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#1 ClassicRockFTW
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I'm thinking of building gaming PC's and selling them for affordable prices. Where can I buy parts in bulk (w/ discount)?

I'm getting tired of all these PC World ripoff "deals" where they have a 512mb GPU that they flaunter and sell for 800 or so.

ITT: OP wants to buy quality parts in bulk and make quality gaming PC's and sell them for affordable prices

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#2 MonsieurX
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Don't. And by all the threads you created,you seem to barely know PC hardware.
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#3 ClassicRockFTW
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Don't. And by all the threads you created,you seem to barely know PC hardware.MonsieurX

LOL Why not?

I have partners of course. I'll handle the business side while they handle the technical side, k?

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#4 MonsieurX
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah,right. :rolleyes: Anyway,good luck buying in bulk
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#5 ClassicRockFTW
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah,right. :rolleyes: Anyway,good luck buying in bulkMonsieurX

>Goes in thread

>Sees the OP is genuinely interested in making cheap quality gaming PC's

>Tries to be edgy and sarcastic instead

>"so edgy xD"

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#6 MonsieurX
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There will be a few challenges in making money from this. 1: Price and capital - To get low prices on hardware you need to get it from the manufacturers directly. If you buy from a shop they will make profit, not you. If you want to buy bulk you need to buy lots of stuff. I would guess a minimum of 50-100 units (Most likely much more than that on smaller stuff like cables). Do you have enough money to shell out for 50-100 complete computers (Or even as little as 10)? 2: Marketing - Posting on ebay won't get you many customers. You will drown in the crowd. Basically the only viable way of advertising will be in the local newspaper or something similar. Problem is that most people that want custom computers won't have much interest in such media. Have you even considered you targeted customer group? Will you sell to gamers, kids with rich parents, students, companies or old people? 3: Support - If the economy doesn't kill you, support will. Ask anyone who work at a help desk. Support requires lots of time and patience (Something tells me that you lack the latter). Nobody will buy a complete computer without any form of support. 4: Warranty - You will be operating this as a business. The rules about warranty is quite different for a company than it will be for a consumer. You will have to repair the computers yourself. You will most likely have to pay for shipping of defective items. You also have to make sure that all the components in a computer have the same warranty period. Having some components with 1 year warranty and some with 5 year warranty means that you can only provide 1 year warranty yourself. You then pay extra for warranty on some components (those with 1y+ warranty). It's not critical, but it's yet another source of expenses. 5: Production capacity - If you do get lots of customers, do you have the time to handle the workload. We are not talking about a 8 hour-a-day job here. Expect to work 12-14 hours a day (Especially during the start-up process). 6: Competition - You have two mayor competitors; Small custom builders and huge computer suppliers. You may be able to keep up with the custom builders, but you simply won't have enough capacity to make much money. (A bit back to point 2 here: ) Your target customers will either be enthusiasts who want a custom system and are willing to pay for it, or the average computer user. The former will simply build their own systems. The latter will go to the large suppliers because it's cheaper and safer. Nowadays the many web shops will custom build a system for you as well (and they can actually afford to buy bulk).
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There will be a few challenges in making money from this. 1: Price and capital - To get low prices on hardware you need to get it from the manufacturers directly. If you buy from a shop they will make profit, not you. If you want to buy bulk you need to buy lots of stuff. I would guess a minimum of 50-100 units (Most likely much more than that on smaller stuff like cables). Do you have enough money to shell out for 50-100 complete computers (Or even as little as 10)? 2: Marketing - Posting on ebay won't get you many customers. You will drown in the crowd. Basically the only viable way of advertising will be in the local newspaper or something similar. Problem is that most people that want custom computers won't have much interest in such media. Have you even considered you targeted customer group? Will you sell to gamers, kids with rich parents, students, companies or old people? 3: Support - If the economy doesn't kill you, support will. Ask anyone who work at a help desk. Support requires lots of time and patience (Something tells me that you lack the latter). Nobody will buy a complete computer without any form of support. 4: Warranty - You will be operating this as a business. The rules about warranty is quite different for a company than it will be for a consumer. You will have to repair the computers yourself. You will most likely have to pay for shipping of defective items. You also have to make sure that all the components in a computer have the same warranty period. Having some components with 1 year warranty and some with 5 year warranty means that you can only provide 1 year warranty yourself. You then pay extra for warranty on some components (those with 1y+ warranty). It's not critical, but it's yet another source of expenses. 5: Production capacity - If you do get lots of customers, do you have the time to handle the workload. We are not talking about a 8 hour-a-day job here. Expect to work 12-14 hours a day (Especially during the start-up process). 6: Competition - You have two mayor competitors; Small custom builders and huge computer suppliers. You may be able to keep up with the custom builders, but you simply won't have enough capacity to make much money. (A bit back to point 2 here: ) Your target customers will either be enthusiasts who want a custom system and are willing to pay for it, or the average computer user. The former will simply build their own systems. The latter will go to the large suppliers because it's cheaper and safer. Nowadays the many web shops will custom build a system for you as well (and they can actually afford to buy bulk).MonsieurX

>Implying we dont' have enough money to kickstart a business

>Implying we don't know our target market

>Implying we plan on competiting with "best buy" or w/e

>Implying we wont get an underground market

>Implying so many things

>Implying things aren't so simple

>Implying i'm not a business major

>Implying

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#8 MonsieurX
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Implying you don't know where to buy in bulk and asking in a forum
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#9 ClassicRockFTW
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Implying you don't know where to buy in bulk and asking in a forum MonsieurX

>Implying i'm not trying to gather opinion and tips from multiple sources such as forums.

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#10 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Implying you don't know where to buy in bulk and asking in a forum ClassicRockFTW

>Implying i'm not trying to gather opinion and tips from multiple sources such as forums.

Implying you can't search by yourself
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#11 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Implying you don't know where to buy in bulk and asking in a forum MonsieurX

>Implying i'm not trying to gather opinion and tips from multiple sources such as forums.

Implying you can't search by yourself

>Implying pointless "HURRR DURRRR GOOGLE" type answers don't make you look stupid

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This is yet another thread in which you receive help (in this case, you're shown all the challenges) but decide to shoot everything down and become a bit of a prick It's like that other thread about video cards. You were given all kinds of great suggestions and yet you said nobody had given you a good enough answer because you had to pick just one card.

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#13 ClassicRockFTW
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This is yet another thread in which you receive help (in this case, you're shown all the challenges) but decide to shoot everything down and become a bit of a prick It's like that other thread about video cards. You were given all kinds of great suggestions and yet you said nobody had given you a good enough answer because you had to pick just one card.

Amster_G

Dude I asked a simple question and no one gave me a straight answer.

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#14 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

This is yet another thread in which you receive help (in this case, you're shown all the challenges) but decide to shoot everything down and become a bit of a prick It's like that other thread about video cards. You were given all kinds of great suggestions and yet you said nobody had given you a good enough answer because you had to pick just one card.

ClassicRockFTW

Dude I asked a simple question and no one gave me a straight answer.

Simple open question which is impossible to give a straight answer.
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#15 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

This is yet another thread in which you receive help (in this case, you're shown all the challenges) but decide to shoot everything down and become a bit of a prick It's like that other thread about video cards. You were given all kinds of great suggestions and yet you said nobody had given you a good enough answer because you had to pick just one card.

MonsieurX

Dude I asked a simple question and no one gave me a straight answer.

Simple open question which is impossible to give a straight answer.

Nope. All I asked is what brand of a graphic's card is the best.

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#16 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

Dude I asked a simple question and no one gave me a straight answer.

ClassicRockFTW

Simple open question which is impossible to give a straight answer.

Nope. All I asked is what brand of a graphic's card is the best.

Point proven. Impossible to give a straight answer. Same goes for "which car manufacturer is the best"

They all have their cons and pros

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#17 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Simple open question which is impossible to give a straight answer.MonsieurX

Nope. All I asked is what brand of a graphic's card is the best.

Point proven. Impossible to give a straight answer. Same goes for "which car manufacturer is the best"

They all have their cons and pros

I clearly stated

  1. I don't care for electricity costs
  2. I live in a cold country
  3. OC'ing would be a good option
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#18 Amster_G
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What's your favorite color? Do you like music? Can you speak another language?

Those are yes/no/one answer questions.

Questions regarding setting up an entire business (where to buy bulk from), or which brand video card is the best, aren't simple one answer questions. It blows my mind that you cannot understand that.

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#19 ClassicRockFTW
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What's your favorite color? Do you like music? Can you speak another language?

Those are yes/no/one answer questions.

Questions regarding setting up an entire business (where to buy bulk from), or which brand video card is the best, aren't simple one answer questions. It blows my mind that you cannot understand that.

Amster_G

Obviously they're not but im asking simple enough questions

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#20 JohnF111
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Honestly Monsieur is right, the people you are trying to "save" from PC World don't want to be saved and are incredibly ignorant towards their PC, and the ones who aren't will just get their kids or their neighbour to build them a good PC for a few quid. The only place you'd be able to sell enough units to make any decent income is either if you're in a city and really focus on local custom or if you go online and get drowned in competition and make pennies per unit. You'll be stuck in a rut as the old saying goes, the people who are your target market don't want to play games or if they do, they know that the best deal is not from a shop of any kind, local or not.
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[QUOTE="Amster_G"]

This is yet another thread in which you receive help (in this case, you're shown all the challenges) but decide to shoot everything down and become a bit of a prick It's like that other thread about video cards. You were given all kinds of great suggestions and yet you said nobody had given you a good enough answer because you had to pick just one card.

ClassicRockFTW

Dude I asked a simple question and no one gave me a straight answer.

MonsieurX went pretty in-depth with an earlier post and instead of taking it all in, you just gave him some obnoxious reply.
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unless your moving ALOT of stock, buying in bulk simply isnt going to happen for you. Its all dead money as tech moves too fast.
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Greentexting in Gamespot.
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#25 BattleSpectre
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MonsieurX is spot on, i couldn't have said it better myself. There are so many challenges in running a buisness that you could potentially go crazy in the end. But if you really want to persist with this and have the time and money to do so don't let anyone stop you, live your dream man.

My boss keeps telling me it was the hardest thing he's ever done and regrets starting a buisness. Everyone thinks money falls from the sky when starting a buisness and it all falls into your lap but believe me there is so much more involved. Either way best of luck with it.

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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]There will be a few challenges in making money from this. 1: Price and capital - To get low prices on hardware you need to get it from the manufacturers directly. If you buy from a shop they will make profit, not you. If you want to buy bulk you need to buy lots of stuff. I would guess a minimum of 50-100 units (Most likely much more than that on smaller stuff like cables). Do you have enough money to shell out for 50-100 complete computers (Or even as little as 10)? 2: Marketing - Posting on ebay won't get you many customers. You will drown in the crowd. Basically the only viable way of advertising will be in the local newspaper or something similar. Problem is that most people that want custom computers won't have much interest in such media. Have you even considered you targeted customer group? Will you sell to gamers, kids with rich parents, students, companies or old people? 3: Support - If the economy doesn't kill you, support will. Ask anyone who work at a help desk. Support requires lots of time and patience (Something tells me that you lack the latter). Nobody will buy a complete computer without any form of support. 4: Warranty - You will be operating this as a business. The rules about warranty is quite different for a company than it will be for a consumer. You will have to repair the computers yourself. You will most likely have to pay for shipping of defective items. You also have to make sure that all the components in a computer have the same warranty period. Having some components with 1 year warranty and some with 5 year warranty means that you can only provide 1 year warranty yourself. You then pay extra for warranty on some components (those with 1y+ warranty). It's not critical, but it's yet another source of expenses. 5: Production capacity - If you do get lots of customers, do you have the time to handle the workload. We are not talking about a 8 hour-a-day job here. Expect to work 12-14 hours a day (Especially during the start-up process). 6: Competition - You have two mayor competitors; Small custom builders and huge computer suppliers. You may be able to keep up with the custom builders, but you simply won't have enough capacity to make much money. (A bit back to point 2 here: ) Your target customers will either be enthusiasts who want a custom system and are willing to pay for it, or the average computer user. The former will simply build their own systems. The latter will go to the large suppliers because it's cheaper and safer. Nowadays the many web shops will custom build a system for you as well (and they can actually afford to buy bulk).ClassicRockFTW

>Implying we dont' have enough money to kickstart a business

>Implying we don't know our target market

>Implying we plan on competiting with "best buy" or w/e

>Implying we wont get an underground market

>Implying so many things

>Implying things aren't so simple

>Implying i'm not a business major

>Implying

He's given you a large amount of useful information. Show some respect.
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Hmmm I'm loving dat blind worshipping

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#28 kraken2109
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Hmmm I'm loving dat blind worshipping

ClassicRockFTW
Acting like that is not going to get you any help.
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#29 General_X
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Hmmm I'm loving dat blind worshipping

ClassicRockFTW
It's not so much blind worshipping as much as it is the acknowledgement that very good advice has been given and should be taken into consideration. But you seem hell bent on trying to get this off the ground despite the warnings issued so all I can say is best of luck and try not to bet the whole farm on this endeavor if you can help it.
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#30 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

Hmmm I'm loving dat blind worshipping

General_X

It's not so much blind worshipping as much as it is the acknowledgement that very good advice has been given and should be taken into consideration. But you seem hell bent on trying to get this off the ground despite the warnings issued so all I can say is best of luck and try not to bet the whole farm on this endeavor if you can help it.

>Implying this isn't just a side project

>Implying I don't have enough money

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#31 General_X
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

Hmmm I'm loving dat blind worshipping

ClassicRockFTW

It's not so much blind worshipping as much as it is the acknowledgement that very good advice has been given and should be taken into consideration. But you seem hell bent on trying to get this off the ground despite the warnings issued so all I can say is best of luck and try not to bet the whole farm on this endeavor if you can help it.

>Implying this isn't just a side project

>Implying I don't have enough money

Why so defensive? You made no indication of either of those bullet points in your OP. And most people don't attempt to start a business as a side project...
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="General_X"]It's not so much blind worshipping as much as it is the acknowledgement that very good advice has been given and should be taken into consideration. But you seem hell bent on trying to get this off the ground despite the warnings issued so all I can say is best of luck and try not to bet the whole farm on this endeavor if you can help it. General_X

>Implying this isn't just a side project

>Implying I don't have enough money

Why so defensive? You made no indication of either of those bullet points in your OP. And most people don't attempt to start a business as a side project...

>Implying that it wasn't heavily implied

>Implying this isn't just another one of my famous side projects

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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

>Implying this isn't just a side project

>Implying I don't have enough money

ClassicRockFTW

Why so defensive? You made no indication of either of those bullet points in your OP. And most people don't attempt to start a business as a side project...

>Implying that it wasn't heavily implied

>Implying this isn't just another one of my famous side projects

Implying implications.
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>Implying no one here wants to help you with your attitude.
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#35 ClassicRockFTW
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>Implying no one here wants to help you with your attitude.MonsieurX

>Implying you're not meant to sarcastically show the implied sentence

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#36 ClassicRockFTW
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[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

[QUOTE="General_X"]Why so defensive? You made no indication of either of those bullet points in your OP. And most people don't attempt to start a business as a side project...General_X

>Implying that it wasn't heavily implied

>Implying this isn't just another one of my famous side projects

Implying implications.

>Implying that I was implying implications

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#37 kraken2109
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Dude this isn't 4ch@n if you wanna act like a d!ck go do it there.

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#38 comp_atkins
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this will not be easy.. there are literally 30,000 other people on the internets trying to do the exact same thing.... they are your competition. ( implying something there.. not sure what. i'll leave it up to the tc to tell me )

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#39 Amster_G
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OP, are you always in a very bad mood or something? You get frustrated easily? Everytime people are trying to help you and respond to your threads, you turn into some kind of defensive grump.

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#40 JohnF111
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OP, are you always in a very bad mood or something? You get frustrated easily? Everytime people are trying to help you and respond to your threads, you turn into some kind of defensive grump.

Amster_G
I'd love if he went onto Dragons Den and the dragons all replied "There's too many people doing the same thing and are going out of business, I'm out!". That would be an episode not to miss. :lol:
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#41 blaznwiipspman1
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Monsieur wrote a ton of useful information, and I know that took alot of time and effort on his part, which im sure nobody else here would have bothered even posting. Also what monsieur is saying is correct, hes not saying you will definitely fail, but listing the challenges. If you want to be successful you need a good brand with recognition and solid advertisement. Otherwise all the noobs will just buy alienwares.

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#42 Bikouchu35
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unless your moving ALOT of stock, buying in bulk simply isnt going to happen for you. Its all dead money as tech moves too fast.darksusperia

Yez, only a co. has the connections to get the prices to profit.

Better off buy and sell ipod/iphones and blah on CL. Banking on people off unlock/jailbreaked devices.

My friend does that, and the funny thing is that he got slammed with a parking ticket $50 after banking $100 :lol:

@Tc not sure if you want help or just trolling.

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#43 GummiRaccoon
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Ok this is what you do if you want to start a computer business:

1) stop visiting failchan

2) you can't get into reselling computers because this business model hasn't made sense since the 90's and you are almost 20 years too late

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#44 BattleSpectre
Member since 2009 • 7989 Posts

>Implying we should all play some guild wars 2 :D

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#45 kraken2109
Member since 2009 • 13271 Posts

Ok this is what you do if you want to start a computer business:

1) stop visiting failchan

2) you can't get into reselling computers because this business model hasn't made sense since the 90's and you are almost 20 years too late

GummiRaccoon
3. Nobody will want to work with him because he has no social skills
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#46 Amster_G
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Nobody will want to work with him because he has no social skillskraken2109

Imagine him dealing with an upset customer...

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#47 ClassicRockFTW
Member since 2012 • 1106 Posts

>Implying i'm mad

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#48 NailedGR
Member since 2010 • 997 Posts

>Implying i'm mad

ClassicRockFTW

Not having social skills has nothing to do with being mad. Your trolling is weak, take some time off, rethink what you are doing with your life, become an hero and then come back with better stuff.

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#49 ClassicRockFTW
Member since 2012 • 1106 Posts

[QUOTE="ClassicRockFTW"]

>Implying i'm mad

NailedGR

Not having social skills has nothing to do with being mad. Your trolling is weak, take some time off, rethink what you are doing with your life, become an hero and then come back with better stuff.

>Trolling

>An hero

>Implying he's not mad

>lol u mad

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#50 robertoenrique
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Guys stop responding to this d!ck. He's obviously a loser who lacks all the basic abilities to start a personal business, let alone work for one. Im sure he's unemployed, living in his parent's basement, eating cheetos and trolling forums just becuase he is angry. For christ sake, please ignore him.