Graphic card upgrade : 5850 or 5770 or GTX285 or something else for 1440x900

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#1 uchihataru
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ok so i've decided to upgrade my 9800gt to something better, should i go with te 5850,5770 or the GTX285? my specs are in my sig..i heard that the 5850 is overkill for my resolution but i really want something that can last me two years without having to upgrade again, and at the same time max out crysis so i can be sure ill max crysis 2 when its out..thanks.

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#2 GTR12
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By "maxxing" crysis now, you won't neccessarily be "maxxing" crysis 2. Can youwait forthe GTX480/70 or look at 5970 to last you 2 yrs.

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#3 uchihataru
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By "maxxing" crysis now, you won't neccessarily be "maxxing" crysis 2. Can youwait forthe GTX480/70 or look at 5970 to last you 2 yrs.

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how much would the gtx480/470 cost roughly? the 5970 is out of my budget...
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I think getting the 5770 is the best choice and if you want more power you could buy another and put them in crossfire.(2 are more powerfull then a 5850)

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#5 uchihataru
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I think getting the 5770 is the best choice and if you want more power you could buy another and put them in crossfire.(2 are more powerfull then a 5850)

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i heard that crossfire dont work on some games am i right ? if thats the case i would really prefer a single card...
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#6 GazaAli
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for your resolution i recommend looking at the GTX 470, and that is only if you are planing to sticking with this resolution for some time. But honestly, i think the 9800GT is a great card for your resolution. try and SLI it with another one.
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#7 MerckmanX
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I think the 5770 is also your best choice,anything higher than that you may start to see some bottlenecking in your current setup.

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#8 kaitanuvax
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for your resolution i recommend looking at the GTX 470, and that is only if you are planing to sticking with this resolution for some time. But honestly, i think the 9800GT is a great card for your resolution. try and SLI it with another one.GazaAli

If the TC said a 5850 is overkill for his resolution (which I agree), what do you think a GTX 470 is?

Go get a HD 5770.

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#9 NLahren
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5770 is enough
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#10 GazaAli
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Dont get the 5770, it will suffer under DX11, and its price is high since its a DX11 card. try and SLI another 9800GT or get something like the GTX 260. or you can get a powerful DX11 card, like the GTX 470/480 or the 5850/5870 and plan for a monitor upgrade.
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#11 kaitanuvax
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and its price is high since its a DX11 card.GazaAli

GTX 260 costs more than the 5770 and performs the same. (the 196core model anyway)

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#12 Too_tight_shoes
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HD5850 is the best price/performance card out their in my opinion and if you have anything like a 9800GT or less then it would be a great upgrade.
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#13 Bikouchu35
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HD5850 is the best price/performance card out their in my opinion and if you have anything like a 9800GT or less then it would be a great upgrade.Too_tight_shoes

Yeah, a 5770 isnt a jump the good thing is @ that res you can either wait for the prices or just buy 5850 and hang on to it for a while than again you may get a better monitor too.

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#14 fivex84
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I would get a 5850. Well actually I am about to get a 5850. :)

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#15 djdarkforces
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defo the 5850 will be a nice upgrade and will last awhile

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#16 ionusX
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gtx 275 or hd 4890 or hd 5830 is about all you will EVER need for that resolution.

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#17 SinfulPotato
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Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.
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#18 Too_tight_shoes
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Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.SinfulPotato
Oh yeah I forgot... for a minute there I thought we buy cards to run future games at steady framerates. Sorry about that.
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for your resolution i recommend looking at the GTX 470, and that is only if you are planing to sticking with this resolution for some time. But honestly, i think the 9800GT is a great card for your resolution. try and SLI it with another one.GazaAli
5850 is better tho, 470 is crap.
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#20 MerckmanX
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Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.SinfulPotato

I second this, did the rest of you guys even look at his system specs in his sig? The 5850 or the GTX285 would be bottlenecked/overkill with his current build.

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[QUOTE="SinfulPotato"]Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.MerckmanX

I second this, did the rest of you guys even look at his system specs in his sig? The 5850 or the GTX285 would be bottlenecked/overkill with his current build.

Oh good lord... *face palm* Bottleneck?... NO you don't need a 4GHz i7 to have a mid-high end GPU. Also do you people buy cards for current games or do you buy them to have a better chance of running games for a long time, its lets buy a GPU that can run games out now at 30-60FPS... what will happen to that in a year? 20FPS? Im done recommending right now, I let these guys do it... Get a HD4850 its an awesome upgrade over a 9800GT, you get an extra 10FPS! DAWG.
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#22 fivex84
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It's called buying for the future, not just right now.

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#23 uchihataru
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[QUOTE="MerckmanX"]

[QUOTE="SinfulPotato"]Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.Too_tight_shoes

I second this, did the rest of you guys even look at his system specs in his sig? The 5850 or the GTX285 would be bottlenecked/overkill with his current build.

Oh good lord... *face palm* Bottleneck?... NO you don't need a 4GHz i7 to have a mid-high end GPU. Also do you people buy cards for current games or do you buy them to have a better chance of running games for a long time, its lets buy a GPU that can run games out now at 30-60FPS... what will happen to that in a year? 20FPS? Im done recommending right now, I let these guys do it... Get a HD4850 its an awesome upgrade over a 9800GT, you get an extra 10FPS! DAWG.

i think ill go with this and a few of the ther guy's recommendation..get a 5850 and then upgrade my monitor in the near future..thanks for the replies guys..
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#24 Gambler_3
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DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

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#25 ionusX
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DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

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lol the gtx 470 is more overkill than a 5850.. listen to me boy im here to say you an hd 4800 (omit hd 4830) series/hd 5700/hd 5830/gtx 275 (hard to find) is about all you will ever need my hd 5830 maxes out BFBC2 on 1440 x 900 resolution full AA and AF. it kicks DoW2 around the block with about 50-75 fps, and WiC maxed out doesnt even register on ym gpu. you tell me theres a problem witht that lol. anything over any of the cards i jsut mentioned will be a waste of money as you will NEVER see it preform to its full potential.

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#26 kaitanuvax
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DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

Gambler_3

A 5850 IS overkill for 1440x900. Even my 4850 can max out everything at 1680x1050 (of course, with the exception of Crysis. But I get 35 FPS on it on DX9 High settings, which looks 95% as good as maxed out)

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#27 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

ionusX

lol the gtx 470 is more overkill than a 5850.. listen to me boy im here to say you an hd 4800 (omit hd 4830) series/hd 5700/hd 5830/gtx 275 (hard to find) is about all you will ever need my hd 5830 maxes out BFBC2 on 1440 x 900 resolution full AA and AF. it kicks DoW2 around the block with about 50-75 fps, and WiC maxed out doesnt even register on ym gpu. you tell me theres a problem witht that lol. anything over any of the cards i jsut mentioned will be a waste of money as you will NEVER see it preform to its full potential.

So do you think a 5850 will continue to max out games at 14x9 forever?:|

You know when the 8800 came out, people used to say that an 8800GTX is utter waste unless you game on 19x12. When crysis came out it was worth it having a GTX even if you game on 10x7 lmao. That's all I will say and I know TC is smart enough.

Your 5830 is good enough but that doesnt mean that one shouldnt get a better card if they can afford...

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#28 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

kaitanuvax

A 5850 IS overkill for 1440x900. Even my 4850 can max out everything at 1680x1050 (of course, with the exception of Crysis. But I get 35 FPS on it on DX9 High settings, which looks 95% as good as maxed out)

lol no crysis very high looks considerably better than high.:?

And what about BC2, GTA4, just cause 2 and the latest stalker?

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lol no crysis very high looks considerably better than high.:?

And what about BC2, GTA4, just cause 2 and the latest stalker?

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BC2 - I played about the first 5 minutes and I got 30 FPS. (everything maxed, no AA)

GTA4 - This POS doesn't count as a game. Rockstar didn't put one ounce of effort into optimizing it for the PC.

Never heard of the last 2 games.

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#30 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

lol no crysis very high looks considerably better than high.:?

And what about BC2, GTA4, just cause 2 and the latest stalker?

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BC2 - I played about the first 5 minutes and I got 30 FPS. (everything maxed, no AA)

GTA4 - This POS doesn't count as a game. Rockstar didn't put one ounce of effort into optimizing it for the PC.

Never heard of the last 2 games.

So ya you dont come close to maxing out BC2. Real maxing out is 45+ FPS with 4xAA. I have heard BC2 is even more demanding than crysis.

The other two games I mentioned are also very demanding...it's about time many games will start to get as demanding as crysis.

And BTW TC I really doubt that crysis 2 would be more demanding that crysis 1 cuz it is also on consoles so you would be fine with crysis 2...

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when people say "maxing crysis". do they really mean maxing it.....or just good enough? cuz enthusiest everything +4AA is hell on my fps so I leave it on gamer and no AA. so I would say I do not max crysis.

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#32 kaitanuvax
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So ya you dont come close to maxing out BC2. Real maxing out is 45+ FPS with 4xAA.

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Maxing outmeans playable frames at highestgame settings. Last time I checked 30 FPS is the standard for playability.

Edit: Take note of these things as well:

1. I have an ancient CPU.

2. REMEMBER I game at 1680x1050. At TC's resolution, 1440x900, his frames would be even higher.

Thus, what I get would actually be higher if applied to TC.

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#33 lespaul1919
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30 isn't quite good enough for a PC fps. I would say 60 honestly. 30 is playable......60 is silky smooth.

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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]for your resolution i recommend looking at the GTX 470, and that is only if you are planing to sticking with this resolution for some time. But honestly, i think the 9800GT is a great card for your resolution. try and SLI it with another one.Human-after-all
5850 is better tho, 470 is crap.

Yes it is ha.
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#35 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

DONT listen to anyone who tells you that 5850 is overkill or anything. But I think you are already smart enough so just buy it and have fun with super smooth maxed out gaming.

A GTX 470 isnt a bad choice if your power supply can handle it...

And you dont have to upgrade your monitor if you are happy with it's size, 14x9 isnt really a low res, it's perfectly enough to show you all the details...

Gambler_3

lol the gtx 470 is more overkill than a 5850.. listen to me boy im here to say you an hd 4800 (omit hd 4830) series/hd 5700/hd 5830/gtx 275 (hard to find) is about all you will ever need my hd 5830 maxes out BFBC2 on 1440 x 900 resolution full AA and AF. it kicks DoW2 around the block with about 50-75 fps, and WiC maxed out doesnt even register on ym gpu. you tell me theres a problem witht that lol. anything over any of the cards i jsut mentioned will be a waste of money as you will NEVER see it preform to its full potential.

So do you think a 5850 will continue to max out games at 14x9 forever?:|

You know when the 8800 came out, people used to say that an 8800GTX is utter waste unless you game on 19x12. When crysis came out it was worth it having a GTX even if you game on 10x7 lmao. That's all I will say and I know TC is smart enough.

Your 5830 is good enough but that doesnt mean that one shouldnt get a better card if they can afford...

no im not saying dont get a betetr card if you can but there is a limit. you must set. if you can afgford the 5970 or heck an asus republic of gamers mars go completely nuts. but preformance wise atm and into the forseeable future it will be more than enough. heck my hd 2400pro lasted me until the hd 4000 series gpu's thats a heck of a life lol.on lower resolution modern mid-high end gpu's can last forever and i do mean that. jesus an hd 3650 would probably still do well at that level of resolution and graphical demand for most games.

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#36 29121994
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Ok, the 5870 is easily better than the gtx 285 and it has support for directX 11 which is a major plus. Also, the 5870 is cheaper than the gtx 285 and uses way less power. Another thing to keep in mind is that even the 5850 is better than the gtx 285.

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#37 jun_aka_pekto
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lol no crysis very high looks considerably better than high.:?

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I have to say, no if the res is 1440x900. It looks too blurry.

I'd say Post-processing at Low, Shaders at High, Shadows at Medium, everything else at Very High would yield a better image quality than everything at Very High. Then, there's also the Brightness, Contrast, and Gamma settings to consider.

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#38 Gambler_3
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[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]lol no crysis very high looks considerably better than high.:?

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I have to say, no if the res is 1440x900. It looks too blurry.

I'd say Post-processing at Low, Shaders at High, Shadows at Medium, everything else at Very High would yield a better image quality than everything at Very High. Then, there's also the Brightness, Contrast, and Gamma settings to consider.

I play crysis at 10x7 and I have no idea what you are saying.:|

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buy the 5850 or 5770(crossfire) if you are going to upgrade your monitor. If you stay with your current monitor for a long time it's better to get something from nvidia because you can use supersampling to get the full power out of your gpu.(with nhancer). Supersampling basicly doubles your resolution and it will look much better(but not as good as a higher resolution screen with some aa).

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#40 SinfulPotato
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[QUOTE="SinfulPotato"]Um.. at 1440x900 a 4850 can max everything out. Don't know what these people are talking about. Unless he upgraded his monitor any other card would be a waste of money.Too_tight_shoes
Oh yeah I forgot... for a minute there I thought we buy cards to run future games at steady framerates. Sorry about that.

Your "furture proofing" will cost him more money in the long run. When the 5850 is old news his 4850 will still be going strong. The 4850 is the 8800GT of yesterday. He's better off waiting for a price drop.