GTX 600 series and HD7000 series. Release dates?

Is there any release date for the GTX 600 series or HD7000 series yet?

I'm going to be building a new i7 based system sometime before the end of the year. Might keep hold of my HD 4890 for a little while and wait for the new cards to be released.

Is there any release date for the GTX 600 series or HD7000 series yet?

I'm going to be building a new i7 based system sometime before the end of the year. Might keep hold of my HD 4890 for a little while and wait for the new cards to be released.

dbowman

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Is there any release date for the GTX 600 series or HD7000 series yet?

I'm going to be building a new i7 based system sometime before the end of the year. Might keep hold of my HD 4890 for a little while and wait for the new cards to be released.

04dcarraher

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dbowman"]

Is there any release date for the GTX 600 series or HD7000 series yet?

I'm going to be building a new i7 based system sometime before the end of the year. Might keep hold of my HD 4890 for a little while and wait for the new cards to be released.

Whiteknight19

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dbowman"]

Is there any release date for the GTX 600 series or HD7000 series yet?

I'm going to be building a new i7 based system sometime before the end of the year. Might keep hold of my HD 4890 for a little while and wait for the new cards to be released.

Whiteknight19

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Na, build a Bulldozer system instead, 7000's are coming out by the end of the year or early next year and 600's will be out I think mid next year. mitu123

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

I thought they were using FM2?

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whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

Phoenix534

I thought they were using FM2?

Answers!! Enhanced Bulldozer (Piledriver) will be using the FM2 (socket). It is confirmed! Some AMD 7000's will be out by the end of year. While others will be out in early next year. (Most likely 7700 and 7800 this year and 7900 and the lower ends, early next year). Nvidia's 600 series cards won't be out till early next year. Feb. - April 2012.ShadowDeathX

I'm not wanting to rebuke your dates, but what are they based on? Are they educated guesses, or do you have a link or something? Just asking because I will be wanting to upgrade my graphics card in the next few months from my 5870, but wanting to hold on for the next NVIDIA series.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Answers!! Enhanced Bulldozer (Piledriver) will be using the FM2 (socket). It is confirmed! Some AMD 7000's will be out by the end of year. While others will be out in early next year. (Most likely 7700 and 7800 this year and 7900 and the lower ends, early next year). Nvidia's 600 series cards won't be out till early next year. Feb. - April 2012._Matt_

I'm not wanting to rebuke your dates, but what are they based on? Are they educated guesses, or do you have a link or something? Just asking because I will be wanting to upgrade my graphics card in the next few months from my 5870, but wanting to hold on for the next NVIDIA series.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Na, build a Bulldozer system instead, 7000's are coming out by the end of the year or early next year and 600's will be out I think mid next year. mitu123

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

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whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

C_Rule

Oh great, now you've pointed that out, I laugh now too, thanks a lot!

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Na, build a Bulldozer system instead, 7000's are coming out by the end of the year or early next year and 600's will be out I think mid next year. 04dcarraher

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Whiteknight19"]

whats the point of getting a bulldozer if its just gonna be as fast as a 2600k i would just go n get a sandybridge and wait on the ivybridge considering some motherboads is gonna be supporting ivybridge

configme

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Lets see 8>4?04dcarraher

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="configme"] Thats a pretty big facepalm comment. The amount of cores has nothing to do with how well it processes. Some i5s and most i7s beat out all phenom II x6s. Ivy Bridge will probably beat out bulldozer if Sandy Bridge-E doesn't.

Whiteknight19

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

thats why intel is smart there making there clocks faster per core y Ati is abit slow thinking more cores is gonna be faster which it wont be

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No Im talking about Bulldozers.... If the architecture and processing speed is even 25% close to the each other more cores is better in the long run. Whiteknight19

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

thats why intel is smart there making there clocks faster per core y Ati is abit slow thinking more cores is gonna be faster which it wont be

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="configme"] Thats a pretty big facepalm comment. The amount of cores has nothing to do with how well it processes. Some i5s and most i7s beat out all phenom II x6s. Ivy Bridge will probably beat out bulldozer if Sandy Bridge-E doesn't.

Whiteknight19

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="configme"] Thats a pretty big facepalm comment. The amount of cores has nothing to do with how well it processes. Some i5s and most i7s beat out all phenom II x6s. Ivy Bridge will probably beat out bulldozer if Sandy Bridge-E doesn't.

Whiteknight19

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,794274/From-Medal-of-Honor-to-Civ-5-17-Games-that-already-benefit-from-six-cores-CPUs/Practice/

If you have ever looked at your CPU usage while rendering a video you will notice the CPU usage for all 4 cores are at 100% you hadly see that while playing a game. Though Dirt 3/LP2 were using a good percentage of the CPU when I played them :P so maybe there is hope. I think these new 6 core and 8 core CUP's will be best for newer games as hopefully they will take advantage of them.

Best benchmark I could find was this http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/60

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="configme"] Thats a pretty big facepalm comment. The amount of cores has nothing to do with how well it processes. Some i5s and most i7s beat out all phenom II x6s. Ivy Bridge will probably beat out bulldozer if Sandy Bridge-E doesn't.

Whiteknight19

no not really games these days doesnt run on 6 cores what makes u think 8 is gonna make any difference? the only difference its gonna make is when it comes to decoding and encoding etc etc cos then it will utilize all 8 cores

I have been reading on some sites that the GTX600 series (Kepler) will be released Q2 next year. New architecture from nVidia. The 7900 series could be released in November. It looksl ike it will not feature XDR2 ram either, but the 7970 will be around the power of two 6870s in crossfire.

On the CPU front, Bulldozer should be out before the end of the year, but Intels X68 platforms may be out around Q1 2012.

I am in the same boat as you. I am going to be building a new setup this fall, minus a few parts (Case, PSU, HDD). I am going for a i7 2600K setup and will be selling my current parts to grab it. I need a nice gap between the cards, because I may go Quad again and dont want to run into heating issues like I had with mytwo 5970's. One of them died and its over warranty. :(

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Lets see 8>4?04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="configme"] Thats a pretty big facepalm comment. The amount of cores has nothing to do with how well it processes. Some i5s and most i7s beat out all phenom II x6s. Ivy Bridge will probably beat out bulldozer if Sandy Bridge-E doesn't.

configme

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No Im talking about Bulldozers.... If the architecture and processing speed is even 25% close to the each other more cores is better in the long run. 04dcarraher

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,837552/Bulldozer-FX-8150-Neue-Werte-plus-FX-auf-6-5-GHz-per-LN2-Launch-erst-im-Oktober-Geruecht-des-Tages/CPU/News/bildergalerie/?iid=1555077

This is coming from a dutch site thats so far tested the 8 core Bulldozer i still wait for further Reviews and they stated that SB 2600k and 2500k still beats the 8 core not only on games but a few other stuff aswell and if that is true for when the other reviews are out then SB is ur best bit

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configme

Yes it does matter how many cores a cpu has.... Even if AMD bulldozer is 25% slower per core vs Sandy Bridge cpu's both have the same two threads per core ability, 8 cores is still greater then 4. that allows better multitasking, and better future options. The point is that if a cpu is close to the performance of another and has more cores it will out do the other when the software catchs up. Its just like when dual cores and quads came out years ago and everyone was like theres no need for quads theres no point yet those people who bought quad core cpu's are still able to get full use of them and have no issues running modern games and programs while those people who had dual core's have or will move on quads or more cores.

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04dcarraher

Yes it does matter how many cores a cpu has.... Even if AMD bulldozer is 25% slower per core vs Sandy Bridge cpu's both have the same two threads per core ability, 8 cores is still greater then 4. that allows better multitasking, and better future options. The point is that if a cpu is close to the performance of another and has more cores it will out do the other when the software catchs up. Its just like when dual cores and quads came out years ago and everyone was like theres no need for quads theres no point yet those people who bought quad core cpu's are still able to get full use of them and have no issues running modern games and programs while those people who had dual core's have or will move on quads or more cores.

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[QUOTE="configme"]Doesn't matter how many cores a CPU has, It matters how much data they can process at a time. I've seen benchmarks and they aren't confirmed for real world testing. As for your i3 2100 vs 955 Phenom, they trade blows(2100 coming mostly on top)http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289.

configme

Yes it does matter how many cores a cpu has.... Even if AMD bulldozer is 25% slower per core vs Sandy Bridge cpu's both have the same two threads per core ability, 8 cores is still greater then 4. that allows better multitasking, and better future options. The point is that if a cpu is close to the performance of another and has more cores it will out do the other when the software catchs up. Its just like when dual cores and quads came out years ago and everyone was like theres no need for quads theres no point yet those people who bought quad core cpu's are still able to get full use of them and have no issues running modern games and programs while those people who had dual core's have or will move on quads or more cores.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Yes it does matter how many cores a cpu has.... Even if AMD bulldozer is 25% slower per core vs Sandy Bridge cpu's both have the same two threads per core ability, 8 cores is still greater then 4. that allows better multitasking, and better future options. The point is that if a cpu is close to the performance of another and has more cores it will out do the other when the software catchs up. Its just like when dual cores and quads came out years ago and everyone was like theres no need for quads theres no point yet those people who bought quad core cpu's are still able to get full use of them and have no issues running modern games and programs while those people who had dual core's have or will move on quads or more cores.

04dcarraher

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[QUOTE="configme"]No it doesn't, cores can do more then one thing at a time this day and age. If a single core of a bulldozer is 25% the power of a single core of a sandy bridge, then it's not going to be as powerful cause of hyper threading(which works).

configme

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] OK do the simple math here say a SB is the base line performance of 1 has 4 cores = 4, Bulldozer is .75 has 8 cores = 6, that s a big "if". that "if" BD is only 75% of SB performance wise. Chances are BD will be nearly the same or faster , I dont know where you come up with this idea or your you misunderstood of what I was saying. Now if your just comparing 4 cores vs 4 cores then you would have a wrong comparison. Its like comparing a dual core to a quad when each core performs very close to each other clock per clock.

04dcarraher