So, what is the deal with this card? Is it quite like the GTX 460 where they're beastly in sli, or would I be better off just getting a 570 or 580?
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So, what is the deal with this card? Is it quite like the GTX 460 where they're beastly in sli, or would I be better off just getting a 570 or 580?
Ya they are worth it but be sure to get a factory oced version as they seem to be going at almost identical prices.
This is out of stock but I am sure it will be back and is the card to get. 1Ghz factory speed for just $20 extra? Completely worth it and will put the 6950 to shame.
So, what is the deal with this card? Is it quite like the GTX 460 where they're beastly in sli, or would I be better off just getting a 570 or 580?
SickStench
do you already have a 460? if so only the upgrade to the 580 is worth it.
EDIT: and even that's a stretch. personally I'd wait until the next series of cards comes out.
I don't mean to ninja your thread, but I was wondering, will a 585Watt PSU suffice for this GTX560Ti? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565
I have a Vanilla EVGA 560 Ti, and my only complaint so far is that it runs much hotter under load than the heavily OC'd and overvolted GTX 460 that I had before. I got the 560 because I'm a GPU junky, and I had wanted a full GF104 (114)-based card since I heard that they were coming out. Plus the extra memory bandwidth that I got out of the 560's VRAM versus the 460's makes a difference with AA/AF on at 1080p (151 gb/s vs. 131). I had a good-overclocking 460 (911mhz core at 1075mV, never over 73 degrees C under full furmark/heaven torture tests), so this isn't a big step up in performance in most games. My 560 with my max stable OC is between 11-16% faster in most apps than my 460 was at max OC.
Overall it's a great card, and full capable of laying the smack down on a stock 5870/6950 with a fairly common overclock. With this OC mine has slightly more muscle in DX9/DX10 scenarios than a stock GTX 570. It will fall slightly behind in heavily-tessellated DX11 games and benchmarks, due to some design differences between GF100/110 and 104/114.
So you upgraded from GTX 460 to 560? And you have problems paying a few bucks more for intel mobos lol??;)I have a Vanilla EVGA 560 Ti, and my only complaint so far is that it runs much hotter under load than the heavily OC'd and overvolted GTX 460 that I had before. I got the 560 because I'm a GPU junky, and I had wanted a full GF104 (114)-based card since I heard that they were coming out. Plus the extra memory bandwidth that I got out of the 560's VRAM versus the 460's makes a difference with AA/AF on at 1080p (151 gb/s vs. 131). I had a good-overclocking 460 (911mhz core at 1075mV, never over 73 degrees C under full furmark/heaven torture tests), so this isn't a big step up in performance in most games. My 560 with my max stable OC is between 11-16% faster in most apps than my 460 was at max OC.
Overall it's a great card, and full capable of laying the smack down on a stock 5870/6950 with a fairly common overclock. With this OC mine has slightly more muscle in DX9/DX10 scenarios than a stock GTX 570. It will fall slightly behind in heavily-tessellated DX11 games and benchmarks, due to some design differences between GF100/110 and 104/114.
hartsickdiscipl
So you upgraded from GTX 460 to 560? And you have problems paying a few bucks more for intel mobos lol??;)[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
I have a Vanilla EVGA 560 Ti, and my only complaint so far is that it runs much hotter under load than the heavily OC'd and overvolted GTX 460 that I had before. I got the 560 because I'm a GPU junky, and I had wanted a full GF104 (114)-based card since I heard that they were coming out. Plus the extra memory bandwidth that I got out of the 560's VRAM versus the 460's makes a difference with AA/AF on at 1080p (151 gb/s vs. 131). I had a good-overclocking 460 (911mhz core at 1075mV, never over 73 degrees C under full furmark/heaven torture tests), so this isn't a big step up in performance in most games. My 560 with my max stable OC is between 11-16% faster in most apps than my 460 was at max OC.
Overall it's a great card, and full capable of laying the smack down on a stock 5870/6950 with a fairly common overclock. With this OC mine has slightly more muscle in DX9/DX10 scenarios than a stock GTX 570. It will fall slightly behind in heavily-tessellated DX11 games and benchmarks, due to some design differences between GF100/110 and 104/114.
Gambler_3
He also made it quite clear that he's a GPU junky...
Going intel is a waste, especially when AMD will get the job done for considerably less.
*puts up flame shield; awaits cherry picked graphs, benchmarks, and arguments "proving" otherwise.*
So you upgraded from GTX 460 to 560? And you have problems paying a few bucks more for intel mobos lol??;)[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
I have a Vanilla EVGA 560 Ti, and my only complaint so far is that it runs much hotter under load than the heavily OC'd and overvolted GTX 460 that I had before. I got the 560 because I'm a GPU junky, and I had wanted a full GF104 (114)-based card since I heard that they were coming out. Plus the extra memory bandwidth that I got out of the 560's VRAM versus the 460's makes a difference with AA/AF on at 1080p (151 gb/s vs. 131). I had a good-overclocking 460 (911mhz core at 1075mV, never over 73 degrees C under full furmark/heaven torture tests), so this isn't a big step up in performance in most games. My 560 with my max stable OC is between 11-16% faster in most apps than my 460 was at max OC.
Overall it's a great card, and full capable of laying the smack down on a stock 5870/6950 with a fairly common overclock. With this OC mine has slightly more muscle in DX9/DX10 scenarios than a stock GTX 570. It will fall slightly behind in heavily-tessellated DX11 games and benchmarks, due to some design differences between GF100/110 and 104/114.
tequilasunriser
He also made it quite clear that he's a GPU junky...
Going intel is a waste, especially when AMD will get the job done for considerably less.
*puts up flame shield; awaits cherry picked graphs, benchmarks, and arguments "proving" otherwise.*
No I wont really post anything, there is no point anymore, people can think whatever they want. But I had to point out the double standard considering how much of a price performance guy he becomes when it comes to Intel vs AMD.A GPU junky should have GTX 580 then lol. A second hand GTX 460 would probably be worth $150 maximum so he spent around $100 for the upgrade. No way can that be justified for anyone who goes about complaining about intel mobo prices being $30 more than AMD and refusing to go intel because of that!
[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]So you upgraded from GTX 460 to 560? And you have problems paying a few bucks more for intel mobos lol??;)
Gambler_3
He also made it quite clear that he's a GPU junky...
Going intel is a waste, especially when AMD will get the job done for considerably less.
*puts up flame shield; awaits cherry picked graphs, benchmarks, and arguments "proving" otherwise.*
No I wont really post anything, there is no point anymore, people can think whatever they want. But I had to point out the double standard considering how much of a price performance guy he becomes when it comes to Intel vs AMD.A GPU junky should have GTX 580 then lol. A second hand GTX 460 would probably be worth $150 maximum so he spent around $100 for the upgrade. No way can that be justified for anyone who goes about complaining about intel mobo prices being $30 more than AMD and refusing to go intel because of that!
Again, why get a 580 when a 560 will get the same job done for considerably less? Unless hes pushing a resolution higher than 1080P anything more than a 560 isn't really necessary.Right now I only have a HD 5770, though when I do upgrade I am going in sli. I was thinking sli GTX 560 TI, or just one single GTX 580. It looks like the GTX 560 TI sli wins everytime though.
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]No I wont really post anything, there is no point anymore, people can think whatever they want. But I had to point out the double standard considering how much of a price performance guy he becomes when it comes to Intel vs AMD.[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]
He also made it quite clear that he's a GPU junky...
Going intel is a waste, especially when AMD will get the job done for considerably less.
*puts up flame shield; awaits cherry picked graphs, benchmarks, and arguments "proving" otherwise.*
tequilasunriser
A GPU junky should have GTX 580 then lol. A second hand GTX 460 would probably be worth $150 maximum so he spent around $100 for the upgrade. No way can that be justified for anyone who goes about complaining about intel mobo prices being $30 more than AMD and refusing to go intel because of that!
Again, why get a 580 when a 560 will get the same job done for considerably less? Unless hes pushing a resolution higher than 1080P anything more than a 560 isn't really necessary.WTF is this? "Whatever I got is the maximum one should get, anything more is a waste"?:lol:Does the GTX 460 not get the job done or somethin?
And GTX 560 cannot max out metro 2033 at 1080p so yes something more is completely necessary to max it out.:roll:
yah its a decent card and I hear its pretty easy to overclock as well. But it is still a little expensive for my tastes. I never spend more than $150 on a video card so yah.
Again, why get a 580 when a 560 will get the same job done for considerably less? Unless hes pushing a resolution higher than 1080P anything more than a 560 isn't really necessary.WTF is this? "Whatever I got is the maximum one should get"?:lol:[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]No I wont really post anything, there is no point anymore, people can think whatever they want. But I had to point out the double standard considering how much of a price performance guy he becomes when it comes to Intel vs AMD.
A GPU junky should have GTX 580 then lol. A second hand GTX 460 would probably be worth $150 maximum so he spent around $100 for the upgrade. No way can that be justified for anyone who goes about complaining about intel mobo prices being $30 more than AMD and refusing to go intel because of that!
Gambler_3
Does the GTX 460 not get the job done or somethin?
And GTX 560 cannot max out metro 2033 at 1080p so yes something more is completely necessary to max it out.:roll:
He also explained that he wanted the full 104 core, hence the other reason he got the 560. :roll: Do you have trouble reading or something? As for the Metro statement; the 560 gets the job done well enough. I played through the game on my HD4850, I'm sure his 560 can handle it too. What else you got?[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]WTF is this? "Whatever I got is the maximum one should get"?:lol:[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Again, why get a 580 when a 560 will get the same job done for considerably less? Unless hes pushing a resolution higher than 1080P anything more than a 560 isn't really necessary.tequilasunriser
Does the GTX 460 not get the job done or somethin?
And GTX 560 cannot max out metro 2033 at 1080p so yes something more is completely necessary to max it out.:roll:
He also explained that he wanted the full 104 core, hence the other reason he got the 560. :roll: Do you have trouble reading or something? As for the Metro statement; the 560 gets the job done well enough. I played through the game on my HD4850, I'm sure his 560 can handle it too. What else you got?lol you have nothing to talk about my initial argument. He wasted $100 when he came off as someone who is the most uber price performance guy ever. That is all there is to it, case closed!He also explained that he wanted the full 104 core, hence the other reason he got the 560. :roll: Do you have trouble reading or something? As for the Metro statement; the 560 gets the job done well enough. I played through the game on my HD4850, I'm sure his 560 can handle it too. What else you got?lol you have nothing to talk about my initial argument. He wasted $100 when he came off as someone who is the most uber price performance guy ever. That is all there is to it, case closed! You've run out of things to say and decided to close the case. In other words you accept defeat. I'll accept your defeat. :)[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]WTF is this? "Whatever I got is the maximum one should get"?:lol:
Does the GTX 460 not get the job done or somethin?
And GTX 560 cannot max out metro 2033 at 1080p so yes something more is completely necessary to max it out.:roll:
Gambler_3
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]lol you have nothing to talk about my initial argument. He wasted $100 when he came off as someone who is the most uber price performance guy ever. That is all there is to it, case closed! You've run out of things to say and decided to close the case. In other words you accept defeat. I'll accept your defeat. :)Sure whatever helps you sleep at night.:)[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] He also explained that he wanted the full 104 core, hence the other reason he got the 560. :roll: Do you have trouble reading or something? As for the Metro statement; the 560 gets the job done well enough. I played through the game on my HD4850, I'm sure his 560 can handle it too. What else you got?tequilasunriser
You've run out of things to say and decided to close the case. In other words you accept defeat. I'll accept your defeat. :)Sure whatever helps you sleep at night.:)[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]lol you have nothing to talk about my initial argument. He wasted $100 when he came off as someone who is the most uber price performance guy ever. That is all there is to it, case closed!
Gambler_3
I will sleep better knowing that I won. Thanks. ;)
Actually, we already established that Gambler is the defeatist. He gave up too easy.This thread turned to crap over a simple question. Nice going guys! You're both defeatists.
SickStench
Internet is serious business. Yeah just grab two of something and call it a day, but I do think that two 6950 unlocked is a better deal.
So you upgraded from GTX 460 to 560? And you have problems paying a few bucks more for intel mobos lol??;)[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
I have a Vanilla EVGA 560 Ti, and my only complaint so far is that it runs much hotter under load than the heavily OC'd and overvolted GTX 460 that I had before. I got the 560 because I'm a GPU junky, and I had wanted a full GF104 (114)-based card since I heard that they were coming out. Plus the extra memory bandwidth that I got out of the 560's VRAM versus the 460's makes a difference with AA/AF on at 1080p (151 gb/s vs. 131). I had a good-overclocking 460 (911mhz core at 1075mV, never over 73 degrees C under full furmark/heaven torture tests), so this isn't a big step up in performance in most games. My 560 with my max stable OC is between 11-16% faster in most apps than my 460 was at max OC.
Overall it's a great card, and full capable of laying the smack down on a stock 5870/6950 with a fairly common overclock. With this OC mine has slightly more muscle in DX9/DX10 scenarios than a stock GTX 570. It will fall slightly behind in heavily-tessellated DX11 games and benchmarks, due to some design differences between GF100/110 and 104/114.
Gambler_3
You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
hartsickdiscipl
Dang Hart... Why you had to go off and drop the:
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
jedikevin2
Dang Hart... Why you had to go off and drop the:
Some people just ask for it :P :D
Factroy OC cards with custom cooling arent going for that much more and are also guaranteed to come close to that but ya I forgot there are alot of ignorant buyers around so you might have landed in a great deal.You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
hartsickdiscipl
And here you go.
You said AMD wasnt slower than core 2 quad clock for clock, I showed you otherwise. You said Q6600 wasnt slower than Q8000, once again I showed you otherwise. Now once again I found a mobo for your requirements just $30 more, why cant you come before doing your research mate?
Factroy OC cards with custom cooling arent going for that much more and are also guaranteed to come close to that but ya I forgot there are alot of ignorant buyers around so you might have landed in a great deal.[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
Gambler_3
And here you go.
You said AMD wasnt slower than core 2 quad clock for clock, I showed you otherwise. You said Q6600 wasnt slower than Q8000, once again I showed you otherwise. Now once again I found a mobo for your requirements just $30 more, why cant you come before doing your research mate?
Close, but no cigar. That board only has 2 PCI slots, and the top one can't be used with a device in the bottom PCI-E X16 slot. Definitely a nice board, but it doesn't suit my needs because of the slot spacing.
As far as the PII versus Core 2 clock for clock issue, I'll give you some credit there. Most of the core 2's are slightly faster clock for clock. It's not much of a difference, and we both know that.
On the Q8000 versus Q6600 issue, negative. You "proved" nothing. Refer to the other thread for my response on that. Common sense eludes you once again.
Factroy OC cards with custom cooling arent going for that much more and are also guaranteed to come close to that but ya I forgot there are alot of ignorant buyers around so you might have landed in a great deal.[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
You don't know how much I was able to sell my 460 for, especially since I could guarantee that it would OC to 911 core ;) Not to mention the fact that my CPU isn't holding my system back at all. A GPU upgrade is almost always a smarter way to spend money in a gaming PC.
As far as paying more for an Intel mobo, it's more than a few bucks. My AM3 mobo is full-ATX length, has 4 DDR3-1600 slots, supports 140 watt CPUs, has 3 PCI slots, 2 full-length PCI-E's. It was $60 with free shipping. Find me an LGA 1156, 1366, or 1155 mobo within 20-30 bucks with those features. Then add on the extra cost for the CPU itself.
hartsickdiscipl
And here you go.
You said AMD wasnt slower than core 2 quad clock for clock, I showed you otherwise. You said Q6600 wasnt slower than Q8000, once again I showed you otherwise. Now once again I found a mobo for your requirements just $30 more, why cant you come before doing your research mate?
Close, but no cigar. That board only has 2 PCI slots, and the top one can't be used with a device in the bottom PCI-E X16 slot. Definitely a nice board, but it doesn't suit my needs because of the slot spacing.
As far as the PII versus Core 2 clock for clock issue, I'll give you some credit there. Most of the core 2's are slightly faster clock for clock. It's not much of a difference, and we both know that.
On the Q8000 versus Q6600 issue, negative. You "proved" nothing. Refer to the other thread for my response on that. Common sense eludes you once again.
Thank you for accepting where things must be accepted, we can have better discussions this way.:)Out of curiosty why do you need those PCI slots?
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Factroy OC cards with custom cooling arent going for that much more and are also guaranteed to come close to that but ya I forgot there are alot of ignorant buyers around so you might have landed in a great deal.
And here you go.
You said AMD wasnt slower than core 2 quad clock for clock, I showed you otherwise. You said Q6600 wasnt slower than Q8000, once again I showed you otherwise. Now once again I found a mobo for your requirements just $30 more, why cant you come before doing your research mate?
Gambler_3
Close, but no cigar. That board only has 2 PCI slots, and the top one can't be used with a device in the bottom PCI-E X16 slot. Definitely a nice board, but it doesn't suit my needs because of the slot spacing.
As far as the PII versus Core 2 clock for clock issue, I'll give you some credit there. Most of the core 2's are slightly faster clock for clock. It's not much of a difference, and we both know that.
On the Q8000 versus Q6600 issue, negative. You "proved" nothing. Refer to the other thread for my response on that. Common sense eludes you once again.
Thank you for accepting where things must be accepted, we can have better discussions this way.:)Out of curiosty why do you need those PCI slots?
I use a PCI X-Fi sound card and a PCI video capture card.
In all seriousness, that's why there's a difference between pc enthusiasts and economists. Enthusiasts don't care to spend the extra change to get the features an Intel board has to offer. I've been on both sides of the fence, having just migrated from an AMD system to an intel/nvidia system. I can definitely say the extra money you pay for the intel system is not wasted. Everything works just like it's supposed to. I migrated from an AMD 965 with 2 HD5870's to an i7 980X with 3 GTX 570's. Aside from Intel boards sporting the NF 200 chip and supporting native SLI, Nvidia's drivers are far superior to AMD's when using more than 1 card. AMD's gpu line has horrible issues with microstuttering and Crossfire issues. Any GPU guru would know this.
As for the OP, if you want to know about the 560, just head over to Guru3D or youtube and search for GTX 560 reviews. It's about that simple. ;)
In all seriousness, that's why there's a difference between pc enthusiasts and economists. Enthusiasts don't care to spend the extra change to get the features an Intel board has to offer. I've been on both sides of the fence, having just migrated from an AMD system to an intel/nvidia system. I can definitely say the extra money you pay for the intel system is not wasted. Everything works just like it's supposed to. I migrated from an AMD 965 with 2 HD5870's to an i7 980X with 3 GTX 570's. Aside from Intel boards sporting the NF 200 chip and supporting native SLI, Nvidia's drivers are far superior to AMD's when using more than 1 card. AMD's gpu line has horrible issues with microstuttering and Crossfire issues. Any GPU guru would know this.
As for the OP, if you want to know about the 560, just head over to Guru3D or youtube and search for GTX 560 reviews. It's about that simple. ;)
Dirky17
Any "GPU guru" would know that this info is very outdated.
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