GeForce 9600 GSO, The tale of two cards

I have decent computer tech knowledge but I would rather get a expert opinion on which of these 2 models I should get. Both are in my price range to a degree and for the games I play and future games I will play I hear they are both good. But which is better.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

Thats the PNY Verto NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO overclocked version with DDR3 768MB

Then you got this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

The XFX GeForce 9600 GSO.

They both seem to have similaritys obviously but then there seems to be some differences with one having ddr2 and the other being ddr3. I am not much the video card wiz so I come to you guys with what you think is better. And for the record these are the cards I am looking at. I don't want suggestions on other cards because my budget is tight but just tight enough to get either one. Unless said card is leaps and bounds better for the price. Anyways help me understand which card is better.

I have decent computer tech knowledge but I would rather get a expert opinion on which of these 2 models I should get. Both are in my price range to a degree and for the games I play and future games I will play I hear they are both good. But which is better.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

Thats the PNY Verto NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO overclocked version with DDR3 768MB

Then you got this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

The XFX GeForce 9600 GSO.

They both seem to have similaritys obviously but then there seems to be some differences with one having ddr2 and the other being ddr3. I am not much the video card wiz so I come to you guys with what you think is better. And for the record these are the cards I am looking at. I don't want suggestions on other cards because my budget is tight but just tight enough to get either one. Unless said card is leaps and bounds better for the price. Anyways help me understand which card is better.

Emosupside

oops my bad sorry for the double link. Here is the XFX card link

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4128445&Sku=P450-9616

[QUOTE="Emosupside"]

I have decent computer tech knowledge but I would rather get a expert opinion on which of these 2 models I should get. Both are in my price range to a degree and for the games I play and future games I will play I hear they are both good. But which is better.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

Thats the PNY Verto NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO overclocked version with DDR3 768MB

Then you got this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

The XFX GeForce 9600 GSO.

They both seem to have similaritys obviously but then there seems to be some differences with one having ddr2 and the other being ddr3. I am not much the video card wiz so I come to you guys with what you think is better. And for the record these are the cards I am looking at. I don't want suggestions on other cards because my budget is tight but just tight enough to get either one. Unless said card is leaps and bounds better for the price. Anyways help me understand which card is better.

Emosupside

oops my bad sorry for the double link. Here is the XFX card link

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4128445&Sku=P450-9616

[QUOTE="Emosupside"][QUOTE="Emosupside"]

I have decent computer tech knowledge but I would rather get a expert opinion on which of these 2 models I should get. Both are in my price range to a degree and for the games I play and future games I will play I hear they are both good. But which is better.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

Thats the PNY Verto NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO overclocked version with DDR3 768MB

Then you got this

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8968101&productCategoryId=abcat0507002&type=product&id=1217029964838

The XFX GeForce 9600 GSO.

They both seem to have similaritys obviously but then there seems to be some differences with one having ddr2 and the other being ddr3. I am not much the video card wiz so I come to you guys with what you think is better. And for the record these are the cards I am looking at. I don't want suggestions on other cards because my budget is tight but just tight enough to get either one. Unless said card is leaps and bounds better for the price. Anyways help me understand which card is better.

swehunt

oops my bad sorry for the double link. Here is the XFX card link

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4128445&Sku=P450-9616

thats neat, Still looking for some explanation between the two cards

[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="Emosupside"]

oops my bad sorry for the double link. Here is the XFX card link

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4128445&Sku=P450-9616

Emosupside

thats neat, Still looking for some explanation between the two cards

[QUOTE="Emosupside"][QUOTE="swehunt"] I think you should get the HD4670 one. ;)swehunt

thats neat, Still looking for some explanation between the two cards

I looked up the 4670 and there are a lot of different models with different prices which is nice, I will look into them some more.

9600GSO & both aren't so good 4670 you would be given wrong information else but if you want to be honest. if you have money. get on some website like newegg.com and buy ur self a 8800GTS for 85$ AFTER 10$ MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127328&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-MSI-_-14127328
because 8800GTS Is the rival to 9800GT

you watn to know the story ? more detailed said by people who know benchmark lot ?!
8600GT = 7600GT+ 5% (or Overclocked 7600GT)
4670 = Two 8600GT in performances
8800Gt = Three 8600GT in peformances
8800GTS =+5% then 8800GT as minimum
and 9600GSO IS about TWO 8600GT as wellmarcthpro

9600GSO & both aren't so good 4670 you would be given wrong information else but if you want to be honest. if you have money. get on some website like newegg.com and buy ur self a 8800GTS for 85$ AFTER 10$ MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127328&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Video+Cards-_-MSI-_-14127328
because 8800GTS Is the rival to 9800GT

you watn to know the story ? more detailed said by people who know benchmark lot ?!
8600GT = 7600GT+ 5% (or Overclocked 7600GT)
4670 = Two 8600GT in performances
8800Gt = Three 8600GT in peformances
8800GTS =+5% then 8800GT as minimum
and 9600GSO IS about TWO 8600GT as wellmarcthpro

matchpro you are out on deep water. :P

The 9600GSO and the 8800GS is the same card but with diffrent memory. (ahw yes... ...another re-branded card from nVidia. :( )

Im sorry I was a bit lazey before and didn't provide some benchmarks at the first post but the time was 03:45 or something here should have been asleep a long time ago.

There are a bunch of benchmarks to proove that HD4670 and 9600gso perform very simular i can get you a few here.

Here is a direct comarison for starting with OC3D
HD4670 vs. 9600GSO

Anandtech HD4670 vs. 9600GSO

HOThardware's review show very simular to the rest, HD4670 and 9600GSO perform much alike.

This isn't the only benchmarks, there are some more if it's in anyones intrest to see thoose also.

The 768mb version perform sligthly better than the 384mb 9600GSO remember that.

As we know the 8800GS perform very simular to the HD3850 also, we know the HD3850 perform just under or the same as HD4670.

So here you are = hd4670 vs. 9600GSO much alike performance wise. The HD4670 have the cooler, smaler and draws less power, but what it all comes down to is the prize of what youre paying, this will set the bang for buck.

ah thx you. swehunt i'm glad to see you heremarcthpro

Yup, the 8800gts/gt would be somewhat a bit faster if you can find one in the prize range.

you where the only one to bring me support that often :D mate together we rule lol
two head is better then one head sometime ;) it would be fool to neglate that even corporation know that marcthpro

[QUOTE="marcthpro"]you where the only one to bring me support that often :D mate together we rule lol
two head is better then one head sometime ;) it would be fool to neglate that even corporation know that swehunt

you sure spam alot of message instead edit. it good to have a debate in deed but it more like a support a copperation to not miss information
it why forum exist else it would be just called AskMarcthpro Or AskSwehunt as forum Thread lol!! that would be funny but borring and a trouble lol here lot of guy with as much info as us here i vcan count about 50 user on gamespot who as good information and are reliable to build pc that include us
at last as ACTIVE there could be 100-200 but posting only once a month i just notice them and put them in wordpad (people on gamespot who know lot)


but not in the same category or same product there lot of product and benchmark to see and you sure do have lot of information
i statred back to 2008 August to send lot of message then i recently see someone called Swehunt doing good job into informate people what a relief it was i can be more lazy into information ;) but not the case when i'm alone if i doesn't give the smooth talk and the information from Dozen of benchmark who will do ?
no one ? will take a week ? before someone as skilled as us seen the post and reply ? we are not omnipresence everyone can get is proffesional
and if people like us didn't exist it would be chaos there a good reason i belive we know that much is because we are having the information to give it
there people with lot of information who doesn't share it often such as few mate i know from the gamespot pc build union they rather gaming more and have job
so they can't do everthing. but they can tell me the information and vice versa i spread them if i'm enough skilled to talk about it or if you are lol

someone as information to say that contradict us it better i was often in past into error by look into only one benchmark you must look 5-7 to reconfirmate the benchmark people won't do all the job but without them it would be the hell to informate user how to build there pc or how to build our pc in the future if we know how to build one we know how to make them one some are less skilled some are more skilled not to insult anyone or to brag but it what i think or so

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MSI GeForce 8800 GTS NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC Video Card

marcthpro

Yeah a single thread for one peoples own opinion would be really bad, the swehunt/martchpro thread would be a totaly disaster, i don't know ewrything, ask me about C++ and i'll quite fast go numb. (Im stupid when it comes to programming.) but with a lot of people some one sure will know that also.

My older bro is a Data Programmer and my old'est brother had a small PC buildig company (he is also a computer teacher.), this is from where i got my intrest. and one can learn just as much by browsing theese pages/ other hardware sites just as one can learn out, this is the good thing about theese forums.

It's about what kind of intrests one got, i find buildig PC and taking on PC error is fun, this is why i learn. (you also i guess.)

Some people know all about HarlyDavidson MC's and put a good amount of time on it, it's just the same for us people but with PC's.

On GS forums it's mostly about what components people need to play their games (Obviously this is a gaming site.), and it's a good thing some folks are here to guide theese people.

I havn't got any sleep tonigth, just drove my GF to her work downtown, i need to find some sleep myself before i go to my job.

Sorry TC for the offtopic.

Tc you can get a 9800GT for $115 or a 9800GTX for $150.

And 8800GTS85$ who is supperior to 9800GT in performances for gaming by a bit unless you perfrom overclocking of 9800GT which as more headroom for overclock then is sibling the 8800GTs / GTXhttp://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gigabyte_9800gt/6.htm

Rewvier Word on page 5

Great googly moogly! The Gigabyte 9800GT has some game. The little 9800GT is no doubt helped by the Zalman cooler that keeps temperatures down. I figured I might as well go for broke with the added voltage offered in the Gamer HUD and pushed the needle to 1.4 volts. The clock speeds kept scaling upwards until I finally landed at 787MHz on the core (up from 600MHz), 1075MHz on the memory and 1863MHz on the shader cores. These clock speeds are higher than any of the 8800GT video cards that Overclockersclub has tested and represents increases of 24% on the GPU core, 16% on the memory and close to 20% on the shaders. Not too bad if I say so myself. At this level of performance, there were nice increases in all of the benchmarks used. Why the comparison to the 8800GT? Because the 9800GT is the basically the same card.marcthpro

What are you talking about the 9800GT is essentially an 8800GT that clearly out performs the 8800GTS that you linked to.

No just no this is a reference for you GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB Roundup and 8800 GT Performance Preview . When you compare it look at both MSI OC cards their is a 20 FPS increase with the 8800GT over your GTS you can also see the geforce 88GTS 320MB on both benchmarks. this doesn't even show the beating of newer games like crysis, gta4 ,stalker clearsky, supcom. The beating will just get worse as the year goes on.Forget that this card even exists its garbage just let go.