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#1 zvegasz
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I had a 9800 GTX+ that pissed in my face, so I had to replace it with my old 8600 GT. That sucked so I bought a cheapGT 440 that will be delivered tomorrow. Thinking that will do untill I buy a new comp in a few months.. Now after reading I see that my 9800 GTX+ might be alot better than the GT 440. Even tho I bought it two years ago. And the 440 is a new card.

Did i make a dumb choice since the difference between the 8600 GT and the 9800 GTX+ was not that much of a difference performance wise!?

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#2 Marfoo
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The best way to judge a card performance is by the second most significant digit. With your first card, the series was 9000, and it's performance range was 8 (8 or 9 usually being highest for Nvidia) The 8600 GT was 8000 series, a series older, and it's performance range is 6. The GT 440 is two series newer than the 9000 (9000 -> 200 -> 400 go figure on the logic right?), and its performance is 4. Generally with Nvidia 4 and lower is the bottom of the barrel, not aimed at gaming at all.
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#3 04dcarraher
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Well it looks like a GT 440 is in the range of a 9600GT of performance.its a upgrade from a 8600gt buts its about 20% slower then a 9800GTX

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#4 zvegasz
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Thanks man. The vendors has everything from 20 euros and 600 euros and 500 cards in between. Just a jungle. You made it easier for me when i build a new system.

Gamespot is teh sh!t when it comes to questions.

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#5 swehunt
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Well it looks like a GT 440 is in the range of a 9600GT of performance.its a upgrade from a 8600gt buts its about 20% slower then a 9800GTX

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The 9800gtx(+)/GTS250 are much faster than the 9600gt, probably more than 35-40% faster.
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#6 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Well it looks like a GT 440 is in the range of a 9600GT of performance.its a upgrade from a 8600gt buts its about 20% slower then a 9800GTX

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The 9800gtx(+)/GTS250 are much faster than the 9600gt, probably more than 35-40% faster.

No not really, The 9600GT was only around 15% slower then a 8800GT/9800GT, so a 8800GTS/9800GTX is only on average 5% faster then the 8800GT/9800GT. So 20% is around the right amount 30%+ is too much

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#7 swehunt
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Well it looks like a GT 440 is in the range of a 9600GT of performance.its a upgrade from a 8600gt buts its about 20% slower then a 9800GTX

04dcarraher

The 9800gtx(+)/GTS250 are much faster than the 9600gt, probably more than 35-40% faster.

No not really, The 9600GT was only around 15% slower then a 8800GT/9800GT, so a 8800GTS/9800GTX is only on average 5% faster then the 8800GT/9800GT. So 20% is around the right amount 30%+ is too much

Your are comfused.

The 8800GTS and the 9800GTX dont perform near eachother even if theyre based or nearly the same GPU they are not using a clock even remote simular to eachother.

The 9600GT is about 20% or more slower than the 8800GT.

The 9800GTX is atleast 30% faster than the 8800GT.

The GT440 ATLEAST 35%-40% slower than the 9800gtx perhaps even more.

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#8 Gambler_3
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Well I had a pretty heavily OCed 8800GTS 640MB which is slightly better than 9600GT and even though I didnt measure any absolute numbers, the upgrade to GTS 250 was pretty immense crysis being my main comparison as I was almost blown away by how much better I could run it.

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#9 04dcarraher
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Come on those charts are off , even still according to those charts 9800GTX vs 8800GTS 34 fps vs 30 fps at 1600x1200 does not equal to 30% thats only 12%,

Here's another chart showing 9600GT vs 8800GT at 1600x1200 hmm 47 vs 45 isnt no 30%+ difference....

Then the only real difference between a 9800GTX and a 9800GT is memory bandwidth and 12 Shader processors overall

Let alone I myself had two 8800GT's in SLI and one of my buddies had 9800GTX's in SLI with a much better cpu at the time he only had a 10-15 fps lead in Crysis or any other game.

The GT 440 is around 9600GT performance

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#10 zvegasz
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That brings me to another question. What does GT, GTO, GTX etc mean?

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#11 swehunt
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Come on those charts are off , even still according to those charts 9800GTX vs 8800GTS 34 fps vs 30 fps at 1600x1200 does not equal to 30% thats only 12%,

Here's another chart showing 9600GT vs 8800GT at 1600x1200 hmm 47 vs 45 isnt no 30%+ difference....

Then the only real difference between a 9800GTX and a 9800GT is memory bandwidth and 12 Shader processors overall

Let alone myself had two 8800GT's in SLI and one of buddies had 9800GTX's in SLI with a much better cpu at the time he only had a 10-15 fps lead in Crysis or any other game

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:) Dont you think benchmarking in medium settings and @ 1280*1024 is just a little missguiding? Take 1900*1200 and you'll see the difference even in your chart! 9600GT 31.88FPS 8800GT 42.29FPS = 8800GT is about 35% faster over the 9600GT in the benchmark you provided! (31.88*1.35 ~ 43)

The 8800GT and the 9800GTX are quite far from eachother.

There are thousands and thousands of benchmarks, they're not even near eachother.

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#12 swehunt
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That brings me to another question. What does GT, GTO, GTX etc mean?

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These are different suffix/prefix and should in most cases tell the consumer what category the card is in. The GTX/ULTRA being the best, GTS/TI the next, GT the third, GSO the fourth, GS the fifth....
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#13 Marfoo
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="zvegasz"]

That brings me to another question. What does GT, GTO, GTX etc mean?

These are different suffix/prefix and should in most cases tell the consumer what category the card is in. The GTX/ULTRA being the best, GTS/TI the next, GT the third, GSO the fourth, GS the fifth....

In a lot of cases it means the same chip under the hood, but with different configuration, meaning it has higher clock speeds, has more/faster memory, or has some of the features/or hardware disabled. Majority of these graphics cards are all based on the same chip, but not all these chips come out fully functional out of the factory, so the bad parts get disabled, clocks get cut etc... and they give it a new name and give it a different pricing to reflect its performance.
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#14 zvegasz
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I recived the card today and my Windows performance went from 5.9 to 6.7. It also supports Dx11. The 8600 GT only supported Dx9. Overall I am happy with the new card. Worth the cash no doubt.

Best option was perhaps to get a second 8600 GT but I only found one retailer and he wanted 120 Euros for it :-/