getting a pc now or wait for new consoles?

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

Hate_Squad

[QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

Modbetto

[QUOTE="Modbetto"][QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="Modbetto"][QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Modbetto"] Wait.....4K is coming......not very soon.....but soon.greengloop

Next christmas we will see a couple of 4k 30 inch monitors going for 3000-4000 ish.......sharp already has a3840×2160 32inch going for 5000 USD....we are already there.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Modbetto"] Wait.....4K is coming......not very soon.....but soon.greengloop

An 8800 GTX can play games at roughly console equivalency.

Regardless, last generaiton saw the begining of a whole new architecture. GPU's before the architectural change were still more powerful in terms of raw performance vs consoles, but the new shader technology, once utilized by developers (took about a year or two) gave the newer hardware architecture a boost.

There is NO such architecture improvement coming down the pipe. And no, consoles aren't going to equip their new ahrdware with 400 watt TDP's. IT's not possible.

[QUOTE="greengloop"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] lol, consoles aren't going to do 4k, Its guaranteed that the next round of consoles wont be any stronger then an AMD 7850, with a moderate clocked quad core or a low clocked eight core cpu. So as long as you pick up an AMD eight core or Intel i5/i7 with a gpu 7870+ or GTX 660 you will be better off then the consoles. AMD and Nvidia will be releasing their new gpu line this year, so its up to you TC.

Modbetto

Next christmas we will see a couple of 4k 30 inch monitors going for 3000-4000 ish.......sharp already has a3840×2160 32inch going for 5000 USD....we are already there.

It supports output to 4K, NOT rendering the game at 4K. Don't be ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Modbetto"]

[QUOTE="greengloop"] Yeh but towards the end of the consoles generation, the consoles will continue running the latest games decently whereas the PC you recommend will probably not be able to run even low settings. Have a look at what's happening to setups with 8800GTXs for example. Used to be the best back when the consoles were rolling out. Can't run the latest games on even console quality today. Oh and not to mention cost.Kinthalis

Next christmas we will see a couple of 4k 30 inch monitors going for 3000-4000 ish.......sharp already has a3840×2160 32inch going for 5000 USD....we are already there.

It supports output to 4K, NOT rendering the game at 4K. Don't be ridiculous.

dont you be ridiculous.....please.

and this was last year.....

OK 1st of all forget about ultra or 4k gaming for a while (2-4years at least so we can worry about that for your next rig)

Now if we can a few answers to questions we can work out what is best for you:

Now what is your current rig and/or consoles?

What types of games do you like playing?

What type of budget do you have to build?

PS A 7850 cannot play games @ 4k - as pointed out in the video they use a 7970 or 680 that are both cost appx 3 times.

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[QUOTE="Modbetto"] Not to mention as i said in my quote....the Hd7850s already fully support 4K as demonstrated by both Toshiba and AMD.....as a matter of fact, all Hd7XXX support full 4K with limitations to 3D.... 4K is a year away for PC......it's exactly how it went when we turned to mainstream HD era......remember PC gets everything first hardwarewise.....we beta-test almost all console technology at some point.

Next christmas we will see a couple of 4k 30 inch monitors going for 3000-4000 ish.......sharp already has a3840×2160 32inch going for 5000 USD....we are already there.

Modbetto

It supports output to 4K, NOT rendering the game at 4K. Don't be ridiculous.

dont you be ridiculous.....please.

and this was last year.....

[QUOTE="Modbetto"]

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

It supports output to 4K, NOT rendering the game at 4K. Don't be ridiculous.

04dcarraher

dont you be ridiculous.....please.

and this was last year.....

Dirt3 not impressive in 4K?

will this make you feel better?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zBuiq8RTU

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/6/18/the-4k-graphics-card-shootout.aspx

This was all last year (already posted on another thread)

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Modbetto"] http://youtu.be/9fa5AXMUI-o

dont you be ridiculous.....please.

and this was last year.....

Modbetto

Dirt3 not impressive in 4K?

will this make you feel better?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zBuiq8RTU

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/6/18/the-4k-graphics-card-shootout.aspx

This was all last year (already posted on another thread)

[QUOTE="Modbetto"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] you think their going to be using 7970/680 type gpu's in the next console? wrong, thermal limitations and costs will prevent them from doing so. Also using dirt as a tech demo for 4k is not impressive since the game is is not that demanding in itself at 1080. 04dcarraher

Dirt3 not impressive in 4K?

will this make you feel better?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zBuiq8RTU

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/6/18/the-4k-graphics-card-shootout.aspx

This was all last year (already posted on another thread)

[QUOTE="Modbetto"][QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="Modbetto"][QUOTE="Hate_Squad"]

should i get a new relatively high end pc right now or is there the fear of a huge tehnological leap(and much stronger graphic cards) once the new consoles are released rendering my expensive purchase useless?

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Modbetto"] Wait.....4K is coming......not very soon.....but soon.GioVela2010

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] lol, consoles aren't going to do 4k, Its guaranteed that the next round of consoles wont be any stronger then an AMD 7850, with a moderate clocked quad core or a low clocked eight core cpu. So as long as you pick up an AMD eight core or Intel i5/i7 with a gpu 7870+ or GTX 660 you will be better off then the consoles. AMD and Nvidia will be releasing their new gpu line this year, so its up to you TC.

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Carmack disagrees with you, he suggests a 7850 in a console could get twice as good looking games as a 7850 In a PC. I'm tempted to get a 7850 or a 660ti now, but I know there is no way it will be on par with graphics from future 720 games. I'll just wait for the HD 7870's successor, the 8870 or whatever it will be called.GioVela2010

also you never get a set amount of gains, a 7850 on consoles might perform as well as a 7870 on pc after optimzation but you have to take into affect that certain assets and features are toned down or missing.

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Carmark's quote means you get better performance with same hardware04dcarraher

also you never get a set amount of gains, a 7850 on consoles might perform as well as a 7870 on pc after optimzation but you have to take into affect that certain assets and features are toned down or missing.

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Carmark's quote means you get better performance with same hardware04dcarraher

also you never get a set amount of gains, a 7850 on consoles might perform as well as a 7870 on pc after optimzation but you have to take into affect that certain assets and features are toned down or missing.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] That's all that matters

greengloop

also you never get a set amount of gains, a 7850 on consoles might perform as well as a 7870 on pc after optimzation but you have to take into affect that certain assets and features are toned down or missing.