Guild Wars! Has it changed?

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#1 Skullheart
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I've only played Guild Wars 1, and I remember having a lot of fun playing it with my best bud. Although there wasn't much content in the game. Has it changed at all since I've played (which was some time last year)? This of course, including Factions and Nightfall. Tell me a bit about it please.

And if you are a Guild Wars hater or you dislike it for one reason or another, please explain why in an intelligent way...thanks!

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#2 thanatose
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I had gotten fed up with Guild Wars Prophesies and stopped playing for a while. I however recently picked up Nightfall and have had a lot of fun with it. It is worth cheking it out even if you only pick up Nightfall and not Factions.
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#3 Skullheart
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I had gotten fed up with Guild Wars Prophesies and stopped playing for a while. I however recently picked up Nightfall and have had a lot of fun with it. It is worth cheking it out even if you only pick up Nightfall and not Factions.thanatose

Well, I've been playing WoW on and off for over 3 years. I'm quite bored with it. How much has Guild Wars changed (in a nutshell)? 

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#4 basilbasil
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I started with Nightfall, then got factions, then prophecies. It hasn't changed a huge amount, but it has added a huge amount more. You have no need to worry if it's content you need. There are now heroes who you take with you on your adventures and who level up with you, there a regular events, and with all the content from the 3 games being transferred between lands (Tyria, Cantha and Elona) there is always something new. Get playing it now, man! Oo, and if you need a fun, friendly guild, try and contact someone in MaD.:D
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#5 basilbasil
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Btw, that is just a nutshell. There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE amount more stuff!
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#6 Gordon_Slaveman
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Plus the new Expansion is gonna be sick!!!
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#7 Skullheart
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So it is honestly worth picking up? I remember me and my buddy playing that game and dominated in PvP, but that wasn't the end-game PvP. And yes, content is all I will need. I just don't want to get to the max level (like in World of Warcraft) and have nothing to do. You can garantee there would be something for me to do in the game?

Mainly, I want instant PvP action whenever I want it. In WoW, I have to wait at least 5 minutes to enter a battlegrounds match that's about to end. Also, the PvP in Guild Wars seems more balanced than it ever did in World of Warcraft...not as gear-based.  If I remember right, I was able to get that instant PvP access whenever the heck I wanted it. Not only that, but like I said...it's GOOD pvp. Very balanced and much more strategic than most MMORPGs. I have never understood why people hate it the way they do. 

So, would you mind listing (or would someone mind listing) some of the "stuff" that has been added so far (content)? 

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#8 Blindside46
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I remember in the PVP my friend and I got to the bright battle stage arena place. Looked nice. I have over 200 hours of gameplay in Guild wars, just some of that was recorded with xfire. I was really addicted to the first Guild Wars and stopped playing last summer cause it was very repetitive. Got to the second to the last level and couldn't beat it, nobody could build a good party, we always got to the end of it and people always died. Good game, was pretty addicted to it, not anymore.
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#9 aura_enchanted
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personnally i think that for all the new content you get nothing is more welcome than the storage expansion, and the build template saving, my verdict on the hallalujia! the new continents do bring a lot more to your game that is expected (armor, weapons, skills, etc.) the new professions are pretty cool (long live dervish! :D). the have been trying to boost the potency of mesmers and rangers as effective PvE party members though they are still rare to find. Assassins dont suck as much as the once did so now the sin community is divided between the have's and the have not's in terms of usefulness. there are now a second set of mini-pets for your second account birthday ( young gwen, bladed aatxe, mini-elf, scorpion, litch lord, harpy, water djinn, koss, palawa joko, fire imp, heket warrior, juggernaught, thorn wolf, mandragor imp, and wind rider), which are very cool in their own way. the lich lord is still arguably the best boss of the 3 campaigns, and many of the items once farmed like mad (greens, and rare skins mostly) have been made rarer to find so gl farming those ne more. playing with buddies who now have new camapaigns is possible although you can and probably will be left behind as they zip on ahead with new skills and better management of the old ones. thats about it...

 this si a small sample of the changes made but hopefully someone will mention the rest.

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I think gw are the biggest liars in histroy. When they first promoted this game they called it cooperative rpg lol what a joke. The game is nothing more than a pvp game. No one wants to play their pvp, who wants to play rude people. I think gw is the biggest joke out of all the other mmos. Anet devs treat their pvers like garbage. I stoped playing when factions came out. I heared from a friend that they made fow open to their pvpers. Anet nerfs the skills center around pvp rendering classies broken and useless. even to the point of destorying the pve. Who wants to buy games from game devs that lie so much.
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I think gw are the biggest liars in histroy. When they first promoted this game they called it cooperative rpg lol what a joke. The game is nothing more than a pvp game. No one wants to play their pvp, who wants to play rude people. I think gw is the biggest joke out of all the other mmos. Anet devs treat their pvers like garbage. I stoped playing when factions came out. I heared from a friend that they made fow open to their pvpers. Anet nerfs the skills center around pvp rendering classies broken and useless. even to the point of destorying the pve. Who wants to buy games from game devs that lie so much.blackdreamhunk

Bitter, are we?

I been playing over a year, and still enjoy playing this game.

Rude ppl? And so I guess you are going to tell me that other MMO's have no rude people? Cmon man, get real. Although I have ran accross a few jerks, I have meet some really cool people to play with. You cant blame a game for the way that individuals choose to act while play said game.

Anyways,

I love Guild Wars (as many here already know) and I plan to continue playing. EOTN and GW2 are must-haves on my gaming list.

So yes get Guild Wars! Most definately!

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I think gw are the biggest liars in histroy. When they first promoted this game they called it cooperative rpg lol what a joke. The game is nothing more than a pvp game. No one wants to play their pvp, who wants to play rude people. I think gw is the biggest joke out of all the other mmos. Anet devs treat their pvers like garbage. I stoped playing when factions came out. I heared from a friend that they made fow open to their pvpers. Anet nerfs the skills center around pvp rendering classies broken and useless. even to the point of destorying the pve. Who wants to buy games from game devs that lie so much.blackdreamhunk

Actually, GW was originally marketed as the MMO without any fees. The only problem with that is that GW is NOT an MMO, which is blatantly obvious as soon as you start the game if you know what a real MMO is. That said, of course it's a joke compared to other MMO's, because it's not what they are. GW is just a regular ORPG that Arena.net tried to give a fancy title to and failed, because whose ever marketing department was in charge of marketing the game (be it NC Soft their publisher, or Arena.net themselves) sucks and should be grateful they aren't out of a job after the horrific mess they have made. As far as the "nerfs" go, Guild War is about balance. At it's core the game is nothing more than rock paper scissors with the different classes. Paper covers rock, rock breaks scissors, scissors cut paper. That's all it is. So, of course someone playing your anti build will destroy you before you know what has happened, because that is how the game works. However, the scenario works in your favor as well if you go up against someone who is playinga build your build is designed to destroy.

 

Anyway back to the TC: Yes Guild Wars has changed. The Hero system is probably the biggest change and is a welcome addition to the game. It's really sweet having fully customizeable henches and then using the new semi RTS style features to tell them where to go etc. If you go back to Guild Wars pick up Nightfall since that has the Hero's in it. It's also got the best PVE and story of the three games. However, it was rushed and did ship unfinished. To the best of my knowledge Arena.net never got around to implementing everything that didn't make it to retail in their patch around mid December. As far as factions goes, the new classes aside, the only new feature it introduces is rep grinding, which isn't fun. Only get Factions if you have finished the other GW games and still want more, because it's the worst of the three. Design wise it's just one big cluster f**k, the PVE is horribly restrictive, and factions story is laughably bad.

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The new Guild Wars with the expansion will be very similar to the original release in the way of gameplay and character interaction. Guild Wars is somewhat simplified compared to its competition online, but it still has much value. I would recommend picking up the expansions of you are bored of WoW. I was tired of WoW and bought both expansions as well (after not touching GW since I beat the game a long time ago). The expansion has beautiful graphics and some cool fixes that make the game feel a bit better than the first release (refer to reviews for more details). If you are like me, then you will probably buy the expansions, finish them and then let them lie in peace while playing new games. I'd say Guild Wars expansions are worth picking up to explore the new content. As you probably know the graphics in Guild Wars are absolutely stunning for an online game. If you have a powerful enough system to truly enjoy the world in all its glory then go for it and pick up the expansions. I really Guild Wars: Nightfall and Guild Wars: Factions, and I am also a hardcore WoW player. The slightly simplified spells, quests, interface and interaction provide a delightful alternative to playing WoW.

Just a final thought: The people you will be playing with online are pretty much the same as before. Just join a good guild and be careful of pick up groups as you should be with all games.

Happy Gaming!

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#14 Skullheart
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Well I guess I could care less about PvE content and ... well, anything associated with PvE. All I care about for online games, and all I have ever cared about for online games is PvP. I'm not going to buy the expansions unless it's absolutely worth it and I won't be disappointed PvP wise.

To be honest, I've always been in multiplayer in FPS games, but I'm getting sick of Call of Duty and I'm having trouble finding a good FPS to play with a good multiplayer.

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I remember in the PVP my friend and I got to the bright battle stage arena place. Looked nice. I have over 200 hours of gameplay in Guild wars, just some of that was recorded with xfire. I was really addicted to the first Guild Wars and stopped playing last summer cause it was very repetitive. Got to the second to the last level and couldn't beat it, nobody could build a good party, we always got to the end of it and people always died. Good game, was pretty addicted to it, not anymore.Blindside46

 

I got it at Xmas, have almost 600 hours now. :D 

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yes
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#17 Skamiplan
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i have it almost 2 years and i played it almost ingame 2000 hours and sometimes i just need a break of about 2-4 weeks before i can get back in the game :P
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Go read some of the updates at GuilWiki. They've done a lot to the game. All armors have inscription slots in them now (allowing for greater customization), there is a loot scalling mechanic which gives better loot (on average), many of the skills have been tweaked to better balance the game, and the introduction of heroes in Nightfall is a great move. Also, if you thought the game was too easy before, give Hard Mode a try! (muah hahahaha!)

 

I'd say, go ahead and get Nightfall and see what you've been missing. (BTW, many of the updates, such as the inscriptions and lockpicks are available to all campaigns. So you can inscribe your armor even if you only have Prophecies) Also, GW:Eyes of the North (aka GWEN, remember Gwen? Supposedly she's making a reappearance) will add even more content. More weapons, skills, items, 4 new armors for each class, new multi-level dungeons loaded with great loot, new enemies, and there will be new regions to explore (such as the Charr's homeland). The only thing they won't be adding is new professions, which is fine by me. they have 10 already and I don't really think they need to add any more.

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#19 Skullheart
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Go read some of the updates at GuilWiki. They've done a lot to the game. All armors have inscription slots in them now (allowing for greater customization), there is a loot scalling mechanic which gives better loot (on average), many of the skills have been tweaked to better balance the game, and the introduction of heroes in Nightfall is a great move. Also, if you thought the game was too easy before, give Hard Mode a try! (muah hahahaha!)

 

I'd say, go ahead and get Nightfall and see what you've been missing. (BTW, many of the updates, such as the inscriptions and lockpicks are available to all campaigns. So you can inscribe your armor even if you only have Prophecies) Also, GW:Eyes of the North (aka GWEN, remember Gwen? Supposedly she's making a reappearance) will add even more content. More weapons, skills, items, 4 new armors for each class, new multi-level dungeons loaded with great loot, new enemies, and there will be new regions to explore (such as the Charr's homeland). The only thing they won't be adding is new professions, which is fine by me. they have 10 already and I don't really think they need to add any more.

BewilderedRonin

lol god, Gwen was annoying. But mainly, I'm just interested in PvP. Obviously, PvE has to be good to keep you interested through those levels, but what has changed in PvP (sorry if I'm a nubcake and I didn't read someone's earlier post on PvP)? 

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u may want to wait for Hellgate:London. As for GW i thought it was decent but not enough content.
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#21 Skullheart
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Is Hellgate going to be online?
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Is Hellgate going to be online?Skullheart

of course. Its made by the same people who did diablo 1 and 2. 

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Yes, it has grown quite a bit from the early days.....

In the last year or so alone, there have been these changes:

  • more new explorable areas in Tyria
  • much more space for your items and crafting materials
  • Hard Mode was added, giving huge amounts of Gold/Experience for beating Missions (and Bonuses) and/or Vanquishing areas (my Mesmer is Guardian of Tyria :) )
  • Tomes (for Elite and Normal skills) drop in Hard Mode to allow you to get skills you unlocked in PvP.
  • Nightfall introduces Heroes to allow you more options with PvE, they are far superior to henchmen
  • Dyes are much more vibrant now, and characters can look much more varied. White dye was added.

Theres alot of other stuff but bottom line is its the best time to join in.

 

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So it is honestly worth picking up? I remember me and my buddy playing that game and dominated in PvP, but that wasn't the end-game PvP. And yes, content is all I will need. I just don't want to get to the max level (like in World of Warcraft) and have nothing to do. You can garantee there would be something for me to do in the game?

Mainly, I want instant PvP action whenever I want it. In WoW, I have to wait at least 5 minutes to enter a battlegrounds match that's about to end. Also, the PvP in Guild Wars seems more balanced than it ever did in World of Warcraft...not as gear-based. If I remember right, I was able to get that instant PvP access whenever the heck I wanted it. Not only that, but like I said...it's GOOD pvp. Very balanced and much more strategic than most MMORPGs. I have never understood why people hate it the way they do.

So, would you mind listing (or would someone mind listing) some of the "stuff" that has been added so far (content)?

Skullheart

 

Buy the PVP edition of GW Nightfall. You automatically get a max lvl char of your choice with all skills and weapons unlocked.Â