GTX 760 4GB vs GTX 770 2GB

Which of these two cards is better and more future proof for the next twelve months? I know the 770 is faster, but it has less VRAM. I'm looking to buy one of these cards soon. Also,  please specify which brand I should get the card from, since they have different stock frequencies. Furthermore, if there is an equivalent AMD card that I should consider, tell me. My goal is to max out games at 1080P at 60 fps.

770/680. Or go with something like this if you want AMD.

^You can overclock the 770 too.

Gtx 770 is only on average 10% faster then a overclocked GTX 760. So is 10% more performance base enough to spend $80-90 more and have 2gb less. 04dcarraher

^You can overclock the 770 too.

Postmortem123

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Gtx 770 is only on average 10% faster then a overclocked GTX 760. So is 10% more performance base enough to spend $80-90 more and have 2gb less. MonsieurX

ive had my evga 770 2gb sc with acx cooler for 2 months and absolutly love it compared to my old evga570 classified! it plays any game you throw at it super smooth at 1080p!!! including crysis 3! you can get 60fps if you turn all aa of... do yourself a favor and get the evga770sc w/acx its clocked at 1111mhz so ull get a fast a$$ card with a great cooler!

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Gtx 770 is only on average 10% faster then a overclocked GTX 760. So is 10% more performance base enough to spend $80-90 more and have 2gb less. 04dcarraher

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

BluRayHiDef

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

BluRayHiDef

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

BluRayHiDef

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

rogelio22

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

BluRayHiDef

[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] That you know of right now... What about future games like BF4 or any other future games that are not limited by current gen and are being based on the next set of consoles that we know are allocating upto 3gb for VRAM for some of their games. 04dcarraher

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

BluRayHiDef

At higher resolutions 7970ghz does do better because of the bus and the extra 1gb memory. Also remember the GTX 770 is just a overclocked GTX 680 for the most part. And at 1600p GTX 680 vs 7970 ghz the 7970 is on average 6% faster, while vs 770 its only 2% faster. At 1080 256bit bus does just fine allowing the GTX 680 match the 7970 and allowing the 770 to be 4% faster then 7970ghz. Like I stated before best options for you are a pre overclocked 4gb 760 or a 3gb 7970.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]wouldn't still really matter because the processing power of a single 770 wasn't able to keep up with the higher resolutions they tested with 2gb vs the 4gb... they said you would have to sli in order to get an advantage with 4gb. and since hes only gonna do 1080p and only for year! id say hell be more than ok with 2gb 770rogelio22

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Resolutions only add certain ratio to VRAM usage, higher quality textures higher,resolution,geometry higher resolution shadow maps larger game worlds are the main items that increase VRAM usage. And GTX 760 or even 770 have enough processing power to handle 4gb of memory. Skyrim heavily modded for example at 1080 using 8x AA uses 2066mb while at 1600p with 8xAA uses 2483mb.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Resolutions only add certain ratio to VRAM usage, higher quality textures higher,resolution,geometry higher resolution shadow maps larger game worlds are the main items that increase VRAM usage. And GTX 760 or even 770 have enough processing power to handle 4gb of memory. Skyrim heavily modded for example at 1080 using 8x AA uses 2066mb while at 1600p with 8xAA uses 2483mb.04dcarraher

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]yeah but i cant tell the difference with x2 aa or x8 aa @ 1080p so still think a 4gb card wouldnt be needed! who knows thow future might require more vram

Aparthide

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

tc if you really want more than 2gb get a 780 or 7970 but if your gonna be gaming for the next yr @1080p than 7702gb is more than enough

By max does that include AA?

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

BluRayHiDef

To get total bandwidth you mutliply bus width times memory speed.  So a wider bus doesn't necessarily mean the memory is faster if it is clocked lower.

Besides the speed the ram isn't always the bottle neck.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]yeah but i cant tell the difference with x2 aa or x8 aa @ 1080p so still think a 4gb card wouldnt be needed! who knows thow future might require more vram

Aparthide

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]yeah but i cant tell the difference with x2 aa or x8 aa @ 1080p so still think a 4gb card wouldnt be needed! who knows thow future might require more vram

Aparthide

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

Exactly.  

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

How about the HD 7970 with 3GB of GDDR5 and a 384 bit bus width? How does it compare the 760 and 770?

BluRayHiDef

Because AMD and Nvidia cards use completely different architectures.  Number of transistors is only a relevant point of comparison when both cards are of the same architecture.  The AMD card does have more memory bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to be a major limiting factor to the performance of the GPUs in question.  In other words, the 7970 has more bandwidth than it's GPU can really take advantage of in most games.  It's basically wasted.  

Where do you live? You might be able to do what i did and get a good deal on a 670 which is slightly faster than the 760.

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

BluRayHiDef

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Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

mitu123

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

mitu123

The fact that the minimum required is only 512 MB tells me you'll have a lot options in video settings to make sure it will run smoothly on a 2GB card. So it will probably mean that you'll want to lower AA if you don't have 3GB of vram. In the case of of the 760 4GB vs the 770 2GB I don't see how AA is meaningful enough to justify going for a slower card.

[QUOTE="Aparthide"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Games in general will become more complex as time continues to a new generation of consoles setting a new standard. We will see the demand of more then 2gb before too long if you plan on playing games with the best settings. darksusperia

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="Aparthide"]

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

Aparthide

[QUOTE="Aparthide"][QUOTE="darksusperia"] Ive seen a number of games hit 2GB VRAM usage @ 1200p. Bioshock infinite is one example.BluRayHiDef

As far as I can tell, VRAM should'nt be a determining factor. 

I'm getting an MSI Lightning withhin the next two weeks and I chose that over all the others because it has a backplate and is cheaper than EVGAs backplated offering.

Vid memory won't be an issue, because it takes power to process the data. 

This:

Is still better than this:

Even if the red one has 4 gb of RAM.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="Aparthide"]

By the time games push 2gb a 760 isn't gonna cut it anymore. Crysis 3 does indeed use 2.2gb at 1200p 8x msaa but even a titan can't handly that. So in my opinion 4gb on a card like the 760 is a waste of money. Besides the average game nowadays hovers around 1gb at 1080p. Most people overestimate vram usage.

Aparthide

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Damn. This is such a hard choice. I fear that though the 770 is faster, perhaps it won't have enough memory for BF4. Maybe I should wait until BF4 is released and then view some benchmarks for it.

mitu123

It doesn't seem like they put a lot of thought into these system requirements.  That is, unless someone has a 3GB 7870.  It makes no sense to list the 7870 as a recommended GPU, and then list the recommended VRAM as a size that you can't even get that card with.  

This is why I always laugh when us PC gamers brag about Ultra settings on PC vs Medium on Consoles. The difference is not even noticeable 99% of the time.m3Boarder32

Not sure if trolling, but gtfo. Bf3 64p > 24p console.

Native res 1080p with upped settings was enough to impress my friend who was just playing skyrim on his ps3. I didn't even load the mods in yet plus the load times is already better on a crappy old wd green drive external.

@Bluray, get the 7970 3gb and oc it or wait.

edit: Yeah I am not going trust the requirements. Multiplayer is always a different beast to handle, and the dlcs down the road maybe more demanding.

[QUOTE="Aparthide"][QUOTE="darksusperia"] Ive seen a number of games hit 2GB VRAM usage @ 1200p. Bioshock infinite is one example.m3Boarder32

Trololololol