333 x 768 and the GTX 560m at 1080p. I have a laptop with the 560m and my brother has one with the 555 in it. We ran a test on the haven benchmark at fairly low settings at 720P and I stomped his computer throughout the test by as little as 10 fps ( I was at 32 and he was at 22) and as much as 20 fps. We literally have the same specs, except his computer has a crappy Alienware screen at low resolution, and I have the screen on the laptop I posted above at 1080p. We've also played BFBC: 2 side by side and I can barely stand to watch him play it at a dismal 25 to 30 fps on such low resolution, while I am playing the same game with higher settings (all high except for AA and AF) at 1080p getting a good 35 to 55 fps. From my real life experience the GTX 560m is the better GPU by a long shot. The AMD equivalent is probably the 5870m which is a tiny bit slower, and the 6950m which is a tiny bit faster.

Wow, that's a considerably huge difference. So my understanding is, GTX 580m is the best laptop video card right now? And how is that compared to GTX 560m? I know AMD video card would be cheaper, but I'm leaning more towards getting an nVidia.

i have a laptop with a 560m, about equiv performance to a 4850. ocs nice

You may want a gtx 580m, equiv to a 560ti

6990m is a bit faster and cheaper. It is an underclocked 6870.

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Is 6990m the best AMD video card available right now? And GTX 580m is equivalent to desktop version of 560 TI??
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#7 JigglyWiggly_
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Yes, and yes. The 6990m is better than 580m, yes to 560ti.
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Yes, and yes. The 6990m is better than 580m, yes to 560ti.JigglyWiggly_
Wow, then the 580m and 6990m are definitely beasts for a laptop. So what's your laptop? You mainly game on your PC I assume, but is your laptop stable at gaming?
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#9 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Yes, and yes. The 6990m is better than 580m, yes to 560ti.ChotaZorro
Wow, then the 580m and 6990m are definitely beasts for a laptop. So what's your laptop? You mainly game on your PC I assume, but is your laptop stable at gaming?

Very. Model: np8130 Came with an i7 2630qm, which is ok... I replaced it with a 2720 ES which has 8 megs of cache compared to the 6 on the retail. I also got it for the same price as my 2630qm, by that I mean I sold my 2630qm at the same price I got my 2720 :) 560m 8 gigs of ddr3 500 gig seagate momentus I took the dvd drive out for another HD and the dvd drive in an enclosure. I have been using my laptop a lot now since I keep moving around. I recommend, but gpu performance on the 560m can be desirable at times.
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Nice, those are brilliant specs! So what kind of games have you thrown on your laptop and how's the performance?
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F1 2011, mostly max 60+fps Dirt 3 high 60+fps COD4/CSS + 120fps+ Crysis 2 1080p ~30fps, 720p 60+fps BF3 Beta 60+fps on 1280x720, 35ish fps on 1080p, both on medium.
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That's great! Sager is a custom laptop brand am I right? They don't have those in Thailand. So I'll be stuck with Toshiba, Lenovo, or HP. :(
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#13 JigglyWiggly_
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Sager isn't really custom. They sell relabeled Clevo laptops, which are then sold by resellers like Xotic PC(I bought mine here) or Malibal. I got it pretty cheap, 1100$, not saying that's cheap, just cheap for what it has to offer.
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That is indeed pretty cheap for its specs!
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my friend got one of thoes Sagers with the 6990 in it, plays the BF3 beta on ultra/high with 30fps min, and it only gets faster from there. great card.

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my friend got one of thoes Sagers with the 6990 in it, plays the BF3 beta on ultra/high with 30fps min, and it only gets faster from there. great card.

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Impressive! I'm nVidia fanboy so I want to get nVidia card, but the performance in the HD 68xx and 69xx seem to be very good. Are AMD drivers for laptop any good compared to nVidia drivers?
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[QUOTE="theshadowhunter"]

my friend got one of thoes Sagers with the 6990 in it, plays the BF3 beta on ultra/high with 30fps min, and it only gets faster from there. great card.

ChotaZorro

Impressive! I'm nVidia fanboy so I want to get nVidia card, but the performance in the HD 68xx and 69xx seem to be very good. Are AMD drivers for laptop any good compared to nVidia drivers?

you can convert any desktop driver to a laptop driver. We used the latest driver that just came out for BF3 for desktops on this laptop. We just had to find a modified .INF file and it worked great. Both Nvidia and AMD are like this, you can use modified desktop drivers on them if they dont officially release the driver for laptops. Going from 11.4 to this 11.10 beta for BF3 made his framerate from 20 or less FPS to 30+ FPS. Also ATI releases desktop and laptop drivers on a monthly basis.

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#18 ChotaZorro
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[QUOTE="ChotaZorro"][QUOTE="theshadowhunter"]

my friend got one of thoes Sagers with the 6990 in it, plays the BF3 beta on ultra/high with 30fps min, and it only gets faster from there. great card.

theshadowhunter

Impressive! I'm nVidia fanboy so I want to get nVidia card, but the performance in the HD 68xx and 69xx seem to be very good. Are AMD drivers for laptop any good compared to nVidia drivers?

you can convert any desktop driver to a laptop driver. We used the latest driver that just came out for BF3 for desktops on this laptop. We just had to find a modified .INF file and it worked great. Both Nvidia and AMD are like this, you can use modified desktop drivers on them if they dont officially release the driver for laptops. Going from 11.4 to this 11.10 beta for BF3 made his framerate from 20 or less FPS to 30+ FPS. Also ATI releases desktop and laptop drivers on a monthly basis.

Nice! That sounds good. Assuming the final version should be better optimized and drivers would be better as well so he will get better perfromance. BTW, why is it that Toshiba and Lenovo laptops are so darn expensive? I mean I'm getting better specs with Sager for a much lower price!