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#1 MEOWWW123
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246873.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;2

Rumors that Episode 3 wont even be released this year :(

Would you guys rather wait a year for Episode 3 or Wait 2-3 more years for a completley new HL3?

I personally would go for a new HL3

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#2 ProudLarry
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Valve has already said that any "Half-Life 3" would probably start a new plot narrative. So we still need to wait on Ep3 to wrap up things from the Half-Life 2 plot.

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#3 millerlight89
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I really don't care about Episode 3 anymore. All I want from the HL universe is Black Mesa. I can not wait for that Game/Mod.
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#4 Sparticus247
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It better be a whole HL3...we've waited too long just to have a 5-8 hour game being added on at this point. Valve has missed the point of creating episodic content. Will it be good? Oh yeah for sure, valve makes great things....but it better be more than what episode 1 and 2 were.

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#5 fatcat13sep
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half life 3 so we can have a new source engine that actually uses the full capabilities of a hd 5970

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#6 Sparticus247
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I really don't care about Episode 3 anymore. All I want from the HL universe is Black Mesa. I can not wait for that Game/Mod.millerlight89

Yeah, that's going to be awesome. No one really knows when it is coming out though. They were shooting for the end of 2009 and that came and went, I'm hoping to see it by this summer.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I really don't care about Episode 3 anymore. All I want from the HL universe is Black Mesa. I can not wait for that Game/Mod.Sparticus247

Yeah, that's going to be awesome. No one really knows when it is coming out though. They were shooting for the end of 2009 and that came and went, I'm hoping to see it by this summer.

Yea it will be awesome, well I hope. As I have said I try not to hype too much anymore. I don't mind waiting a little longer if it means a more polished game.
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#8 MEOWWW123
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How does Black Mesa differ from Half Life Source?

Edit: NVM lol just looked at the trailer

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#9 millerlight89
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half life 3 so we can have a new source engine that actually uses the full capabilities of a hd 5970

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The 5970 would have to become more available first LOL. Though I would like to see a new source engine. Though I still think the first is great tbh.
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#10 millerlight89
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How does Black Mesa differ from Half Life Source?

MEOWWW123

Here is a link. If you can not tell the difference after this then you need glasses my friend lol.

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#11 MEOWWW123
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Yup haha just watched the trailer it looks sick

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#12 millerlight89
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Yup haha just watched the trailer it looks sick

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Yes it does. I would be willing to give them money if it ends up being great.
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#13 MEOWWW123
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Me too man

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#14 F1_2004
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So wtf are they actually doing for so long? The HL2 episodes aren't good enough to warrant spending so much time on.
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#15 Sparticus247
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So wtf are they actually doing for so long? The HL2 episodes aren't good enough to warrant spending so much time on.F1_2004

Well they worked on Episode 1 and two and the same time, and spent extra time polishing EP2 and adding new stuff in it. Since then They've been making new games, so it's not like they haven't been doing anything all this time. They've put some nice games out....but this HL2 break is annoying.

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#16 millerlight89
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So wtf are they actually doing for so long? The HL2 episodes aren't good enough to warrant spending so much time on.F1_2004
You also have to remember that they only have around 250 people at in that company.
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#17 Qixote
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The news wouldn't be so disappointing if they at least had accompanying screens or evidence of progress to give us a peak. But we got nothing. We can only assume at this point that they have not done anything with the HL saga ever since they've been playing around with L4D.

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#18 Wiipimp32
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i know. that mod is taking forever tho@!

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#19 dakan45
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Valve has lost the point of episodic gaming. Every developer can release a brand new game in the 2 years period they needed for the episodes. So episode 3 can might as well dissapear and make a half life 3 instead....in 8 years :lol:
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#20 rzepak
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I dont understand this whole excitment over this news. Valve is like Blizzard. Both companies take a long time to make a game. Hl2 was in development for 5 years.

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#21 millerlight89
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I dont understand this whole excitment over this news. Valve is like Blizzard. Both companies take a long time to make a game. Hl2 was in development for 5 years.

rzepak
HL2 was also a whole new game, not an episode. So I can understand people getting upset about the wait.
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#22 rzepak
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

I dont understand this whole excitment over this news. Valve is like Blizzard. Both companies take a long time to make a game. Hl2 was in development for 5 years.

millerlight89

HL2 was also a whole new game, not an episode. So I can understand people getting upset about the wait.

Pretty sure if Ep3 will come out it will actually be a full fledged game. Valve isnt stupid.

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#23 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="rzepak"]

I dont understand this whole excitment over this news. Valve is like Blizzard. Both companies take a long time to make a game. Hl2 was in development for 5 years.

rzepak

HL2 was also a whole new game, not an episode. So I can understand people getting upset about the wait.

Pretty sure if Ep3 will come out it will actually be a full fledged game. Valve isnt stupid.

Ok then so no need to get upset if it a full game. They are a smaller company and have been releasing other games. They are great, but not miracle workers.
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#24 shahabzelda
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That was the worst news i've heard in last few months that HL E3 won't be released in 2010!!!

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#25 millerlight89
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That was the worst news i've heard in last few months that HL E3 won't be released in 2010!!!

shahabzelda
It s not great news, but look at the games coming out in just the first few months of the year. Imo Episode 3 not coming this year makes no difference.
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#26 rzepak
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[QUOTE="rzepak"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] HL2 was also a whole new game, not an episode. So I can understand people getting upset about the wait.millerlight89

Pretty sure if Ep3 will come out it will actually be a full fledged game. Valve isnt stupid.

Ok then so no need to get upset if it a full game. They are a smaller company and have been releasing other games. They are great, but not miracle workers.

It is true that Valve isnt the biggest company out there, but I do think they are very well organized. L4D is a different team than the TF2 one and Its a given that HL and CS haave their own dedicated teams too.

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#27 Ondoval
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The point of providing new stuff in the shape of episodic contents instead of full games or expansions was to be cost cutting with the time and budget spent with the development, since the tech was already done.

But they shiped HL-2 at the end of 2004, and since then their episodic contents were 2 games of the half size of HL-2 deployed in a 5 years period. Of course they shiped more games, as L4D & L4D2 (but was initially a external work until they hired the modders involved in the saga) and TF2 and Portal, but Portal was a small project.

So, they didn't want to spent too much time or money in a whole new Half-Life 3 and they start Episode 1 and 2, but at the end this is consuming as time and maybe resources as a whole new game.

I liked more the id Software pattern: they shiped Doom 3 in the same year, then hired Nerve to do The Resurrection Of Evil expansion, then did support the Raven developement of Quake 4, and finally after 6 years will ship a entire new game (Rage) under a entirely new engine (id Tech 5).

IMO Valve is with Steam under the same problem as Blizzard with WoW: they are making so much money with "their new toy" to keep the mind focused in their main franchise.

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#28 Immortalica
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I want the conclusion to HL2 before even discussing HL3. If they're going to take this long to make Episode 3, it better be damn good.
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#29 millerlight89
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I want the conclusion to HL2 before even discussing HL3. If they're going to take this long to make Episode 3, it better be damn good.Immortalica
I have a feeling it will be good. I am not worried about that one bit.
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#30 Immortalica
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[QUOTE="Immortalica"]I want the conclusion to HL2 before even discussing HL3. If they're going to take this long to make Episode 3, it better be damn good.millerlight89
I have a feeling it will be good. I am not worried about that one bit.

I don't doubt it either, Valve is quality.
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#31 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Immortalica"]I want the conclusion to HL2 before even discussing HL3. If they're going to take this long to make Episode 3, it better be damn good.millerlight89
I have a feeling it will be good. I am not worried about that one bit.

I have a feeling that when it FINALLY comes out it will be just an episode and nothing amazing that wont justify the wait.
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#32 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Immortalica"]I want the conclusion to HL2 before even discussing HL3. If they're going to take this long to make Episode 3, it better be damn good.dakan45
I have a feeling it will be good. I am not worried about that one bit.

I have a feeling that when it FINALLY comes out it will be just an episode and nothing amazing that wont justify the wait.

Dakan you are too negative, you gotta be optimistic LOL.
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#33 JN_Fenrir
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For the love of god, would you people stop whining? :x

It's taking a while. So what? I'd like to remind you that in the meanwhile, Valve has released a number of other truly amazing products which all of you have bought and played. It's not like they've disappeared off the radar, the game is still coming. The Half-Life series has been amazing so far, and we all know that Episode Three is going to continue that trend. So everybody just sit back, shut up, have a little patience, and play something else while you wait. It really can't be this difficult for all of you.

Jeez. :roll:

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#34 dakan45
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It's taking a while.JN_Fenrir

You call that a while? :roll:

in the meanwhile, Valve has released a number of other truly amazing productsJN_Fenrir

To what are you referring? The l4d games? They were made mostly by Turtle Rock studios and not the entire valve HQ. Also l4d took "a while" too. ;) Personally i wouldn't call that a awhile but whatever...

The Half-Life series has been amazing so far, and we all know that Episode Three is going to continue that trend.JN_Fenrir

I beg to dissagre with the amazing part, especially if you consider the fact that the episodes offer is a short compaign in a 2 years development period and pretty dated graphics and gameplay.Now that i mention gameplay, the gameplay has not evolved not even a little. Not even a new thing like a new weapon for example, and all that in 2 years period. So episode 3 is taking that long for what? Its not like they are making "crysis 2" or "Fallout 4"!!! Despite the fact they are a small studio, still they could have done much more and with many improvements in the time episodes take to be released. So if you ask me i wouldnt bet on the fact that episode 3 is gonna be that good to worth the wait!

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#35 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Episode 2 came out with Portals and Team Fortress 2.. TF2 has been getting regular updates since its release.. It is only logical that HL ep3 will be packaged with a wide variety of new stuff..
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#36 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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i am really hoping ep3 releases with a new engine and it has a decent length campaign, if valve can do that i will be happy. if not i may be taking a detour next time i am in Bellevue.
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#37 MrWednesday14
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These are just rumours. Nothing more.

Still I think it's going to be a couple years before we see Ep 3 (or HL3) or whatever the hell it is they're doing at Valve. All I know is I'm down for waiting because I know it's going to be worth it.

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Episode 2 came out with Portals and Team Fortress 2.. TF2 has been getting regular updates since its release.. It is only logical that HL ep3 will be packaged with a wide variety of new stuff.. sSubZerOo
Yeah but what episode 1 had? So i wouldnt say its logical to add more stuff in episode 3.
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#39 mrbojangles25
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did anyone expect it in 2010? Is anyone genuinely suprised?

i know I sure am not. They could say 2012 and I would go "Meh, couldnt expect anything else".

God bless Valve, but daaaammmmn do they sure take their sweet time. Ultimately, though, it will be worth it.

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#40 stupiddk
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I wouldn't mind an all new Counter Strike game with new graphics and improved AI. And a sequel to Portal.

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#41 the_mitch28
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Half-Life 3 and Source 2 sounds a lot better than episode 3..... if I'm honest.

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#42 R4gn4r0k
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Without a doubt it's going to be awesome. I just hope the game will last longer than Episode 1 & 2, that will make it worth the wait.

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[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]It's taking a while.dakan45
You call that a while? :roll:

Yes I do, sir.
[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]in the meanwhile, Valve has released a number of other truly amazing productsdakan45
To what are you referring? The l4d games? They were made mostly by Turtle Rock studios and not the entire valve HQ. Also l4d took "a while" too. ;) Personally i wouldn't call that a awhile but whatever...

Purchasing a company, integrating them into your corporation and then working with them to finish and release their product isn't exactly sitting on one's hands. Thus, Valve did a lot of work on the Left 4 Dead games. They've also been supporting Team Fortress 2 with major patches and updates, as well as continuing work on the Steam platform. And I'm no mind-reader, but something tells me they've probably been working on the next iteration of the Source engine as well. If all that's not enough for you, I don't know what else to tell you.
[QUOTE="JN_Fenrir"]The Half-Life series has been amazing so far, and we all know that Episode Three is going to continue that trend.dakan45
I beg to dissagre with the amazing part, especially if you consider the fact that the episodes offer is a short compaign in a 2 years development period and pretty dated graphics and gameplay.Now that i mention gameplay, the gameplay has not evolved not even a little. Not even a new thing like a new weapon for example, and all that in 2 years period. So episode 3 is taking that long for what? Its not like they are making "crysis 2" or "Fallout 4"!!! Despite the fact they are a small studio, still they could have done much more and with many improvements in the time episodes take to be released.

Why fix what isn't broken? At this point, the game doesn't need a new weapon, nor does it need to change its fundamental gameplay. You might not be that impressed, but Episode One and Two are really good in terms of gameplay and storytelling, and they are only meant to be a continuation of Half-Life 2 and its story, not a true sequel. Therefore, it makes perfect sense that they would look and play similarly to Half-Life 2 (and again, that's a good thing). Call the game "dated" if you want, but it's still really solid and a heck of a lot of fun to play. And again, Episode Three is taking a long time because they've been working on other projects in the meanwhile.
So if you ask me i wouldnt bet on the fact that episode 3 is gonna be that good to worth the wait!dakan45
To be fair, it doesn't seem like you were particularly thrilled with the last two episodes, so I'd say it's a safe bet that you're going to have a bone to pick no matter how the game turns out. Am I right? I actually genuinely enjoy the Half-Life series for its gameplay and its story, so the wait isn't all that bad to me. It's not like I haven't had plenty of other things to do and games to play in the past two years anyway. It would be stupid of me to sit around feeling pissed off that the new video game I want isn't out yet, or that my favorite band hasn't put out a new album yet, or that my favorite TV show is on hiatus. It's called patience, and it's a virtue.
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#45 Rickylee
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A big I told you so to all you lovers of episodic content. I didn't buy eps 1or 2 until the Orangebox came out where I concidered the price to be right. if bought new they were $20.00 each. $40.00 for an incomplete game. What a crock! And now the third installment is still way out if it comes out at all. They've had time for a whole new game by now. I saw this from the very beginning. The first $60.00 expansion.