GTX 1080 Faster than GTX 980 Sli

did you guys hear that ? HOLY COW

http://wccftech.com/watch-nvidia-special-geforce-pascal-livestream-dx12-vr-gameworks/

I'll take 4. Oh, and a 6950X.

I will wait for the big brother to be released...

What is the big brother ? :) 1080ti ?

GP100 based GPU:

Like P100:

3840 cores, 1500+MHz boost clock, 16GB HBM2.0 VRAM.

The problem is that currently only its cutdown version is sold to supercomputer market and it costs like $13,000 (yeah you read correctly there are 5 digits...).

The family pack version (8 x P100) called NVIDIA DGX-1 cost $129,000. You can order one from Nvidia's official site.

If you order 4 of them (maybe even 3), you have a spot in Top500 World's Supercomputers.

A GP100 chip... What nVidia will call it I don't know.

And you're gonna wait for that ? hah.

Btw did they mention what kind of psu you'll need ? Talking about the 1080 here, not the gp100 :)

Or even wait for Volta cards... I need a CPU ugrade, but going to Skylake isn't worth the money. So I want to move up to the enthusiast platform, but going for Broadwell-E seems pointless when Skylake-E is probably released a year later. Hopefully 8-10 cores then will be cheaper since mainstream is supposed to get 8 cores on their i7 line-up.

If your PSU is capable of powering the 980, then it probably can power a 1080. I bet recommended wattage will be in the 500-550 range. Though I suspect a quality 400-450W PSU is enough. Even running a overclocked (up to 4.5 or so) i5-7 on a Z170 system doesn't draw that much power.

Thermal and Power Specs:

94 Maximum GPU Tempurature (in C)

180 W Graphics Card Power (W)

500 W Recommended System Power (W)

8-Pin Supplementary Power Connectors

A 500watt PSU with a single 8pin pcie molex will do the job.

We still haven't seen any reviews, but it might be possible to run in even 400watt PSUs if they are good branded.

edit: I just saw that @horgen already answer with exact same answer I would. :P

@Hydrolex: gtx 1080 is only 50% better than one gtx 980 on benchmarks on nvidia's site.

Reviews will be out May 17th.

+1.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 reviews out on May 17th

Keep in mind NVIDIA are the kings of cherry picking benchmarks so take it with a massive grain of salt...

I may sell up my GTX 970 SLI and get one of these. I'll wait for the user benchmarks to surface first though.

Doesn't seem to be a power hog which is great

It's tough knowing that no matter how much I spend, I can only get to 2nd place here... The most 1080's I will get is 3 and the 5960X is going to have to hold me over for at least another year or two.

And then some time early next year Adam will get 4 of the new Titans just to rub it in more... At least @klunt_bumskrint is possibly getting out of the enthusiast game for a bit. I may not have to worry about dropping even lower again...

Don't worry, Adam doesn't actually play games. He just likes to look at his rig. He posts occasionally when he gets new hardware and then goes back to staring at his rig. LOL

@GoldenElementXL: I'm just not sure if I can stomach sli (lack of) support anymore.

http://www.mobipicker.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-directx-12-benchmarks-async-compute/

Only 9% faster at 1440p over 980 Ti. That is unimpressive to say the least. If a lot of benchmarks end up with minimal improvements like this, I will skip out on the 1080 and wait for the 1080 Ti.

To be fair, those benchmarks are pretty vague and it does not mention what circumstances the benchmarks were conducted. Were are all of the cards reference at stock clocks with the same system configuration?

UPDATE:

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/gtx_1080_ashes_of_the_singularity_benchmarks/1

Same user comparing a 1080 to a Fury X in the same rig. 10-12% faster than Fury X.

@BassMan:

Cant go by an AMD bias game using AMD design usage of Async as proof of performance with Maxwell/Pascal and GCN.

Pascal does not do async compute in the way AMD uses it,Pascal is focused on Pre-Emption coding.

That allows devs to code huge lines the code (large continuous workloads) where they can do compute and rendering jobs at the same time not having to split it up into multiple small jobs to have the cpu and gpu sort and process it. The numerous small tasks is what creates gpu idle time since the cpu cant feed gpu continuously because of the stop gp stop go issue.... Async from AMD basically throws tagged and specific tasks to the gpu's ACE units to process the queue and distribute the workloads along the gpu's processors. That removes some of the cpu's workloads and fills in the gaps by allowing the ACE units to handle some of the work flow.

Pascal's design allows Pre-Emption to be done more smoothly. Maxwell has the same basic feature, and can do it but not as efficient as pascal. however Nvidia didnt get the feature enabled for Async compute until a few months ago in driver, and there has been no dev yet that has coded beyond AMD's version of async, let alone created from the ground up DX12 title.

@04dcarraher: More benchhmarks are needed for sure. I just wanted to put it out there as there is not too much to go on at the moment.

But that doesn't mean much since computing power doubles every 1.5 years and the 980 wasn't exactly a very good card, all it says it it's better than a single 980ti or titan x... Well no shit

Happy that this card is powerful but it also makes me sad that we get a "must play video game" every 12-18 months if where lucky..... (man this generation has blown big time).

1080 is supposed to be as good (maybe slightly better) than GTX 980 in SLI - from what I've heard.

Anyone getting overly excited about no official data on the game performance of these cards....don't set your expectations up too high. Until actual benchmarks are released, we don't really know how these cards will perform and we're left at seeing videos of possible performance or reading articles from somewhat shady sites with their 'rumors'.

Now, if the actual price point is correct and the 1080 is going for $599, I'd hate to see what the flagship cards will go for. I'd guess any Ti version would be pushing $799-$849 and the Titan (if they do one, they sure as hell better let it actually perform much better than the Ti version) will be $1K+.

With Maxwell, if I was a Titan owner I would have been pissed for having dropped $1K on the card only to have a $600 card to get released a while later that performs just as well at a much lower price point.

This is quite a fascinating video

@Hydrolex: Updated with o/ced scores:

This time we only have FireStrike scores. According to the leaker GTX 1080 was running at 2114 MHz clock, which is roughly 381 MHz more than stock 1733 MHz boost clock. This is the first time new Pascal GP104-based graphics cards shows its true potential. We are observing a substantial boost in performance, GTX 1080 has 152/161/161% of GTX TITAN X stock performance in FireStrike Performance/Extreme and Ultra respectively.

How hard do you think it would be to OC to 21xx?

We saw till now, two air o/ced GTX1080 both passed 2,1GHz.

I expect almost every GTX1080 to be able to reach 2,1GHz.

Some of them will reach 2,2+GHz.

I read about a liquid cooled one today that ran at 2.5GHz...

Also 1080 and 1070 won't support trisli and quad sli. Only regular sli.

Yeah I already posted about SLI to an other thread, trying to warn @AdamK47 not to buy 4 of them :P.

Also this liquid version at 2,5GHz will have 12,8TFLOPs of SP.

This is 20% higher than P100 (cutted GP100).

I think its performance could give us a clue of what full GP100 can give at stock settings...

That is indeed a massive jump from Maxwell to Pascal performance wise... Now imagine what 1080 TI will do

@Coseniath: Think about the power draw when running it at 2.5GHz...

Also I guess with Volta cards and whatever AMD has after Vega we might see 3GHz on overclocked GPUs.... Getting close to the stock clock speed of a modern CPU :P

@horgen: The power draw should be around 250-300W and probably it will have a custom PCB with 2 x 8pins...

Volta and next gen AMD chip, might reach 3GHz easy if we will go to 10nm...

Nice, the era of single GPU to be able to run max settings games on 4K is within our reach :D

New build with broadwell-E and pascal next month. I always just assumed id need SLI 1080s to push high frames on my 1440p monitor. It looks like I may only need 1 with a healthy overclock. Guess ill start there!

I have to buy a new sli bridge too? Lame! I just got this cool EVGA one like 6 months ago.

Yeah I think you have to. These new cards support a high bandwidth bridge... I think it uses both connections to double the speed.

If... I doubt it though. 14/16nm for only a year or two...? Not happening I think.

By that time more demanding games are out... =/

By that time we might see 8K games XD

I think there is more demand for 4K 120+Hz than 8K. :P

Yeah, take it slow.

@PredatorRules: No. i am not Intel :P