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#1 arto1223
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I came across this talking about how there will be a free version of OnLive with no subscription fee. It is for game demos and game rentals, the rentals do cost money depending upon how long you with to rent but demos are free.

I think that OnLive has a whole lot of potential for bringing new gamers in (console gamers that have been scared to make the jump) and to make portable gaming easier. Most people here on GS have shown a lot of hatred towards the OnLive service and yet they haven't even tried the service. It seems as if it became cool to hate OnLive because of the radical change it could bring if it succeeds. I highly doubt OnLive or any service like it will replace PC gaming or modern ways of gaming in general at least for 15-20 years.

Well for those that have been on the fence about OnLive, this will be a great way for you to test the abilities of OnLive for yourselves and in your area. No smoke and mirrors of a live demonstration or early performance of a closed beta. You can try out a demo of a game and get a first hand opinion on the performance of the games, latency and all of the other issues you might have with the service.

I really hope that this will change some of your minds because the service was great in the beta and it is only continuing to gain support from developers.

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#2 Solar-X
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I don't understand the appeal of Onlive. You're not even playing the game. It's just a stream... Logically I suppose the concept works. But I have major doubts on the execution. I just can't imagine playing a game via video feed. And waiting for your inputs to get uploaded to their server, their server to make the inputs count in the game.. Then you watch what your inputs are doing via video stream. sounds craptastic.

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I tried it and it was horrible ill just say that.

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I don't understand the appeal of Onlive. You're not even playing the game. It's just a stream... Logically I suppose the concept works. But I have major doubts on the execution. I just can't imagine playing a game via video feed. And waiting for your inputs to get uploaded to their server, their server to make the inputs count in the game.. Then you watch what your inputs are doing via video stream. sounds craptastic.

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Well what you just said is basically what your computer does. You make inputs, those get sent to your computer's hardware, it calculates those, it sends those results to a panel of pixels that you are looking at. You are still seeing the results of keys you press.

Like I said, I don't see this as replacing the way I game. I will still buy very expensive GPUs (GTX480 I'm looking at you), CPUs (i7-980x I'm looking at you too), PSUs, RAM, SSDs/HDDs, and motherboards to play games maxed out at uber high resolutions. Then I can get on my netbook and play the exact same demanding games, but now on a $300-$400 netbook with an onboard graphics card, a crappy CPU, very little RAM and etc... I know that the games from OnLive will be lower quality than the ones we play right now with our gaming rigs, but for those people that are too stupid to spend 10 minutes to learn how to build a gaming PC and put it together themselves, or for those people that already have some crappy Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer/etc PC from 5+ years ago can play Crysis, L4D2, Shattered Horizon, Bad Company 2, Bioshock 2, Total War, and whatever games they wish to that they couldn't play before.

All I'm saying is that those too scared to try out the service or those that for some reason hate the service just give it a try. Go into this free aspect of OnLive, get the 1mb plug-in, and play a demo of Crysis for FREE. The beta was perfect and if the final product is anywhere near the beta in terms of speed, you will be playing Crysis within a few minutes. Please just give it a try before you form an opinion about it.

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Sorry I don't really follow. Aren't demos supposed to be free?

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[QUOTE="Solar-X"]

I don't understand the appeal of Onlive. You're not even playing the game. It's just a stream... Logically I suppose the concept works. But I have major doubts on the execution. I just can't imagine playing a game via video feed. And waiting for your inputs to get uploaded to their server, their server to make the inputs count in the game.. Then you watch what your inputs are doing via video stream. sounds craptastic.

arto1223

Well what you just said is basically what your computer does. You make inputs, those get sent to your computer's hardware, it calculates those, it sends those results to a panel of pixels that you are looking at. You are still seeing the results of keys you press.

Like I said, I don't see this as replacing the way I game. I will still buy very expensive GPUs (GTX480 I'm looking at you), CPUs (i7-980x I'm looking at you too), PSUs, RAM, SSDs/HDDs, and motherboards to play games maxed out at uber high resolutions. Then I can get on my netbook and play the exact same demanding games, but now on a $300-$400 netbook with an onboard graphics card, a crappy CPU, very little RAM and etc... I know that the games from OnLive will be lower quality than the ones we play right now with our gaming rigs, but for those people that are too stupid to spend 10 minutes to learn how to build a gaming PC and put it together themselves, or for those people that already have some crappy Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer/etc PC from 5+ years ago can play Crysis, L4D2, Shattered Horizon, Bad Company 2, Bioshock 2, Total War, and whatever games they wish to that they couldn't play before.

All I'm saying is that those too scared to try out the service or those that for some reason hate the service just give it a try. Go into this free aspect of OnLive, get the 1mb plug-in, and play a demo of Crysis for FREE. The beta was perfect and if the final product is anywhere near the beta in terms of speed, you will be playing Crysis within a few minutes. Please just give it a try before you form an opinion about it.

The beta wasn't perfect. Beta testers said it was laggy and the images they uploaded showed that there was a ton of compression in the signal. Crysis looked like it was being played on low settings thanks to how compressed the feed was.

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#7 painguy1
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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="Solar-X"]

I don't understand the appeal of Onlive. You're not even playing the game. It's just a stream... Logically I suppose the concept works. But I have major doubts on the execution. I just can't imagine playing a game via video feed. And waiting for your inputs to get uploaded to their server, their server to make the inputs count in the game.. Then you watch what your inputs are doing via video stream. sounds craptastic.

gameguy6700

Well what you just said is basically what your computer does. You make inputs, those get sent to your computer's hardware, it calculates those, it sends those results to a panel of pixels that you are looking at. You are still seeing the results of keys you press.

Like I said, I don't see this as replacing the way I game. I will still buy very expensive GPUs (GTX480 I'm looking at you), CPUs (i7-980x I'm looking at you too), PSUs, RAM, SSDs/HDDs, and motherboards to play games maxed out at uber high resolutions. Then I can get on my netbook and play the exact same demanding games, but now on a $300-$400 netbook with an onboard graphics card, a crappy CPU, very little RAM and etc... I know that the games from OnLive will be lower quality than the ones we play right now with our gaming rigs, but for those people that are too stupid to spend 10 minutes to learn how to build a gaming PC and put it together themselves, or for those people that already have some crappy Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer/etc PC from 5+ years ago can play Crysis, L4D2, Shattered Horizon, Bad Company 2, Bioshock 2, Total War, and whatever games they wish to that they couldn't play before.

All I'm saying is that those too scared to try out the service or those that for some reason hate the service just give it a try. Go into this free aspect of OnLive, get the 1mb plug-in, and play a demo of Crysis for FREE. The beta was perfect and if the final product is anywhere near the beta in terms of speed, you will be playing Crysis within a few minutes. Please just give it a try before you form an opinion about it.

The beta wasn't perfect. Beta testers said it was laggy and the images they uploaded showed that there was a ton of compression in the signal. Crysis looked like it was being played on low settings thanks to how compressed the feed was.

it was. and crysis was set at High, not very high, and looked horribly compressed to the point it looked medium/low

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Even running Crysis on low on a netbook is noteworthy....starting to wonder if people can grasp the point of Onlive atall, it isn't SUPPOSED to blow your mind away with amazing graphics on an onboard card. The point is having the option to play the games period on that type of hardware, while being anywhere. I probably will not look twice at Onlive, because I do have a gaming machine. But I am not going to shoot it down before it even leaves the ground like others are. I have cautious hope for it, and if anything hope it leaves the potential to be really great in time.

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Thx to the OP for bringing this up...i never heard of OnLive..but now that ived seen this topic i went to their blog/webpage and saw what they are all about iam ready to give them a try...the whole idea that you can play any game from any pc/notebook is very awesome.

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Even running Crysis on low on a netbook is noteworthy....starting to wonder if people can grasp the point of Onlive atall, it isn't SUPPOSED to blow your mind away with amazing graphics on an onboard card. The point is having the option to play the games period on that type of hardware, while being anywhere. I probably will not look twice at Onlive, because I do have a gaming machine. But I am not going to shoot it down before it even leaves the ground like others are. I have cautious hope for it, and if anything hope it leaves the potential to be really great in time.

trijity

I'm sorry but to think you'll be able to stream onlive "anywhere" is a joke. The thing will only be playable on a highspeed connection.

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[QUOTE="trijity"]

Even running Crysis on low on a netbook is noteworthy....starting to wonder if people can grasp the point of Onlive atall, it isn't SUPPOSED to blow your mind away with amazing graphics on an onboard card. The point is having the option to play the games period on that type of hardware, while being anywhere. I probably will not look twice at Onlive, because I do have a gaming machine. But I am not going to shoot it down before it even leaves the ground like others are. I have cautious hope for it, and if anything hope it leaves the potential to be really great in time.

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I'm sorry but to think you'll be able to stream onlive "anywhere" is a joke. The thing will only be playable on a highspeed connection.

"Anywhere" was a bit of a stretch, but I'm still amazed at how everyone is nitpicking at the smallest things and can't actually see what this service does offer. Fine then, play Crysis on your netbook at home, that is still awesome. I'm sure Onlive wasn't made for the people with the $800+ gaming rigs like most of the people on the PC gaming forums most likely have. Take it for what it is, and hoping for the best.

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[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

[QUOTE="trijity"]

Even running Crysis on low on a netbook is noteworthy....starting to wonder if people can grasp the point of Onlive atall, it isn't SUPPOSED to blow your mind away with amazing graphics on an onboard card. The point is having the option to play the games period on that type of hardware, while being anywhere. I probably will not look twice at Onlive, because I do have a gaming machine. But I am not going to shoot it down before it even leaves the ground like others are. I have cautious hope for it, and if anything hope it leaves the potential to be really great in time.

trijity

I'm sorry but to think you'll be able to stream onlive "anywhere" is a joke. The thing will only be playable on a highspeed connection.

"Anywhere" was a bit of a stretch, but I'm still amazed at how everyone is nitpicking at the smallest things and can't actually see what this service does offer. Fine then, play Crysis on your netbook at home, that is still awesome. I'm sure Onlive wasn't made for the people with the $800+ gaming rigs like most of the people on the PC gaming forums most likely have. Take it for what it is, and hoping for the best.

Onlive claimed they would be able to provide these "small things" and have not delivered. Technically they lied, and thats why people are being picky. If the consumer doesn't speak up than these companies will think that they can do whatever they want and expect us to deal with low quality products.

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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="Solar-X"]

I don't understand the appeal of Onlive. You're not even playing the game. It's just a stream... Logically I suppose the concept works. But I have major doubts on the execution. I just can't imagine playing a game via video feed. And waiting for your inputs to get uploaded to their server, their server to make the inputs count in the game.. Then you watch what your inputs are doing via video stream. sounds craptastic.

gameguy6700

Well what you just said is basically what your computer does. You make inputs, those get sent to your computer's hardware, it calculates those, it sends those results to a panel of pixels that you are looking at. You are still seeing the results of keys you press.

Like I said, I don't see this as replacing the way I game. I will still buy very expensive GPUs (GTX480 I'm looking at you), CPUs (i7-980x I'm looking at you too), PSUs, RAM, SSDs/HDDs, and motherboards to play games maxed out at uber high resolutions. Then I can get on my netbook and play the exact same demanding games, but now on a $300-$400 netbook with an onboard graphics card, a crappy CPU, very little RAM and etc... I know that the games from OnLive will be lower quality than the ones we play right now with our gaming rigs, but for those people that are too stupid to spend 10 minutes to learn how to build a gaming PC and put it together themselves, or for those people that already have some crappy Dell/HP/Gateway/Acer/etc PC from 5+ years ago can play Crysis, L4D2, Shattered Horizon, Bad Company 2, Bioshock 2, Total War, and whatever games they wish to that they couldn't play before.

All I'm saying is that those too scared to try out the service or those that for some reason hate the service just give it a try. Go into this free aspect of OnLive, get the 1mb plug-in, and play a demo of Crysis for FREE. The beta was perfect and if the final product is anywhere near the beta in terms of speed, you will be playing Crysis within a few minutes. Please just give it a try before you form an opinion about it.

The beta wasn't perfect. Beta testers said it was laggy and the images they uploaded showed that there was a ton of compression in the signal. Crysis looked like it was being played on low settings thanks to how compressed the feed was.

Huh, sux for them. But again, don't bother with what they say, don't even bother with what I say about how my beta experience went. All I'm saying is that now there will be a way to test out the performance of this service first hand in you own area for free. All I'm saying is give it a try, for free, before forming your opinion. You might be surprised how well it runs/looks or you might end up hating the service even more, but at least you will have tried it and not just listened to other people.