Getting a 32 inch tomorrow, lil help!

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looking at the KDL-32XBR9, seems to have all capabilities im looking for. but i've heard it has audio problems, anyone that own one able to confirm or deny?

anyone know of a better 32"?

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[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

looking at the KDL-32XBR9, seems to have all capabilities im looking for. but i've heard it has audio problems, anyone that own one able to confirm or deny?

anyone know of a better 32"?

most all hdtvs have bad audio. then again alot of those people reviewing their new tvs are used to surround sound or expect great sound from the tvs speakers. how much is that tv. and whats your price range?
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#3 joshua2424
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[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

looking at the KDL-32XBR9, seems to have all capabilities im looking for. but i've heard it has audio problems, anyone that own one able to confirm or deny?

anyone know of a better 32"?

monson21502

most all hdtvs have bad audio. then again alot of those people reviewing their new tvs are used to surround sound or expect great sound from the tvs speakers. how much is that tv. and whats your price range?

saw it online for $550-600. my range is about that, definately no more.

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With that price range I would definitely recommend Samsung Model: LN32B360C5D. Superb picture quality for 720p and has great digital audio for a HDTV. Plus it's on sale at bestbuy for $429.

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With that price range I would definitely recommend Samsung Model: LN32B360C5D. Superb picture quality for 720p and has great digital audio for a HDTV. Plus it's on sale at bestbuy for $429.

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not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

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[QUOTE="theintrospect79"]

With that price range I would definitely recommend Samsung Model: LN32B360C5D. Superb picture quality for 720p and has great digital audio for a HDTV. Plus it's on sale at bestbuy for $429.

joshua2424

not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p

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[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

[QUOTE="theintrospect79"]

With that price range I would definitely recommend Samsung Model: LN32B360C5D. Superb picture quality for 720p and has great digital audio for a HDTV. Plus it's on sale at bestbuy for $429.

theintrospect79

not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p

really? that sucks because on my panasonic viera 46" i can really tell when i put MGS4 in... i will have to take that into consideration, thanks for the heads up.

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[QUOTE="theintrospect79"]

[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

joshua2424

With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p

really? that sucks because on my panasonic viera 46" i can really tell when i put MGS4 in... i will have to take that into consideration, thanks for the heads up.

MGS4 is 720p.
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#9 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

[QUOTE="theintrospect79"]

With that price range I would definitely recommend Samsung Model: LN32B360C5D. Superb picture quality for 720p and has great digital audio for a HDTV. Plus it's on sale at bestbuy for $429.

theintrospect79

not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p



As mentioned in the other thread you posted at, this is wrong. The difference between 720p and 1080p is the same at 22" as it is at 100". Screen size alone does not make a difference as resolution is fixed.

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#10 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="theintrospect79"]

[QUOTE="joshua2424"]

not really willing to settle for 720p :/ i got my dad paying for about $350 of it :D

joshua2424

With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p

really? that sucks because on my panasonic viera 46" i can really tell when i put MGS4 in... i will have to take that into consideration, thanks for the heads up.



No, he is wrong, but MGS4 is not 1080p anyway.

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i think there is a 32' samsung 1080p its model is LA32B530 or something like that it's for 600$..but really in 32' tv's the difference is not that big so if you want get a 720p samsung la32b450 it's so good my friend has one..but my advice is stick with samsungs ther are the best i have a 42' 1080p it's superamazng..ofcourse along with panasonics you can't go wrong with both of them
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i think there is a 32' samsung 1080p its model is ln32b650 or something like that it's for 600$..but really in 32' tv's the difference is not that big so if you want get a 720p samsung la32b450 it's so good my friend has one..but my advice is stick with samsungs ther are the best i have a 42' 1080p it's superamazng..ofcourse along with panasonics you can't go wrong with both of themKaY_86


A 22" 1080p TVwill look the same and is no different to a 100" 1080p TV (resolution terms). The size of the TV itself really has nothing to do with it. Its the viewing distance that matters.

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[QUOTE="KaY_86"]i think there is a 32' samsung 1080p its model is ln32b650 or something like that it's for 600$..but really in 32' tv's the difference is not that big so if you want get a 720p samsung la32b450 it's so good my friend has one..but my advice is stick with samsungs ther are the best i have a 42' 1080p it's superamazng..ofcourse along with panasonics you can't go wrong with both of themshawty1984



A 22" 1080p TVwill look the same and is no different to a 100" 1080p TV (resolution terms). The size of the TV itself really has nothing to do with it. Its the viewing distance that matters.

i am talking about the DIFFERENCE between the two resolutions not the resolution itself..the difference is more clear with bigger screens but a 32' is not that big to notice the difference..again i am saying the difference which means that i know that they don't look the same!
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="KaY_86"]i think there is a 32' samsung 1080p its model is ln32b650 or something like that it's for 600$..but really in 32' tv's the difference is not that big so if you want get a 720p samsung la32b450 it's so good my friend has one..but my advice is stick with samsungs ther are the best i have a 42' 1080p it's superamazng..ofcourse along with panasonics you can't go wrong with both of themKaY_86



A 22" 1080p TVwill look the same and is no different to a 100" 1080p TV (resolution terms). The size of the TV itself really has nothing to do with it. Its the viewing distance that matters.

i am talking about the DIFFERENCE between the two resolutions not the resolution itself..the difference is more clear with bigger screens but a 32' is not that big to notice the difference..again i am saying the difference which means that i know that they don't look the same!



I know you are, Im also telling you size of the TV is pretty much irelvant. The difference between 720p and 1080p at 22" is the same as it is at 100". The difference is not more clear with bigger screens as resolutions are fixed and do not change. You could have a 200" TV, it still wouldnt look any better to any other 1080p TV and the difference between 720p and 1080p at that size is just the same as at any other size.

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I wish we could make a sticky on this subject. Once and for all, a resolution spec alone means nothing. Resolution must be spoken of with size of the TV and the distance you are going to watch that said size TV. The limit here is the human eye. 1080p on a 22" set IS useless if you are going to watch that 22" set from 5' away as your eyes will not be able to discern the difference between 720p or 1080p on that size set from that distance. Here is a graph that plainly lists the size of a televisions and when certain resolutions are discernible from a set distance: http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html
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[QUOTE="KaY_86"][QUOTE="shawty1984"]

A 22" 1080p TVwill look the same and is no different to a 100" 1080p TV (resolution terms). The size of the TV itself really has nothing to do with it. Its the viewing distance that matters.

shawty1984

i am talking about the DIFFERENCE between the two resolutions not the resolution itself..the difference is more clear with bigger screens but a 32' is not that big to notice the difference..again i am saying the difference which means that i know that they don't look the same!



I know you are, Im also telling you size of the TV is pretty much irelvant. The difference between 720p and 1080p at 22" is the same as it is at 100". The difference is not more clear with bigger screens as resolutions are fixed and do not change. You could have a 200" TV, it still wouldnt look any better to any other 1080p TV and the difference between 720p and 1080p at that size is just the same as at any other size.

Umm no. Screen Size + Viewing Distance = Potential for discernable difference. Screen size is a key factor in the equation, therefor not irrelevent.

And I can assure you, at the avg viewing distance of 6-8ft, you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 100 inch screen, but not a 22".

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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="KaY_86"] i am talking about the DIFFERENCE between the two resolutions not the resolution itself..the difference is more clear with bigger screens but a 32' is not that big to notice the difference..again i am saying the difference which means that i know that they don't look the same!kryloc



I know you are, Im also telling you size of the TV is pretty much irelvant. The difference between 720p and 1080p at 22" is the same as it is at 100". The difference is not more clear with bigger screens as resolutions are fixed and do not change. You could have a 200" TV, it still wouldnt look any better to any other 1080p TV and the difference between 720p and 1080p at that size is just the same as at any other size.

Umm no. Screen Size + Viewing Distance = Potential for discernable difference. Screen size is a key factor in the equation, therefor not irrelevent.

And I can assure you, at the avg viewing distance of 6-8ft, you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 100 inch screen, but not a 22".



Why does this always come up.

Im talking about size screen alone as everybody loves to throw around random numbers making stuff up. TV size alone makes no difference to resolution.A 1080p 22" TV wikll look exactly the same as a 100" 1080p TV if both are viewed from the correct distance, TV size alone makes no difference as a small screen will look exactly the same as a large screen as the resolution would be the same. Why do I have to point this out in every arument on this subject.

There is no average viewing distance. Everyone is different. People view from bedrooms, kitchens and living rooms of all shapes and sizes. Whats average to you, would not be average to someone else. Saying the average viewing distance is 6-8ft is pretty silly. Regardless, we were never talking about averages, again, this always comes up in these arguments when people dont know whatthey are talking about, its so annoying. Why cant people just understand that a 22" 1080p TV is exactly the same resolution wise as a 100" 1080p TV and will look exactly the same if both are viewed from the correct distance.

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#18 rastan
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I think you are both saying the same thing. "Screen Size + Viewing Distance = Potential for discernable difference" is just another way of saying "A 1080p 22" TV will look exactly the same as a 100" 1080p TV if both are viewed from the correct distance." The key is that a resolution figure alone means nothing without mentioning screen size and viewing distance. As for average distance, it doesn't matter if it's average to you as it is an average of everybody. All it really tells you is the average distance people watch their TV's from and stating something like "at the average viewing distance of 6'-8', 1080p makes no difference from 720p in a 32" set" means more than someone just saying you don't need 1080p unless you are buying a 50" TV.
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[QUOTE="kryloc"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

I know you are, Im also telling you size of the TV is pretty much irelvant. The difference between 720p and 1080p at 22" is the same as it is at 100". The difference is not more clear with bigger screens as resolutions are fixed and do not change. You could have a 200" TV, it still wouldnt look any better to any other 1080p TV and the difference between 720p and 1080p at that size is just the same as at any other size.

shawty1984

Umm no. Screen Size + Viewing Distance = Potential for discernable difference. Screen size is a key factor in the equation, therefor not irrelevent.

And I can assure you, at the avg viewing distance of 6-8ft, you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 100 inch screen, but not a 22".



Why does this always come up.

Im talking about size screen alone as everybody loves to throw around random numbers making stuff up. TV size alone makes no difference to resolution.A 1080p 22" TV wikll look exactly the same as a 100" 1080p TV if both are viewed from the correct distance, TV size alone makes no difference as a small screen will look exactly the same as a large screen as the resolution would be the same. Why do I have to point this out in every arument on this subject.

There is no average viewing distance. Everyone is different. People view from bedrooms, kitchens and living rooms of all shapes and sizes. Whats average to you, would not be average to someone else. Saying the average viewing distance is 6-8ft is pretty silly. Regardless, we were never talking about averages, again, this always comes up in these arguments when people dont know whatthey are talking about, its so annoying. Why cant people just understand that a 22" 1080p TV is exactly the same resolution wise as a 100" 1080p TV and will look exactly the same if both are viewed from the correct distance.

Sorry, but you really should stop spreading your half-truths and misinformation.

Average is what is given for the typical household. And is a baseline for people to grasp an understanding.

Screen Size matters, as much as resolution and viewing distance. You keep spouting it doesn't matter, but it's part of the formula. What would the theory of realitivity be if there was no Mass?

No one is making anything up btw, these are well documented facts and figures. Will there always be some variables to real life? Yes. But that doesn't mean we throw everything away that can help someone make a wise, and more economical decision.

Your problem is that you respond to someone that brings up a valid point, and attack it from only one point. You aren't contributing to the discussion, and infact, you're hindering by only stating misleading and one-sided information.

So please, do everyone a favor, and just stop.

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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="kryloc"]

Umm no. Screen Size + Viewing Distance = Potential for discernable difference. Screen size is a key factor in the equation, therefor not irrelevent.

And I can assure you, at the avg viewing distance of 6-8ft, you can tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 100 inch screen, but not a 22".

kryloc



Why does this always come up.

Im talking about size screen alone as everybody loves to throw around random numbers making stuff up. TV size alone makes no difference to resolution.A 1080p 22" TV wikll look exactly the same as a 100" 1080p TV if both are viewed from the correct distance, TV size alone makes no difference as a small screen will look exactly the same as a large screen as the resolution would be the same. Why do I have to point this out in every arument on this subject.

There is no average viewing distance. Everyone is different. People view from bedrooms, kitchens and living rooms of all shapes and sizes. Whats average to you, would not be average to someone else. Saying the average viewing distance is 6-8ft is pretty silly. Regardless, we were never talking about averages, again, this always comes up in these arguments when people dont know whatthey are talking about, its so annoying. Why cant people just understand that a 22" 1080p TV is exactly the same resolution wise as a 100" 1080p TV and will look exactly the same if both are viewed from the correct distance.

Sorry, but you really should stop spreading your half-truths and misinformation.

Average is what is given for the typical household. And is a baseline for people to grasp an understanding.

Screen Size matters, as much as resolution and viewing distance. You keep spouting it doesn't matter, but it's part of the formula. What would the theory of realitivity be if there was no Mass?

No one is making anything up btw, these are well documented facts and figures. Will there always be some variables to real life? Yes. But that doesn't mean we throw everything away that can help someone make a wise, and more economical decision.

Your problem is that you respond to someone that brings up a valid point, and attack it from only one point. You aren't contributing to the discussion, and infact, you're hindering by only stating misleading and one-sided information.

So please, do everyone a favor, and just stop.



I have never spread half truths and or misinformation.

There is no average, how many times does this have to be said. Unless you have polled every household int he world and worked the formula to average the distance, then any quote mentioning an average is just plain silly. It would make more sense of dropping the average and just asking the person what their viewing distance is.

Yes screen size matters, in relation to viewing distance. Screen size alone does not matter. It grinds on me that I have to keep repeating this. Im sick of people saying 32" is pointless for 1080p. Such a statement is so false, taking a TV size and then saying its no good is plain silly and stupid because the size of the screen itself does not affect resolution. Hence why screen size itself is irrelevant, please can you understand this?

Ill stop nothing until people stop posting false information. A resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on a 22" screen or a 100" screen. Resolution is fixed and does not change due to screen size, I wish people would stop with the myth that 1080p is only good for 50"+ screens, that is total nonsense.

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[QUOTE="kryloc"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Why does this always come up.

Im talking about size screen alone as everybody loves to throw around random numbers making stuff up. TV size alone makes no difference to resolution.A 1080p 22" TV wikll look exactly the same as a 100" 1080p TV if both are viewed from the correct distance, TV size alone makes no difference as a small screen will look exactly the same as a large screen as the resolution would be the same. Why do I have to point this out in every arument on this subject.

There is no average viewing distance. Everyone is different. People view from bedrooms, kitchens and living rooms of all shapes and sizes. Whats average to you, would not be average to someone else. Saying the average viewing distance is 6-8ft is pretty silly. Regardless, we were never talking about averages, again, this always comes up in these arguments when people dont know whatthey are talking about, its so annoying. Why cant people just understand that a 22" 1080p TV is exactly the same resolution wise as a 100" 1080p TV and will look exactly the same if both are viewed from the correct distance.

shawty1984

Sorry, but you really should stop spreading your half-truths and misinformation.

Average is what is given for the typical household. And is a baseline for people to grasp an understanding.

Screen Size matters, as much as resolution and viewing distance. You keep spouting it doesn't matter, but it's part of the formula. What would the theory of realitivity be if there was no Mass?

No one is making anything up btw, these are well documented facts and figures. Will there always be some variables to real life? Yes. But that doesn't mean we throw everything away that can help someone make a wise, and more economical decision.

Your problem is that you respond to someone that brings up a valid point, and attack it from only one point. You aren't contributing to the discussion, and infact, you're hindering by only stating misleading and one-sided information.

So please, do everyone a favor, and just stop.



I have never spread half truths and or misinformation.

There is no average, how many times does this have to be said. Unless you have polled every household int he world and worked the formula to average the distance, then any quote mentioning an average is just plain silly. It would make more sense of dropping the average and just asking the person what their viewing distance is.

Yes screen size matters, in relation to viewing distance. Screen size alone does not matter. It grinds on me that I have to keep repeating this. Im sick of people saying 32" is pointless for 1080p. Such a statement is so false, taking a TV size and then saying its no good is plain silly and stupid because the size of the screen itself does not affect resolution. Hence why screen size itself is irrelevant, please can you understand this?

Ill stop nothing until people stop posting false information. A resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on a 22" screen or a 100" screen. Resolution is fixed and does not change due to screen size, I wish people would stop with the myth that 1080p is only good for 50"+ screens, that is total nonsense.

You obviously don't pay attention to the context of what people say. People might say, 1080p is useless for most owners of 32" Televisions and that would most likely be true. Most people sit far from the acceptable distant the human eye can distinguish the difference.

Also, once again, the Average viewing distance is a measurement setup by THX standards. It gives someone an idea. If 6-8 requires a 55"(or whatever) bigger screen for someone with 20/20 to tell the difference(which few peopole have anyways) then if I sit 6ft away and buy a 32" inch, it's clearly not going to matter. Same goes for a 40".

If you wish to be helpful, which you claim you're trying to do. Then why don't you simply copy and paste a chart with size and proper viewing distance for 1080p. This way, you've contributed to the discussion, helped people by further clarifying what's been said. As an added bonus, you won't come off as an ass.

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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="kryloc"]

Sorry, but you really should stop spreading your half-truths and misinformation.

Average is what is given for the typical household. And is a baseline for people to grasp an understanding.

Screen Size matters, as much as resolution and viewing distance. You keep spouting it doesn't matter, but it's part of the formula. What would the theory of realitivity be if there was no Mass?

No one is making anything up btw, these are well documented facts and figures. Will there always be some variables to real life? Yes. But that doesn't mean we throw everything away that can help someone make a wise, and more economical decision.

Your problem is that you respond to someone that brings up a valid point, and attack it from only one point. You aren't contributing to the discussion, and infact, you're hindering by only stating misleading and one-sided information.

So please, do everyone a favor, and just stop.

kryloc



I have never spread half truths and or misinformation.

There is no average, how many times does this have to be said. Unless you have polled every household int he world and worked the formula to average the distance, then any quote mentioning an average is just plain silly. It would make more sense of dropping the average and just asking the person what their viewing distance is.

Yes screen size matters, in relation to viewing distance. Screen size alone does not matter. It grinds on me that I have to keep repeating this. Im sick of people saying 32" is pointless for 1080p. Such a statement is so false, taking a TV size and then saying its no good is plain silly and stupid because the size of the screen itself does not affect resolution. Hence why screen size itself is irrelevant, please can you understand this?

Ill stop nothing until people stop posting false information. A resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on a 22" screen or a 100" screen. Resolution is fixed and does not change due to screen size, I wish people would stop with the myth that 1080p is only good for 50"+ screens, that is total nonsense.

You obviously don't pay attention to the context of what people say. People might say, 1080p is useless for most owners of 32" Televisions and that would most likely be true. Most people sit far from the acceptable distant the human eye can distinguish the difference.

Also, once again, the Average viewing distance is a measurement setup by THX standards. It gives someone an idea. If 6-8 requires a 55"(or whatever) bigger screen for someone with 20/20 to tell the difference(which few peopole have anyways) then if I sit 6ft away and buy a 32" inch, it's clearly not going to matter. Same goes for a 40".

If you wish to be helpful, which you claim you're trying to do. Then why don't you simply copy and paste a chart with size and proper viewing distance for 1080p. This way, you've contributed to the discussion, helped people by further clarifying what's been said. As an added bonus, you won't come off as an ass.



The context, Have you read this thread? Please dont show yourself up. Here I will help you.

"With a 32" you'll hardly notice the difference at all between 1080p & 720p"

"but really in 32' tv's the difference is not that big"

"the difference is more clear with bigger screens but a 32' is not that big to notice the difference"

All 3 quotes are from this thread and from those quotes, each of their posts fail to mention anything about viewing distance. These people are following a great big myth and lie. People throw about 1080p is useless on small screens when clearly they dont have a clue of what they are talking about, like it or not, its proved in this thread alone. Come back with what you want, its in black and white, everyone can see.

And please stop with average viewing distance. The majority of posts on this subject never ever have 'average' or 'viewing distance' in them. Average means nothing. Whats the point on stating the average of a setup with TV's when you need to know what the person is thinking of doing. Stating a average for this topic is pretty stupid and pointless.

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looking at the KDL-32XBR9, seems to have all capabilities im looking for. but i've heard it has audio problems, anyone that own one able to confirm or deny?

anyone know of a better 32"?

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I have that TV and it's amazing. The audio is great.
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Get the 1080p if it's a decent quality set--they provide more leeway.